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KL70 -> Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/17/2017 4:26:01 AM)

As it differs to financial domination, which I know has been discussed and pilloried on here ad nauseum, I'd be interested to hear people's view on women who seek a
BDSM Sugar Daddy and whether it fits into BDSM, or whether you see it as a scam.

I have no interest to engage in this myself, because a woman who wants payment to play with a guy, no matter how women who do this, try to spin and/or justify it as valid, it's no different to being a hooker and that's not what I'm seeking.




LadyPact -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/17/2017 4:52:55 AM)

I actually *don't* see it as a scam. I see it as any other activity/hard limit/ preference, or any other thing you wish to call it that other people want to engage in that you would prefer not to.

None of the big ball of kink is hinged on the importance of what you are seeking, what you think of other people's activities, or anything else. If you don't like the idea of pay to play, there's a real simple answer for that.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/17/2017 11:51:42 AM)

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who seek a BDSM Sugar Daddy and whether it fits into BDSM,

Why wouldn't it? if they are engaged in BDSM-type activities then it belongs in BDSM, what does their private financial arrangements have to do with it. Hell, my Fellas could be considered "sugar daddies" because they support me.
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or whether you see it as a scam.

How is it a scam. If she is coming through on her part of the agreement then no it isn't. If she isn't, then it is.



LTE -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/17/2017 10:27:35 PM)

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BDSM Sugar Daddy and whether it fits into BDSM, or whether you see it as a scam.


"Sugar Daddy" commonly refers to a woman scamming a man. She fakes interest in him because he has money, perhaps an expensive car, boat, coffee pot and she perceives he will allow her to use these expensive assets and even likely provide for her. So, I suspect this is the context you are using in your OP. I get it.



ReMakeYou -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 12:01:15 AM)

If she just wants a rich sugar daddy, there are more focused sites out there for them. I've seen a fair number of subs who are open to being spoiled, but nowhere near findomme levels of demanding to be spoiled.

The big thing that keeps it under control is that sugar dating involves dating. If the baby stops showing up, the sugar stops flowing. Between that and the other sites catering to people who just want sugar relationships, people into it aren't any different (or any more overrepresented) than anyone else whose tastes don't mesh with your own.



WickedsDesire -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 6:07:28 AM)

Gold diggers - they salivate over a dull penny and have effectively relabeled themselves as money grabbing, bone idle, entitled scroungers etc. Almost all do not give a flying fek who gives them what they simply care about a bag of shiny bobbles and that alone. The word tribute, and its application, still fills me with the mirth these days. They have effectively declared themselves a niche and acceptable part of whats called the lifestyle via the fulcrum of crowbar-ing themselves in.

Now, if you do a transaction to get your balls crushed - and they get stomped on thats kinda okay
if you buy them a roll of shiny tinfoil they appreciate the tinfoil and that alone. So effectively they are con merchants etc



OsideGirl -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 11:13:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: LTE

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BDSM Sugar Daddy and whether it fits into BDSM, or whether you see it as a scam.


"Sugar Daddy" commonly refers to a woman scamming a man. She fakes interest in him because he has money, perhaps an expensive car, boat, coffee pot and she perceives he will allow her to use these expensive assets and even likely provide for her. So, I suspect this is the context you are using in your OP. I get it.

And in return - he gets a "Trophy". Since both sides get something, it's not a scam.

I always think it's funny that men will judge women based on their looks, but get offended when a woman judges him his wallet. I don't advocate doing either, but it's hypocritical to be offended when it's just as shallow on both sides.




LTE -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 12:48:32 PM)

I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA. So why beat up on her for doing what she must. But the OP is not about judging but instead about using deceit for her own asset and monetary gain. I suppose it all comes down to what one means using the term "Sugar" and if the "Daddy" knows she is thinking of "Sugar" rather than "Daddy" when she thinks of him.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:22:40 PM)

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I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA.

Fuck off.
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instead about using deceit

how is it deceit if she openly states she is looking for a sugar dddy?



OsideGirl -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:24:45 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

how is it deceit if she openly states she is looking for a sugar daddy?


Exactly.



LTE -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:31:06 PM)


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ORIGINAL: OsideGirl


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

how is it deceit if she openly states she is looking for a sugar daddy?


Exactly.



Exactly. If.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:31:26 PM)

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"Sugar Daddy" commonly refers to a woman scamming a man.

no it doesn't, just the opposite in fact. With a Sugar daddy, there is no scam, the fact that it is a financial arrangement is perfectly clear right from the get go. in effect he is purchasing a private personal hooker to give him the total GFE on a long term and (usually) exclusive basis.



LTE -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:35:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA.

Fuck off.


I'm really not offended by women who judge me by my capability to be a provider. It is responsible to do so.




LTE -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 3:55:00 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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who seek a BDSM Sugar Daddy and whether it fits into BDSM,

Why wouldn't it? if they are engaged in BDSM-type activities then it belongs in BDSM, what does their private financial arrangements have to do with it. Hell, my Fellas could be considered "sugar daddies" because they support me.

in effect he is purchasing a private personal hooker to give him the total GFE on a long term and (usually) exclusive basis.


Well. Okay.



ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 5:59:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LTE


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA.

Fuck off.


I'm really not offended by women who judge me by my capability to be a provider. It is responsible to do so.



And you have missed the point. i am not surprised.



Greta75 -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 6:42:13 PM)

I will never understand why men always focus endlessly on the demographics that they do not want anything to do with.

So if OP dislike sugarbabes. Don't bother with them, don't even mention them.

Find sub women who don't need sugar.

It's like you know what? It's all about compatibility and meeting mutual needs.

A man who doesn't really want commitment, may actually choose to pay, because he wants to pay her to go away when he is done.

It makes it more transactional and less of a relationship, which is precisely what he wants. As he does not want a relationship. Or emotional connection.

Different demographic serves different needs.



OsideGirl -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/18/2017 7:41:13 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Greta75

I will never understand why men always focus endlessly on the demographics that they do not want anything to do with.



I do agree with this. It's like standing in the grocery store complaining that you don't like bananas.




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/19/2017 3:18:02 AM)

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I will never understand why men always focus endlessly on the demographics that they do not want anything to do with.

Oh that's easy. he is owed what he is interested in, and thus it is a direct insult to him if a woman is not what he is interested in.
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PeonForHer -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/19/2017 4:52:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA.

Fuck off.


TDC, I can't help thinking that by your telling LTE to 'fuck off' with his comment on women's DNA and their primal purposes, etc, that there must actually be some truth in what he says. Perhaps you're being overly resistant to ideas that oppose your own? [:)]



tamaka -> RE: Women claiming to be into BDSM, who seek a Sugar Daddy (1/19/2017 5:05:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

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I'm not offended by women judging me by my wallet because she should for primal purposes locked into her DNA.

Fuck off.


TDC, I can't help thinking that by your telling LTE to 'fuck off' with his comment on women's DNA and their primal purposes, etc, that there must actually be some truth in what he says. Perhaps you're being overly resistant to ideas that oppose your own? [:)]


I don't think the ideas oppose her own since she stated that her fellas support her.



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