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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 12:31:22 PM   
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grass chomper - I really did run those adverts, truly.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 6:15:00 PM   
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We enjoy flirting and catch on to witty sexual banter much quicker than you think.

I don't know how witty is her sexual banter.

But if you have been here long enough. RM often only look at the worst interpretation of women for whatever they say. Also, he has not shown the entire conversation in context. And also, he said that even if she was just asking for sex indirectly. He has accused her of doing it in a high school female way. So either way, he is mad at her about it.

He is not a man who enjoys flirting I think.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 6:18:45 PM   
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Only when we request "extra starch" does it mean sex. And "hold the Mayo" means you better swallow. 😁

Make me a sandwich with extra starch means "I want to have sex with you"? Sounds more like, "I want you to make me cum."

"Hold the Mayo" means swallow? I get it Mayo is white like cum. But How is holding it swallowing?

How would you use all that in a sentence when propositioning to a woman?

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 6:20:37 PM   
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grass chomper - I really did run those adverts, truly.

You need to get the contact of this chick from RM and offer your grass chomping services.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 7:21:42 PM   
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wifey5 as you can clearly vouch for the twains reality with absolute confidence you must pass me their details – shall I be waiting long pants on fire mess? I want the one with the tits as opposed to the complete tit- fan of the nipples myself

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 8:55:11 PM   
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Imagine a man asking a woman to come over and fix him a sandwich but really means he wants to fuck her.

How well would that go? Would you be defending him if the said woman came to a forum and complained?

Gotta laugh at double standards.



These are not standards. Women communicate differently. As a whole, women don't cut their hair the way men cut theirs either. I have to say, this is very basic. You are frustrated with women partly because you don't understand even the basics or you are trolling. Either motivation is unenviable. Why reduce yourself as a man? You dislike yourself and project this into the opposite gender, blaming them for your weakness.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 11:20:59 PM   
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Feel free to show citations and all to prove how this has anything to do with biology. This seems like a piss poor pathetic excuse to me. It has nothing to do with gender if a person asks the other over for sex but pretends its a domestic chore.

That's besides the point. This wasn't about sex at all. I chat to the woman, every one of you did not. I'm the only one who had conversations with this woman and yet people are telling me they know better. What a laugh. I was thinking about ditching this woman before that particular conversation due to her appearing to be prudish and stand offish of anything sexual from things she said. At one point, a few days ago, I was mentioning that I was feeling hot (as in heat) and laying in bed. This was through kik messenger. Anyway, as people open the screen of their phone and not the actual message, they can see part of the message but not the whole message. When she saw part of the message, it was appearing to be a dirty message. She mentioned this to me and expressed that it made her angry at first until she saw the whole message. Before this incident and after this incident, she ranted about guys being disrespectful to women because they say sexual stuff.

It's amazing how much you clowns don't know but think you know.

All this said, even if this was about sex, how is this an justification? You pathetic lot are pretty much giving it a pass simply because she's a woman.

A man would never fucking ever be given a pass if he went around on websites and said to women he has never met that he wants them to come around and make him a sandwich or do his ironing but really meaning a root.

Men get crucified on these forums for expecting easy sex and/or not approaching it in a respectful and well mannered way. When men have these attitudes, they are deemed as being "self entitled", when women have these attitudes, the man is wrong for complaining about it!

All this is truly comedy gold. This is what female favourtism and feminism does to people, it turns them into pathetic hypocrites.

Anyone who is a hypocrite that keeps implying double standards is an unreasonable person. Unfortunately you just can't reason with the unreasonable. The female firsters/feminists truly are pathetic shameless hypocrites.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 11:35:36 PM   
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Most women suck. That's really all there is to it. Just like most men are not Masters. You can either waste your energy getting constantly frustrated by it, or you can continue your journey and your search, and continue to develop yourself and appreciate good women when you find them.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 11:50:41 PM   
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Hi Tamaka

Not only most women suck, most men suck too. Most people suck.

I don't feel frustrated by it, I feel amused. It amuses me even more watching people in here tumbling around with their foolish hypocrisy in an attempt to protect women or something.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/2/2017 11:58:08 PM   
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Hi Tamaka

Not only most women suck, most men suck too. Most people suck.

I don't feel frustrated by it, I feel amused. It amuses me even more watching people in here tumbling around with their foolish hypocrisy in an attempt to protect women or something.


Well i really can't say that i find it amusing. I really think it's sad and even terrible.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 12:25:39 AM   
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A man would never fucking ever be given a pass if he went around on websites and said to women he has never met that he wants them to come around and make him a sandwich or do his ironing but really meaning a root.

I honestly would not get pissed anymore, IF a man explained to me, that "Making him a sandwich", was simply his analogy for asking if I could come over and have sex with him. My next question would be, "Can you describe what a sexual experience with you, would be like?" I'd start being curious about his sexuality and sexual style in bed.

But I guess I do go on these sites looking for sex, so I am not offended if I meet men who just want sex. As I just want sex too. My goal is always finding that perfect sexual compatibility.

So I am more interested on, if I were to come over, how are we sexually compatible with each other that he would blow my mind?

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 12:54:03 AM   
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That's odd coming from you greta. A while ago, maybe last year, you expressed that you were asexual or something. You had no interest in sex. What made you change?

Anyway, greta, from what you are saying now, do you think I should make an announcement on this site? Bring out a message saying that it's okay for men to randomly ask women who they've never met to come over for sex in a disrespectful manner such like "come over and make me a sandwich"? It's okay for women to do this, right? So I should make a forum announcement for all the men reading that it's okay for them to do this too.

How cool is that? Everything is settled now.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 1:02:44 AM   
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That's odd coming from you greta. A while ago, maybe last year, you expressed that you were asexual or something. You had no interest in sex. What made you change?

Anyway, greta, from what you are saying now, do you think I should make an announcement on this site? Bring out a message saying that it's okay for men to randomly ask women who they've never met to come over for sex in a disrespectful manner such like "come over and make me a sandwich"? It's okay for women to do this, right? So I should make a forum announcement for all the men reading that it's okay for them to do this too.

How cool is that? Everything is settled now.

People on this forum describes me as "promiscuous". Even though I think that word is an insult to me, but I think you must have been the only person who ever thought I was asexual. As I am always chasing my perfect sexual experience constantly all my life. I'm a bit of a Nympho who's sex drive naturally increases endlessly with more sex and it's never ending for me when it comes to sex. I love long sexual marathons over days.

I don't know where you get the idea I am an Asexual.

As with everything, whether it's respectful or disrespectful depends on how the man phrase it.

Other people could see that woman was not being disrespectful but being flirty.

A man can use that term all they want, but I don't guarantee they will get laid.

Just like this woman can use her "mow my lawn" term all she wants, but it won't guarantee her getting laid.

When it comes to human relations. The key is being able to read the other person's personality and mirror that.

So a very flirtatious man will absolutely hate my mechanical and sterile and clinical questioning of him when it comes to sex.

As he just wanna be flirty flirty and I am not interested.

It's so funny, a man who proposed to me 2 years ago just contacted me again today. And wanted to see me again. He has tried to make peace with me past 2 years after the proposal went south. But when I stated my terms, he has always refused.

I ask him why if he wants me, does he not want to make me happy.

He said, "Because it's so meticulously structured, whatever you want. And that will lead to disappointment."

But I am that kind of person. I told him so we are not compatible. He wants spontaneous. I want meticulous structure.

So incidentally, we found a win win solution.

He will just show up where I want him to show up on that day. And I will tell him along the way, what is happening or what I want him to do.

That way. It's spontaneous for him and meticulously planned for me.

Win-Win :)

It's all about communication.



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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 4:56:32 AM   
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Anyone who is a hypocrite that keeps implying double standards is an unreasonable person. Unfortunately you just can't reason with the unreasonable. The female firsters/feminists truly are pathetic shameless hypocrites.

I missed any sign of this chick claiming to be a feminist in your OP. Is this your special "any woman who dares talk back to me is a feminist" definition at work again?

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 5:21:37 AM   
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I doubt women talk back to rm, even feminists. I doubt women talk to him at all. Hence these interminable threads.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 5:33:06 AM   
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A good point, well made.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 5:36:13 AM   
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This is a conversation I was having with a random woman who approached me on a dating site.

Her: haha no way, I'm more special than you.


Her: nope, I'm more special haha


Her: But I'm more special.

Trimmed but I don't really think I need the whole thing.

Unless she was trying to be playful in a D/s sense, the bit about "I'm special/more special than you" would be weird to me, too. If you 'met' (and I hate that term for somebody that you haven't been anything past electronic exchanges) on a kink dating site and either of you were into the whole worshiping/Dominant higher value deal as one of your kinks, I could have seen it as a type of flirting. Maybe not great flirting but flirting, nonetheless. Some people dig that role play on either side of the slash. Honestly, some submissives do get into it. Not a gender thing, either because there's plenty of M/f out there where the 'privilege of worshiping my cock (oral)' is common enough. Yes, I know you're a bottom, rather than an s-type, but, ya know. all types to make a world and all of that.

However, since I haven't seen anybody else mention it, I'll put my two cents in. Frankly, if we're at the level of you're spending time in my house that revolves around play, you're not my classification of "guest,"and that means you're going to contribute around here. Dating me doesn't look the same as most of you folks who are dating single. Most of you single folks, when you have somebody over for dinner/stay the night, you're doing roughly the same amount of household upkeep because it's still the bed you regularly sleep in, bathroom that you clean, etc, etc. On my end, it doesn't look like that. There's a whole bottom floor of this house (basement) that wouldn't have to be cleaned that much if I/we weren't playing in it. Frankly, it's mini dungeon down there, plus a bedroom, and a full bath. Not in use, I'd only have to spruce it up now and again. Completely different story when that part of the house is being used for play, sex, bath, and what have you. No offense to anyone but this isn't the equivalent of a free kinky B&B where a person comes and gets there kink on for the weekend, and then I get to clean it up.

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I was thinking about ditching this woman before that particular conversation due to her appearing to be prudish and stand offish of anything sexual from things she said. At one point, a few days ago, I was mentioning that I was feeling hot (as in heat) and laying in bed. This was through kik messenger. Anyway, as people open the screen of their phone and not the actual message, they can see part of the message but not the whole message. When she saw part of the message, it was appearing to be a dirty message. She mentioned this to me and expressed that it made her angry at first until she saw the whole message. Before this incident and after this incident, she ranted about guys being disrespectful to women because they say sexual stuff.

Men get crucified on these forums for expecting easy sex and/or not approaching it in a respectful and well mannered way. When men have these attitudes, they are deemed as being "self entitled", when women have these attitudes, the man is wrong for complaining about it!

Truthfully, you'd probably ditch me, too. I can't say where you were with this woman as far as the sexy fun talk thing but personally, if we don't have the familiarity level to have that kind of exchange, I'd rather not. Huge difference to me when it's somebody I'm seeing than random dude from the net is horny. The latter? I'm not going to lie to you. I really just don't care. If I don't have some kind of connection to the person, I'm pretty apathetic to their state of arousal.

Darn near every woman on this site is going to tell you that they get stuff that isn't appropriate. One of the really nice fringe benefits that I've had in leaving my profile here set to Alaska is that I don't come up in as many people's random searches that I don't know from Adam that think I have any interest in listening to their kinks or sexual urges. To me, that's a positive.

On a completely unrelated note, you really must have better time management skills than I do. I couldn't imagine having three intimate people in my life and still pursue more. Maybe it's the age difference but I just don't have the time I would need for that kind of thing.



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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 7:42:29 AM   
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Only when we request "extra starch" does it mean sex. And "hold the Mayo" means you better swallow. 😁

Make me a sandwich with extra starch means "I want to have sex with you"? Sounds more like, "I want you to make me cum."

"Hold the Mayo" means swallow? I get it Mayo is white like cum. But How is holding it swallowing?

How would you use all that in a sentence when propositioning to a woman?

It was originally meant as a joke and they indicated two separate actions but hmmmm, how's this " Slave, come into the bedroom I need you to "press something" for me please and it requires extra starch." I get that the literal translation could get ones cock sprayed with Niagra but it's no less ambiguous than "come mow my lawn." Where one envisions chasing a naked "70's" bush adorned sub/slave/ prospective partner around the yard on a Snapper mower. "Holding the Mayo" is quite simple. Hold it, I don't give a turkey club about how just don't spill / leak any. Clean up is messy so in your tummy it goes. Let's see, use it in a sentence ....."I've an appetite young lady that can only be sated by you. Come make me a sandwich please. Pet I'm going to need you to hold the Mayo though as I've a meeting in ten and won't have time to change. Dinner will be on me." (Double entendre/ witty sexual banter intended)
The little smiling emojis in my previous post indicated jest.
You giving your opinion of the OPs posts is appreciated. I don't know any of you that well. I visit the forums to learn and to be entertained. So far you and others have helped me succeed at both. Thank you!

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 1:40:12 PM   
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I missed any sign of this chick claiming to be a feminist in your OP. Is this your special "any woman who dares talk back to me is a feminist" definition at work again?


In what you quoted from me, you also missed the sign of me directing this at people in this thread, not that woman in that instance. But speaking of that woman, she may or may not be a feminist, however, she's definitely a female firster. By her attitude, it's possible that she would be the type that has the mentality where she thinks a man should pay for the date as a fee for her presence. She's a narcissistic chauvinist, so many women have the same bloody mentality.

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I doubt women talk back to rm, even feminists. I doubt women talk to him at all.


Yes, how dare men have a problem with your precious female privileges that you oh so dearly never want to give up!

How dare a man ever complain. Women can treat men how they want and if men complain about it, it means they are undeserving to have anything to do with women and must be ostracized.

This is what female chauvinist bigots have created which is now the social trend to think this way. Feminists on the other hand get a free pass to say anything about men. Even "how dare we sit how we want on public transport". Feminists can criticise every nook and cranny about men and blame men for everything, yet they are still not undeserving of men. Gotta larf.

LP

This has nothing to do with BDSM. I met this woman from a vanilla dating site and all our conversations in a 4 day or so period had nothing to do with BDSM. She was just some random who emailed one of my dating profiles that I hardly log into. I thought having random general chats wouldn't hurt. She was very easy on the eyes and was curious to see beyond.

I understand what you mean when you were speaking about how you go about your sexual life. I find it amusing but also highly disturbing how plenty of people think that a male should just take any opportunity of sex regardless how the said woman is treating him or else he missed out and he's a loser or whatever. Yet if we treated women that way, it would be full blown chauvinism and misogyny. If a man treated a woman like what I explained in the OP and a woman complained, the discussion would be about the man wanting cheap easy sex and the woman being entitled to having standards and wanting to be respected. Apparently to plenty of people, men aren't allowed to have standards and aren't allowed to feel offended by how women treat them.

What you mentioned about time management and having my 3 play partners, you know one of my main reasons why I prefer no strings instead of relationships? Because I have no obligation to spend too much time with people. I don't chat to my play partners every day, I don't play with them every week. It may even be once a month or not even that. Some play partners hate it that way and others don't mind or prefer it that way like myself. I hate being depended on. I hate it when someone appears needy towards me.

So anyway, I'm always open to try new people. I never get the satisfaction I really want out of anyone I play with or maybe kinks aren't as good when it happens than it is in the mind.

Instead of being stuck having to play with the same people forever, I would rather leave doors open to see if I do finally run into what I really want.

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RE: Problem with female entitlement and delusional self... - 2/3/2017 11:26:44 PM   
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This has nothing to do with BDSM. I met this woman from a vanilla dating site and all our conversations in a 4 day or so period had nothing to do with BDSM. She was just some random who emailed one of my dating profiles that I hardly log into. I thought having random general chats wouldn't hurt. She was very easy on the eyes and was curious to see beyond.

Fair enough. I was just thinking it might have been a possibility. You have to remember that I don't have the 'vanilla dating site' perspective, so it's not the first thing that I think of. I'm actually kind of interested in the subject because for a kinky person to be (what's the best term here?) on a normal/vanilla dating site to try to find out if a potential match has a kink streak. I just don't have experience in this area, so I just don't have a good reference.

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I understand what you mean when you were speaking about how you go about your sexual life. I find it amusing but also highly disturbing how plenty of people think that a male should just take any opportunity of sex regardless how the said woman is treating him or else he missed out and he's a loser or whatever. Yet if we treated women that way, it would be full blown chauvinism and misogyny. If a man treated a woman like what I explained in the OP and a woman complained, the discussion would be about the man wanting cheap easy sex and the woman being entitled to having standards and wanting to be respected. Apparently to plenty of people, men aren't allowed to have standards and aren't allowed to feel offended by how women treat them.

I might not have explained myself well. It's not about the sex thing. Not even D/s. Maybe it's a cultural thing? Where I'm from, if you're going to spend time in another person's home, you help out in some way. You (not you personally, but general you) don't just show up, eat their food, dirty their dishes, create more loads of laundry, and just not *do* anything to help out. Even if it's just the token helping out with dishes or straightening up.

Don't get me wrong. I love other people's company. Love spending time with them. I think it's cool as all get out when a friend or family member comes to my house and feels like they are at home. If you were at home, you'd still have to clean up after yourself and whatever. If you make your host feel like you're just taking advantage of them, that's not going to go well.

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What you mentioned about time management and having my 3 play partners, you know one of my main reasons why I prefer no strings instead of relationships? Because I have no obligation to spend too much time with people. I don't chat to my play partners every day, I don't play with them every week. It may even be once a month or not even that. Some play partners hate it that way and others don't mind or prefer it that way like myself. I hate being depended on. I hate it when someone appears needy towards me.

We're having the same communication issue that you and I have had for years. When I use the term "play partner," that's not necessarily the sexual angle, but more about the S/m. I don't chat to my play partners every day, either. There is a time investment, however, should the subject of drop come up, etc.

Engie is rather independent. (The former) tk was, too. I like it that way. Overly needy people make my skin itch in a bad way. If somebody is up my ass too much, it will feel like I'm smothered and consequently, actually want them around less. I don't mind being depended on if it's really serious sh^t, like a death in the family, serious car accident, major health issue, etc.

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So anyway, I'm always open to try new people. I never get the satisfaction I really want out of anyone I play with or maybe kinks aren't as good when it happens than it is in the mind.

As I'm getting older, I'm really good with my identity as a demi-sexual/sapio-sexual.

For what it's worth, I'd probably never initiate a dynamic with someone who is *just* a service submissive again. In my opinion, such dynamics are perfectly viable, but I'm not in my comfort zone 'settling' for less. I like having the "more". Sue me.

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Instead of being stuck having to play with the same people forever, I would rather leave doors open to see if I do finally run into what I really want.

It's the weirdest thing...

I don't "have to" play with the same people over and over. I enjoy casual S/m a great deal.

When I have that right thing with someone, it just suits me. My interest in casual play dissipates.

Ever hire and fire people for a living? You don't have to "like" them. They are there to do a job. That's it. They wouldn't be the person you'd socialize with if you met them on the street. They might be somebody you wouldn't even hang out with at the bar. If, for whatever reason you fire them, the employer/employee interaction is over. You (again, general you) get another employee. The other person finds another position. No muss. NO fuss.


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