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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/26/2017 12:20:17 PM   
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He weaseled out of that one seventy pages back. Apparently Coventry and London deserved to be bombed, but Dresden didn't.



thats usually what happens to bonafide military targets dipshit, the civilians at dresden were not they were illegal targets peanut brain.


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/26/2017 12:22:47 PM   
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your wonderful good guys targetted them as they fled to germany in fear of the russains,

What possible reason would germans have to fear from the Russians?












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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/26/2017 12:24:03 PM   
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the russians were really mad at them tommy boy.

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He weaseled out of that one seventy pages back. Apparently Coventry and London deserved to be bombed, but Dresden didn't.



thats usually what happens to bonafide military targets dipshit, the civilians at dresden were not they were illegal targets peanut brain.


And the civilians at Coventry and London weren't?
You've yet to show your working out on this one.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/27/2017 7:22:41 AM   
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the russians were really mad at them tommy boy.


Golly gee, what ever for?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/27/2017 8:19:11 AM   
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I am not going to argue over: 343 000 - 434, 000 nor do I see its relevance.
How many civilians did the Jew loving Nazi's kill via "strategic" air raids - for balance?

World War II casualties How many Germans were killed by Nazi Germany you dumbfuk?

Answer the fuking questions


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_casualties_in_World_War_II

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 11:19:37 AM   
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You Dumfuk, we know for a fact that not even close to 6 million jews were holocausted and you cant even find evidence of one gassed Jew! WTF!



we know for a fact that 6 million jews were not holocausted, fuck they are still in 2016 begging people to sign up because they need another 1.5 million more and if we were to look at the ones they have already most of them were never holocausted what so ever.

We do know however that well over 6 million germans were in fact victims of the zionist holocaust, when our wonderful zionist friends now in control of most gubmints targetted unarmed civilians, men women children and babies when the purposely burned them to death one city after another with no military value using phosphorous fire bombs.









Dresden: An Undisputed Holocaust

Eddy Morrison


The first wave of bombs struck at 10 PM on February 13, 1945, dropping high explosive bombs on the Old Town to blast the roofs off buildings in preparation for incendiary devices. It knocked out the air raid warning system and caused massive destruction and death. It also destroyed the fire halls and water mains.

The next wave brought the fire. It turned the Altstadt into a howling ocean of fire - 3 miles long and 2 miles wide. Air temperatures rose to 1,100 degrees Fahrenheit. Winds up to 100 mph sucked all oxygen into the center of the storm. Hundreds of thousands of people were burned alive or otherwise fell victim to this second carpet bombing, followed quickly by a third.

Thousands suffocated in cellars as the oxygen was sucked out of the bunkers and pulled toward the blaze to feed the flames. Thousands more were hurled into the air like rag dogs and sucked by the ferocious winds right into the inferno. The air suction of the fire was so strong that it uprooted trees and lifted roofs from houses miles away.

Utter panic struck the people. Horses reared and ran into the crowds. Wild animals such as lions and tigers escaped from the broken enclosures of the zoo and ran into the terrified crowds. Huge snakes slithered between the feet of the fleeing. Hospital trains, still filled with wounded soldiers from the front, were burning and tried to pull out, in the process severing limps from young children who had sought cover from the bombs underneath. Those few who managed to escape the air attack were hounded later from the air by diving planes to kill off any fleeing survivors.

This was described in one account of the bombing aftermath as

". . . scores of Mustang fighters diving low over the bodies, huddled on the banks of the Elbe, as well as on the larger lawns of the Grosse Garden, in order to shoot them up."

When all was said and done, the column of smoke could be seen 50 miles away and stood 15,000 feet high. More than three-fifths of Dresden was destroyed by bombing raids lasting more than 14 hours. This Allied air raid left 24,866 homes destroyed, eleven square miles of prime real estate and irreplaceable cultural treasures devastated, 35,000 recognizable corpses available to be identified, and hundreds of thousands of unrecognizable ones.

How many? Nobody knows for sure. Most honest estimates range from 350,000 to 500,000 dead - many of whom were liquefied into a yellied mass that melted into the asphalt of the roads or were left in piles of ashes amid a city almost totally in ashes and ruins.

One newspaper account published in a German paper, Eidgenosse, (1-3-86) lists 480,000 dead.


That count looks like this:

37,000 babies and toddlers
46,000 school age children
55,000 wounded and sick in the hospitals, including their doctors,
nurses and other personnel
12,000 rescue personnel
330,000 dead simply described as "men and women."


Just think of Hiroshima. That city's atom casualties were 71,879.

During the entire war, England suffered less than 50,000 casualties from bombings.

380 persons died in bombing raids on the British munitions and aircraft producing town of Coventry, England - a raid which was declared a "German war crime".

The clean-up crews flowing in after the Allied murderers were gone could not bury all of the dead. So they took railroad ties, made an emergency grid, piled the dead on top of each other and burned them in the open air - soldiers, young and old women, boys in short pants, girls with long braids, Red Cross nurses. Babies. While all of Germany shivered for lack of fuel, these pyres burned day and night. Even concentration camp inmates helped in this macabre ritual for weeks.

The documentation of this war crime committed by the Allies, commissioned by the Hitler government in the aftermath of the Dresden holocaust, fell into Allied hands. These mountains of dead captured in the filmed footage were later edited and spliced into Allied propaganda films about "concentration camp atrocities" and were shown to the world at large as "evidence" of Jewish dead.

Next time you see one of those pictures, think hard about the source. Remember also that those who planned and ordered these raids - and, yes, the crews who carried out these raids - were and are war criminals by anyone's definition!

Many still walk the streets of England, Canada and the United States with impunity.
They have boasted about their deeds for fifty years in your press and in their "Veterans for Foreign Wars" get-togethers.

[Mean]While the governments and the successors of these war-time governments are still combing the geriatric wards of the Allied countries for German soldiers and their comrades-in-arms who might or might not have shot some Jewish Marxist saboteur fleeing a concentration camp, or returning fire against those who attacked them from behind bushes, rocks and bridge embankments wearing civilian clothes, think about the crime of Dresden.

"Those innocents who lost their lives in Dresden were killed - not because of something they had done, but because of an accident of birth. Those who died in the Dresden Holocaust on February 13-14, 1945 were simply Germans." --Ingrid Rimland

"Even now, it would cost nothing to say 'sorry' for gratuitous sadism." --Norman Stone


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:10:23 PM   
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I know all, even the unknown.

But tell me this how many Jews died during the war?

Dumbfuk1 does dumfukcatsmcloon strike you as remotely dumb.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:12:13 PM   
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Heh what the fuk is wrong with this one?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:13:17 PM   
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approx 380 people died as a result of bombing coventry arms plants, (compared to criminal zionist targeting civilians of 55,000 to 1/2 million) and only an asshelmet like you would call that targeting civilians.



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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:19:07 PM   
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In order to understand the economic and financial situation of Germany today, one must return to the situation of Germany at the end of the Second World War. The United States saw Germany then as a competitor on the world market, one must be careful, so that it does not overtake technologically or consume too many resources. Germany was primarily interested in the US as a military base, as a money provider, as a risk insurer and as a workshop for certain products.

The second world war cost Germany about 6 million death victims, but 90 million Germans had survived. Many buildings were ruined, but thousands of companies were still there, and many companies had in time brought to safety important production goods for post-war reconstruction.

By the end of the war the suffering for the German population had by no means come to an end. Germany was so far reduced only as booty, but the actual bleeding and slaughtering began at this time - and continues to this day. It began with simple looting, and has not yet ended with the hostile company acquisitions through grasshopper funds and the US scrap real estate for German savers. After the end of the Second World War, the Allies spent all their value from Germany, all ships, airplanes and whole factories. Under the Military Law No. 52 of the Allied Military Government, the group was dismantled and dismantled directly. [1]
347,000 patents were collected from the German Patent Office in Berlin, and the New York Times proudly reported in 1947 that these were worth trillions of dollars. [2]

The "Americans" used and licensed these patents themselves.

When the "Americans" promoted Germany in 1952 with the Marshall Plan and $ 1.4 billion, they bought the German companies with the money and bought stock majorities. Even in the surrounding European countries still suffering from the war, the Americans earned many shares with the approximately $ 13 billion of Marshall Plan funding ($ 3.1 billion for England, $ 2.6 billion for France, etc.). The Russian Foreign Minister, Molotov, therefore called the Marshall Plan an instrument for enslaving Europe. It was overlapping Europe with a network of economic influence. [3]

Even in 1959, the group was dismissed and dismantled in Germany. Since then, the most important German industries have been practically dominated by "the Americans". Larger companies were allowed to resume business after the war only with a significant Allied participation. For comparison, foreign investors in Russia are largely forbidden to own more than 50 percent of a company. [4]

By 1963 "the Americans" belonged to 700 German companies, in 2004 there were already 2,600, [5] and in 2007 more than half of the DAX corporations and 20% of all German shares were foreign-owned. [6] And the takeover is still going on: the "American" KKR has just bought the German Demag, the engine manufacturer MTU and the dual system, Flowers ( the same at the HSH Nordbank and the Hypo Real Estate with Mr. Knobloch in the same Meanwhile, the British bank is going to buy Nomine, and Blackstone is looking for the waste sector.

International contracts ensure that "Americans" can acquire German companies and spend the profits "in the USA". [same thing hitler 'tried' to do with the jews]

Opel has never paid a penny or cent tax in Germany since the profits were always taken to GM "in the USA". The GM losses were, however, transferred to Germany and deducted from the tax so that German taxpayers have already paid billions to GM. [7]
(Note: GM is, of course, a Rothschild company)

In 2003 the US hedge funds came to accelerate the takeover of the company.
A lawyer in the investment sector formulated the law with a separate desk in the Treasury Department, which paved the way for the US hedge fund to enter the German market. [8th]

And it is not difficult for the US to buy companies in Germany and the whole country because their Federal Reserve Bank simply prints as much money as needed, while Germany has given its sovereignty to the European Central Bank and is not Financially against the purchase.

The complete plundering of the country was not sufficient for "the Allies" (USA, UK and France, all in Rothschild possession) after the war. All Germans should pay taxes as much as possible, and these should be paid as reparations. After the war, the "allied" (= Zionist) Control Council was responsible for setting the tax rate at the Elßholzstraße in Berlin, which was responsible for business, labor, transport, law, culture, popular education, etc. 12 disciplines.

When the Allies had "liberated" the Germans, they established in the Control Council Act of 11 February 1946 that the tax rate for income above 100,000 Reichsmark should be 95%, and 48% tax should already be paid from an income of 7,200 RM 60,000 RM already 90%. After the introduction of the DM it was up to 1951 then 95% for income over 250,000 DM a year. It was not until 1955, ten years after the end of the war, that the official rate had gradually been reduced to 63.45%, after the founding of the FRG.

In 1949, the "Victory Powers" of Germany demanded reparations worth $ 50bn plus interest. [10] It must be borne in mind that the entire budget of the Federal Republic in 1953 amounted to only DM 15 billion. An agreement was signed with Israel (obviously World War II) , one with England and the USA .

In addition, the United States had absorbed most of the reparations, although its mainland had suffered practically no damage, so they were able to pay for the liberation of Germany from the Nazis.

Konrad Adenauer and his banker Hermann J. Abs ("Jewish" Zionist and long-term head of the Deutsche Bank named Rothschild Bank) arranged a reparation agreement, the so-called London debt agreement, in London with the victorious powers of the United States and England on 27.2.1953. 65 creditor countries participated in the negotiations, 40 of them with their own delegation. The volume was DM 13.5 billion. The initial reimbursement was DM 300 million per year, and DM 500 million per year. This amount should come from foreign exchange gains in exports. Interest on the original claims of 3% was added. The countries were given debts in US dollars, the so-called Young bonds (bonds, bond bonds). Five years later (1958), Germany paid DM 765 million a year. [11] After a reunion, interest rates should be increased and young bonds from the First World War should be paid. After reunification, the FRG paid € 193 million per year. [12]

[ Perfume is that often German payments to the empire in US $ are called: of course, these payments were never accepted in $, (for Rothschild can print themselves in sufficient quantity itself and Germany could thus be rid of the already worthless paper) but In gold or DM or today in euros. ]

In Luxembourg, the "reparation agreement" with Israel was signed a year earlier, in 1952, in which the Federal Republic committed itself to the supply of goods and services worth DM 3 billion . [13]

In the case of the (Rothschild) state of Israel , however, some € 276.5 billion (or DM 500.7 billion [14]) was paid by 2005 .

All ships and dry docks of Israel, all trains, all power stations, the telephone network, and more were financed by Germany. [15] (And is currently financed by the "Deutsche Bahn" the inner-Israel tram project)

In addition, military patrol boats, submarines and sea target cartoons account for 20% of manufacturing costs, Noratlas transport aircraft, armored engines and components, target detection and control infrared devices, electronic jamming systems and sniper rifles. [16]

The Jewish Claims Commission in the US ( also a Zionist and not a "Jewish" organization ) also received $ 61.8 billion in reparation, and a further $ 14 billion is to follow. [17]

The Federal Government will also pay $ 320 million as a "help" for its work until 2018, after paying € 100 million of specific compensation claims between 2002 and 2008, for the synagogues destroyed during the war.

In addition, the Cabinet decided in November 1978 to allow Israelis to "on one-time terms" and to re-enter the German pension funds until 1956. [18] The Israelis who were persecuted at the time of war by the Naziregime or their descendants have since then received from Germany about € 800 per month, so-called "Lebensschadensrenten" of an average of 82-88 billion DM . [19] Remembrance, responsibility, future "paid DM 10 billion to former forced laborers in the short term, and once again made a donation of € 25.5 million in 2004, this time for victims of medical tests.

Wolfgang Thierse offered 400,000 € for the hiking exhibition "Crimes of the Wehrmacht" [20]

The Berlin Holocaust Giant Memorial costs him € 2 million annually, and in 2006 he increased the amount again by € 355,000. [21]

In 2007, the groundbreaking ceremony for the Nazi Museum "Topography of Terror" took place for € 60 million, and in 2009 he donated € 60 million to the Polish Auschwitz Museum. [22] And after his success with the money for forced laborers and the lost insurance policies, the New York attorney Ed Fagan in 2004 already presented a demand for stolen Nazi art in the amount of 1.25 billion US $ and in 2005 demanded a claim to the Federal Government on unpaid gold funds From the year 1920 in the amount of $ 57 billion. [23] [24]

What is still to be attributed to Germany can also be seen in the fact that the Israeli government commissioned a study in 2005 to determine the financial loss of the Holocaust for the Jews . It was assumed that 9 million Jews were expropriated and their "loss of earnings" was calculated. The "government" report concludes that the loss would be between $ 240 billion and $ 330 billion , and it is said that Germany had got off so cheaply. [25]

In any case, health damage has not yet been included.
The higher value is thus allocated to each of the nine million Jews a fortune of $ 39,000. Refined to 80 million Germans who are supposed to replace this, the $ 3,000 per person, which would cost such a reparation, however, in the case of today's under German assets, the poorer 30 million Germans would cost their entire savings . This list also does not take account of the fact that the Jewish communities in Germany are financed by German taxpayers. Hamburg, for example, pays 850,000 euros annually to the local Jewish community with its 3,100 members. [26]


Calculated on the 86,000 taxpayers organized in Germany in these municipalities. [27] And the losses by the further Ongoing expropriations of German homeowners have not yet been taken into account.

Since today it is assumed that all sales of Jewish property at the Nazzeit were illegal, Jews now receive everything they sold at that time free of charge.

Those from the German post-war generation, who inherited a house that was once Jewish-owned, must give it to the Jewish Claims Commission without compensation, even after 2005. Not enough, for four years, for example, that a house as a legacy of the Parents were in possession of a German, the Jewish Claims Commission would be paid an additional € 100,000.

No wonder the number of millionaires in Israel is already well above the world average. In 2005 alone, the number of Israeli millionaires increased by 20% to 7,400. [28] After the Nazi leadership wreaks havoc, liberates people and plunder the country, it remains to be noted that today in Germany an innocent new generation is imprisoned with immense punishments.

Other countries also receive payments. Apart from the fact that after the war Poland received the Silesian territories and all the land on the other side of the Oder, the state was recently given € 2 billion and € 3.3 billion of debts. Between 2007 and 2010 Poland received € 16.6 billion of EU funds from Germany. [29]

As it appears, never in the history of mankind has a nation paid to other peoples as much as the Germans.

-to be continued-

[1]
[2] New York Times issue of 30.11.1947.
[3] Karlheinz Deschner: The Moloch, a critical history of the USA, Heyne, Munich, 6th ed. 1999, p. 273.
[4] Irina Wolkowa: 42 strategic sectors. New Germany, 5.4.2008.
[5] Werner Rügerner: Destruction Investments. Young World, 17.4.2004
[6] For the first time, foreign investors are holding a majority share of DAX companies , http://www.welt.de, 17.12.2007.
[7] Affair Opel. Http://www.mmnews.de/ , 7.3.2009.
[8] Sascha Adamek and Kim Otto: The bought state. Kiepenheuer & Witsch, 2008.
[9] Ralf Küttelwesch: The Morgenthaus Schatten, Preußische Allgemeine Zeitung, 51/52, 2003.
[10] BWL-Bote, 29.01.2002, http://www.bwl-bote.de
[11] Prof. Dr. Eckhardt Wanner: 55 years of London debt agreements - the end of a historic financial miser. Http://www.die-bank.de , 03 / March 2008.
[12] Stephan Dörner: The long shadow of Versailles. Http://www.rp-online.de/ , 3.12.2009.
[13] Ulrich W. Sahm: Stolen Jewish Property, http://www.hagalil.com , 04/2005.
[14] http://www.pol-ag.de/html/wiedergutmachung.html
[15] Nana Sagi: Redress for Israel. The German payments and services. Stuttgart, 1981, p. 208.
[16] See article by Orfried Nassauer from 11.10.2006.
[17] Ofer Aderet: Germany is considering investigations against the Claims Conference. Http: //www.hagalil.com, 16.06.2008 .
[18] Ronald Schröder: Is our system from collapse? Prussian General Newspaper, 29.11.2003.
[19] According to a statement by Charles Biedermann, head of the archive of the search service of the Red Cross in Arolsen
[20] Wehrmacht show with taxpayers, Preußische Allgemeine Zeitung, 21.2.2004.
[21] More money from the Bund for Holocaust memorial. The Märkische Oderzeitung, 10.11.2006.
[22] Auschwitz theft only PR campaign? Http://polskaweb.eu/ , 6.1.2010.
[23] Some German Bond Owners Want Money. Associated Press, April 19, 2005.
[24] Benedict Fehr: The dispute over German gold bonds continues. Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, 17.11.2006.
[25] Israel sets Holocaust Damage at $ 240 trillion. Associated Press, April 21, 2005.
[26] The city concludes a government contract with the Jewish community. Http://www.abendblatt.de , 21.06.2007.
[27] http://www.hagalil.com
[28] Above average, many Israeli millionaires. Http://www.israelnetz.de , 22.06.2006.
[29] Cold war between Germany and Poland. Http://www.merkur-online.de 8.9.2006



9 million Jews!


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:23:32 PM   
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My figures are on the record on this thread many times over. I await yours? Answer the fuking questions.

Was Dresden a war crime - absolutely - that was about 25 000 in 1-2 weeks V 60 000 UK jackals civilians taken out by Germany - must be tempered with Nazi Germany total bombed the fuk out off everyone else civilians - so how many did Nazi Germany take out - don’t count the Jews if it makes you feel better

heh dumbfuk1 what was the V2 or a Heavy water plant? And their purposes?

I totally get that the Allies are not the "good" guys but that other side were far, far worse – for logic reasons I will omit Americans.

i also understand few "allies" understood what happened in Dresden, even now - but it was 40-100 million deaths that whole war and the Russians were hmmm - worst of all - then the jew loving Germans - then the japs-then the Americans


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 12:38:13 PM   
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WRONG, it was 25000 IDENTIFIABLE bodies.

Typical fucking zionists sweeping UK+US atrocities under the carpet


German paper, Eidgenossen, (1-3-86) lists 480,000 dead. That count looks like this:

37,000 babies and toddlers
46,000 school age children
55,000 wounded and sick in the hospitals, including their doctors,
nurses and other personnel
12,000 rescue personnel
330,000 dead simply described as "men and women."


Thousands suffocated in cellars as the oxygen was sucked out of the bunkers and pulled toward the blaze to feed the flames. Thousands more were hurled into the air like rag dogs and sucked by the ferocious winds right into the inferno. The air suction of the fire was so strong that it uprooted trees and lifted roofs from houses miles away.


Victor Gregg, a British para captured at Arnhem, was a prisoner of war in Dresden that night who was ordered to help with the clear up. In a 2014 BBC interview he recalled the hunt for survivors after the apocalyptic firestorm.

In one incident, it took his team seven hours to get into a 1,000-person air-raid shelter in the Altstadt. Once inside, they found no survivors or corpses: just a green-brown liquid with bones sticking out of it. The people had all melted. In areas further from the town centre there were legions of adults shrivelled to three feet in length. Children under the age of three had simply been vaporised.




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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 1:01:48 PM   
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heh dumbfuk1 what was the V2 or a Heavy water plant? And their purposes?

I totally get that the Allies are not the "good" guys but that other side were far, far worse – for logic reasons I will omit Americans.




Then quit searching for the splinter in hitlers eye and dismissing the log in churchills, and call it what it is.

No one is saying everything done by germany was 100% moral, the fact is the UK not only forced hitlers hand to go to war but they also went into the war carpet bombing germany with complete disregard for and worse admittedly targeted civilians as a matter of course and war strategy committing atrocities and violating every law known to man. Hitler showed extreme restraint by comparison, he regarded brits as sax brothers and did not wish to destroy britain. Completely the opposite approach than britain had toward germany.


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 1:32:10 PM   
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Zoomer your figures please, for the wait has been long.

Bombing of Dresden

Large variations in the claimed death toll have fueled the controversy. In March 1945, the German government ordered its press to publish a falsified casualty figure of 200,000 for the Dresden raids, and death toll estimates as high as 500,000 have been given.[12][13][14] The city authorities at the time estimated no more than 25,000 victims, a figure that subsequent investigations supported, including a 2010 study commissioned by the city council.[15]

Or is Dresden now a Jew city?

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 3:52:17 PM   
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Zoomer your figures please, for the wait has been long.

Bombing of Dresden

Large variations in the claimed death toll have fueled the controversy. In March 1945, the German government ordered its press to publish a falsified casualty figure of 200,000 for the Dresden raids, and death toll estimates as high as 500,000 have been given.[12][13][14] The city authorities at the time estimated no more than 25,000 victims, a figure that subsequent investigations supported, including a 2010 study commissioned by the city council.[15]

Or is Dresden now a Jew city?



First the german government no longer existed, the zionists took over. Zionists have converted the european governments into a religious theocracy, your false estimates of only 25000 are produced from the same zionist theocracy. you are promoting zionist lies while dismissing reports that have been made from non german sources, prisoners of war held by germany who were there, but nope you support and suck your zionist god's dick.

Nothing like joining the ranks of the 3 asshelmet stooges WD




A real Holocaust Dresden: 13.2.1945
About 500,000 people were "democratically" exterminated in only one night!


At a time when 600,000 more refugees from Wrocław were still present in the city, 600,000 people were accommodated in each of the 12,000 multi-storey houses. This should not be disputed, and nothing remained of these houses. The people housed in it disintegrated at 1600 degrees Celsius to ashes without residue.

The number of 35,000 deaths is only a small part of the Holocaust victims who were fully identified.

Erhard Mundra, Member of the Board of the Bautzen Committee, explained this in the world on February 12, 1995 : "According to a statement from the former General Staff officer of the Dresden Defense Division, Lieutenant-General of the German Armed Forces aD Matthes, 35,000 dead were fully [identified], 50,000 partial and 168,000 dead were not identified. " All those children, women, old and wounded soldiers, of whom the conflagration did not even leave a handful of ashes, could, of course, no longer be grasped at all.


recap for the tards:

35,000 were fully identified
50,000 partial [guessed identity]
168,000 DEAD WERE NOT identified


and they knew the approximate number of refugees in the city at that time was close to a million total with the most recent influx only a couple days prior to the british and us genocide raids.



According to Chancellor Dr. Konrad Adenauer: "The attack on the city of Dresden, which was overcrowded with refugees on 13 February 1945, demanded about 250,000 dead alone." (DEUTSCHLAND TODAY, edited by the Press and Information Office of the Federal Government, Wiesbaden 1955, page 154)

The city of Dresden writes in a letter: "According to the Dresden police, 202,040 dead, mostly women and children, were recovered by 20 March 1945. Of these, only about 30% could be identified, including 250,000 missing persons To 300,000 victims be realistic ... " (Editor: Hitzscherlich, characters: 0016 / Mi, date: 31.7.1992)

Dresden was a hospital city without even a single anti-aircraft gun, without a military and without any military equipment. Dresden served to welcome refugees from the East. The roofs were marked with the RED CROSS.

The German cities became super crematoria


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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 7:59:25 PM   
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It appears that you are saying that germany lost the war and all that that entails.
Kinda give meaning to the phrase "don't start no shit and there wont be no shit" or as the
russians are fond of saying "tuffski shitski".

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/29/2017 11:26:13 PM   
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First off, I am a Republican. Which means I have right wing leanings.

Secondly, I like to think I know my fair share of world history.

I sort of like history. I don't like it when people try to distort it, or worse yet, rewrite it, to their liking. I see what some people have been selling the past 3 decades and I do not like it, not am I going to buy it.

But I am going to play Devil's advocate to begin with. IF, there were 500,000 victims, which is more than an order of magnitude inaccurate, and more than twice what the Hitler propaganda machine tried to push in 1945, I will say to you, since you so anti-semitic, "They that sow the wind, shall reap the whirlwind". I have seen quite a few photos of London during the Luftwaffe's terror bombing campaign and similar photo of many of south Britain's main cities and of the countryside, and I would have no problem IF there was a bombing to this scale, to a populace that knowingly massacred millions of people.

But alas, this is not the case, as someone already pointed out the figure is closer to 25,000 people, not the hundreds of thousands of innocent victims the modern German propaganda machine would have you believe as they are trying to rewrite history. Having been involved with the Germans for decades, I started seeing signs of this when I started seeing "art" like the statue of a poor elder German grenadier, huddling over a young child to protect him in the midst of an allied bombing, to commerate the untold stories of the innocent Germans lost in WWII. A few years back, I was listening to NPR (yes some of us occasionally do) and they were running a story in Germany about Reagan and how there was no street in Berlin at the time to commemorate him and his contribution as he was the man who was pivotal in reuniting Berlin and Germany. Most of the Germans interviewed displayed something between a "polite annoyance" to actual full on indignation that this question was being asked of them.

This is a country that currently is hopped up on the "Wirtschaftswunder" that has conveniently forgotten the Marshall Plan, the London Debt agreement of 1953, the fact that for a while the US required that anything sold in Europe would contain articles manufactured in Germany for decases, and many other inconvenient truths. I personally feel that we should all have abided by Stalin's terms, turn Germany into an agrarian society and let the bastards starve....

Instead, we spend billions of dollars in today's money so that we would not let one single sinister city starve to death and fall over into Russian hands. Way to say thank you.

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RE: A Moment of Silence in Memory of The Holocaust - 4/30/2017 12:56:24 AM   
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oh lookie, a sock!

1) you dont play devils advocate with a series of statments idiot.
2) jew is not a race
3) zionism is a typically atheist political movement
4) using the word 'antisemetic' proves you arent real brite since it includes virtually everone in the ME.

yes your problem is obvious.

I have no problem with what ever metric you want to use, if you want to use positiviely identified german bodies 'ONLY' (the 25k) that were genocide victims of the british+US holocaust with no other factors considered even better, I now want to see from you complete positive identification of every jew that you want to claim was gassed by hitler.










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