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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 11:04:17 PM   
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Such as objects are solid.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 11:18:30 PM   
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Such as objects are solid.


and ur brain as evidenced by the above post is not.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/25/2017 11:34:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Such as objects are solid.


and ur brain as evidenced by the above post is not.


That's right. And neither is yours.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 12:01:59 AM   
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How credible can u be when u cant even be honest about the drivers of the "pro-life/anti abortion" movement being catholic-or born-again Christians

Pro-Life Atheists
Secular Pro-Life
Pro-Life Humanists
Pro-Life Pagans

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 1:13:34 AM   
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Getting back to the substance of this thread, it seems that Fox TV, nominated by Dear Leader Thump as the source of his bewildering pronouncements about Sweden, has run an interview with Nils Bildt, whom they billed as the "Swedish defence and national security advisor". Bildt told Fox what it wanted to hear - that Sweden's 'problems' were a direct result of a refusal to integrate by immigrants.

All of which would be fine if only Bildt was actually a "Swedish defence and national security advisor" as advertised. Sadly he is not. Bildt runs a geopolitical consultancy company but has no status with the Swedish Govt and is definitely not a "national security adviser".
"But security experts in Sweden said he was not a familiar figure in their ranks in that country. "He is in not in any way a known quantity in Sweden and has never been part of the Swedish debate,” Swedish Defence University leadership professor Robert Egnell said"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/26/fox-news-nils-bildt-swedish-defence-advisor-unknown-to-countrys-military-officials

So in addition to its usual fare of "fake news" Fox has taken to promoting "fake experts" and "fake national security advisors". Is it any wonder that viewers, which include Dear Leader Thump are so confused that they are apparently unable to distinguish between reality and fakery??

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 2:00:59 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tamaka


quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tamaka

Such as objects are solid.


and ur brain as evidenced by the above post is not.


That's right. And neither is yours.


I give up.
Is your brain a liquid or a gas?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 2:21:29 AM   
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Science is fact... until they find out they didn't know what they didn't know.


But that is science.

I don't know why you bring this up, since you seem to not be attached to religion.

Religion want's to hold knowledge to social norms existing hundreds or thousands of years ago and never change.

It is only natural that scientific knowledge or understanding changes every ten-twenty years or so in more adventurous matters, like particle physics or materials science, etc. But some things in science don't change much over the years. We all post here because of a long reliable and well attained understanding of electricity and electronics and reading glasses, for those in need of.

All I can say is that I'm glad that Windows or Microsoft or Apple or Amazon don't have control over more than they have already, otherwise we'd be having to change our electrical systems to 70 volts then to 500 volts then to 90 volts then to to 40Hz to 173kHz to 86Hz, every five years. Likewise reading glasses and plumbing.



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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 2:33:11 AM   
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Advertising and marketing are absolutely bitch-slapping and rag-dolling science at the moment.

Thank goodness we have some puff faced orange haired dullwit to distract us from that development.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 2:56:30 AM   
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Religion want's to hold knowledge to social norms existing hundreds or thousands of years ago and never change.

That's simply not true. In Christianity, the universe, too, is regarded as an expression of the Word of God. As early as 1615, writing to Foscarini regarding Copernicus, Cardinal Bellarmine said:

You ask for my opinion and so I shall give it to you . . . if there were a true demonstration that the sun is at the center of the world and the earth in the third heaven, and that the sun does not circle the earth but the earth circles the sun, then one would have to proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them than what is demonstrated is false. ~Source

In point of fact, it was the Christian belief that our universe was created by a rational God, and was therefore lawfully ordered, that spurred the development of Western science.

K.


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 4:49:44 AM   
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There were a lot of muslim rioters causing mayhem in Stockholm and Police had to fire rounds at them they were vicious bastards. That is what trump was on about not a terrorist bombing.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 6:39:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Getting back to the substance of this thread, it seems that Fox TV, nominated by Dear Leader Thump as the source of his bewildering pronouncements about Sweden, has run an interview with Nils Bildt, whom they billed as the "Swedish defence and national security advisor". Bildt told Fox what it wanted to hear - that Sweden's 'problems' were a direct result of a refusal to integrate by immigrants.

All of which would be fine if only Bildt was actually a "Swedish defence and national security advisor" as advertised. Sadly he is not. Bildt runs a geopolitical consultancy company but has no status with the Swedish Govt and is definitely not a "national security adviser".
"But security experts in Sweden said he was not a familiar figure in their ranks in that country. "He is in not in any way a known quantity in Sweden and has never been part of the Swedish debate,” Swedish Defence University leadership professor Robert Egnell said"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/26/fox-news-nils-bildt-swedish-defence-advisor-unknown-to-countrys-military-officials

So in addition to its usual fare of "fake news" Fox has taken to promoting "fake experts" and "fake national security advisors". Is it any wonder that viewers, which include Dear Leader Thump are so confused that they are apparently unable to distinguish between reality and fakery??



Would be easy if they would bother to get some proper informations from the places in question.

But the results would - in all likeliness - not match the official fox etc fakery.

Sadly the idiocy displayed in blind belief of that rubbish seems to be spreading.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 6:39:51 AM   
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Such as objects are solid.

Some objects are solids. Some are solids in phase. Even in caveman days, they noticed that some object are solid, some are not.

Try again.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 6:57:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata

quote:

ORIGINAL: Edwird

Religion want's to hold knowledge to social norms existing hundreds or thousands of years ago and never change.

That's simply not true. In Christianity, the universe, too, is regarded as an expression of the Word of God. As early as 1615, writing to Foscarini regarding Copernicus, Cardinal Bellarmine said:

You ask for my opinion and so I shall give it to you . . . if there were a true demonstration that the sun is at the center of the world and the earth in the third heaven, and that the sun does not circle the earth but the earth circles the sun, then one would have to proceed with great care in explaining the Scriptures that appear contrary, and say rather that we do not understand them than what is demonstrated is false. ~Source

In point of fact, it was the Christian belief that our universe was created by a rational God, and was therefore lawfully ordered, that spurred the development of Western science.

K.



Thank you Kirata.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 7:03:36 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: blnymph


quote:

ORIGINAL: tweakabelle

Getting back to the substance of this thread, it seems that Fox TV, nominated by Dear Leader Thump as the source of his bewildering pronouncements about Sweden, has run an interview with Nils Bildt, whom they billed as the "Swedish defence and national security advisor". Bildt told Fox what it wanted to hear - that Sweden's 'problems' were a direct result of a refusal to integrate by immigrants.

All of which would be fine if only Bildt was actually a "Swedish defence and national security advisor" as advertised. Sadly he is not. Bildt runs a geopolitical consultancy company but has no status with the Swedish Govt and is definitely not a "national security adviser".
"But security experts in Sweden said he was not a familiar figure in their ranks in that country. "He is in not in any way a known quantity in Sweden and has never been part of the Swedish debate,” Swedish Defence University leadership professor Robert Egnell said"
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/feb/26/fox-news-nils-bildt-swedish-defence-advisor-unknown-to-countrys-military-officials

So in addition to its usual fare of "fake news" Fox has taken to promoting "fake experts" and "fake national security advisors". Is it any wonder that viewers, which include Dear Leader Thump are so confused that they are apparently unable to distinguish between reality and fakery??



Would be easy if they would bother to get some proper informations from the places in question.

But the results would - in all likeliness - not match the official fox etc fakery.

Sadly the idiocy displayed in blind belief of that rubbish seems to be spreading.


Despite the constant denial, here is the 60 Minutes video (again) from Sweden, which needs no further explanation

CBS is pretty far left, and they sent a crew to show how warm and friendly and appreciative the Muslim immigrants in Stockholm are

They were lucky to make it out alive

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 7:06:16 AM   
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Presumably the camera was destroyed in the bombing, and this is why it doesn't show on that footage, then?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 7:42:37 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

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How credible can u be when u cant even be honest about the drivers of the "pro-life/anti abortion" movement being catholic-or born-again Christians

Pro-Life Atheists
Secular Pro-Life
Pro-Life Humanists
Pro-Life Pagans

K.




thank you kirata.

hey sirtoyou---if you are going to try to ridicule/chastise someone for stating what they do indeed know, you do well to have your own knowledge in order wouldn't you?

and to tack on:

www.catholicsforchoice.org
https://shinetyc.com/2017/01/24/pro-choice-christians

and at the same time:

www.prolifemuslims.com
www.jewishprolifefoundation.org


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 8:09:42 AM   
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this is fox's response to that episode:

quote:

Our booker made numerous inquiries and spoke to people who recommended Nils Bildt and after pre-interviewing him and reviewing his bio, we agreed that he would make a good guest for the topic that evening. — David Tabacoff, EP, The O’Reilly Factor...The Fox Spokesperson went on to say: Bill O’Reilly will further address this on Monday night’s show.


meanwhile, any miscommunication/misunderstanding, or even some purposeful misleading somewhere along the line, does not automatically make what the man said, untrue:

quote:

Suffice to say I am an independent political advisor. Fox News is solely responsible for the header or title used. I cannot comment on that. Sorry for any confusion caused, but needless to say I think that is not really the issue, the issue is Swedish refusal to discuss their social problems and issues...

Unfortunately Ms. Naslund is quite incorrect. Rather incorrect. The – There is a problem with the socially deviant activity. There is a problem with crime, there is a problem with areas or hotspots of crime be it in Malmo, Gothenburg or Stockholm or the suburbs thereof. And these things are not being openly and honestly discussed. The narrative in Sweden, the Swedish political debate, is completely false. You can not have a debate, an honest open debate in Sweden about immigration. Because if you don’t agree with the liberal — shall we say, common agenda — then you are viewed as an outsider or not even taken seriously...

We are unable in Sweden to socially integrate these people. But the Swedish politicians absolutely have no systemic plan for integrating mass amounts of immigrants to become productive members of society. So of course you’re gonna have social problems.


http://www.mediaite.com/online/questions-surround-whether-oreillys-guest-was-really-swedish-defense-and-national-security-advisor/


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 8:24:24 AM   
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It seems that for Bounty44 what matters is not who said what, and/or what their qualifications might or might not be, but whether what is said confirms his pre-existing political biases.

Even though Bounty44 acknowledges that this person has zero standing, that he has been totally misrepresented by Fox, he still insists that he is worth listening to because his message plays to Bounty's bias and prejudice.

The guy is a nobody with zero standing in the debate in Sweden. Which part of that do you fail to understand??? He was chosen precisely because he was going to say what uninformed idiots and bigots like you want to hear, not because he is an expert, or he has appropriate qualifications.

You are insisting that this nobody's message is worth listening to solely because it supports your prejudices. The other side of that is that any message that fails to conform to your set of prejudices and opinions isn't worth listening to, that it will be rejected. You are almost demanding that your news be "fake".

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 8:49:55 AM   
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no---but nice try at misrepresentation and your usual pompous presumption and snark too.

what im saying while there is presently confusion over the man's public justification/ability to represent the truth, don't dismiss what he says out of hand because of that confusion. especially as other sources say similarly.

got it?


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/26/2017 9:26:36 AM   
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Such as objects are solid.

Some objects are solids. Some are solids in phase. Even in caveman days, they noticed that some object are solid, some are not.

Try again.


You need to study quantum physics a bit.

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