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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 11:20:56 AM   
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Assange didnt do that - only a fuking moron would believe he did.


I dont particularly care if he did or didnt.. The reason he is at the embassy is cuz he doesnt want the US to get a hold of him/extradite him.. He knows he will be in jail for the next 40 years if they do.. I just find that ironic since he did everything he could to torpedo Hillary/Democrats in the US election (and soon he could find himself in an American jail till the day he dies) all cuz of an election in Ecuador..

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:13:29 PM   
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The difference is that rape is a crime under our laws and it is punished in our society, while Muslim law promises women as slaves as a reward for doing battle, rape as a reward for killing nonbelievers in the name of Allah. And anything goes under Muslim law, against women who dress what they consider to be immodestly. Showing an ankle or their face or whatever

In other words, the Muslim religion (and therefore "liberals") promote rape



Yup, rape IS a crime under our legal system....

However, the most recent Department of Justice statistics show that:

For every 1000 reported rapes, 994 of the accused will go free, 57 reports will even lead to an arrest, 1 of those will actually get referred to a prosecutor, of those 7 will lead to a felony conviction on some charge and out of that 7, 6 will get some prison time.


In the US, rape is the most under prosecuted criminal act and the least likely to lead to a conviction, because, rape is still considered "her word against his" and unless the perp looks like a real scum bag, juries tend to side with the accused.

And, such as the cases cited by Lucy, the simple truth is that, in the US, it is still a "the woman was asking for it" situation.

The top ten list of countries with the highest incidence of rape, as well as the lowest incidence of convictions:

10 Denmark and Finland
9 Zimbabwe
8 Australia
7 Canada
6 New Zealand
5 India
4 England and Wales
3 USA
2 Sweden
1 South Africa


Now, it may be considered a crime in those countries, but the real crime is that NOTHING IS BEING DONE ABOUT IT.

So, shut the fuck up.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:29:19 PM   
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So, shut the fuck up.


Keep talking

Why are there so few reported rapes in many Muslim countries? Perhaps because it is a crime to be raped, perhaps because it is impossible to prove under Muslim law...

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Rape and Adultery

Why are rape victims often punished by Islamic courts as adulterers?

Under Islamic law, rape can only be proven if the rapist confesses or if there are four male witnesses. Women who allege rape without the benefit of the act having been witnessed by four men (who presumably develop a conscience afterwards) are actually confessing to having sex. If they or the accused happens to be married, then it is considered to be adultery.
Quran

Quran (2:282) - Establishes that a woman's testimony is worth only half that of a man's in court (there is no "he said/she said" gridlock in Islam).

Quran (24:4) - "And those who accuse free women then do not bring four witnesses, flog them..." Strictly speaking, this verse addresses adultery (revealed at the very time that Muhammad's favorite wife was being accused of adultery on the basis of only three witnesses coincidentally enough). However it is a part of the theological underpinning of the Sharia rule on rape, since strict Islamic law does not recognize rape if there are not four male witnesses or a confession.

Quran (24:13) - "Why did they not bring four witnesses of it? But as they have not brought witnesses they are liars before Allah."

Quran (2:223) - "Your wives are as a tilth unto you; so approach your tilth when or how ye will..." There is no such thing as rape in marriage, as a man is permitted unrestricted sexual access to his wives.
Hadith and Sira
Sahih Bukhari (5:59:462) - The background for the Quranic requirement of four witnesses to adultery. Muhammad's favorite wife, Aisha, was accused of cheating [on her polygamous husband]. Three witnesses corroborated the event, but Muhammad apparently did not want to believe it, and so established the arbitrary rule that four witnesses are required.
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Rape of Muslim women is against Islamic law - although the rape of non-Muslim women is not, if they are 'captured in battle' or bought as slaves. Even the rape of a Muslim woman is almost impossible to prove under strict Islamic law (Sharia). If the man claims that the act was consensual sex, there is very little that the woman can do to refute this. Islam places the burden of avoiding sexual encounters of any sort on the woman.

A recent fatwa from a mainstream Islamic site echoes this rule and even chides a victim of incest for complaining when she has no "evidence":

However, it is not permissible to accuse the father of rape without evidence. Indeed, the Sharee’ah put some special conditions for proving Zina (fornication or adultery) that are not required in case of other crimes. The crime of Zina is not confirmed except if the fornicator admits it, or with the testimony of four trustworthy men, while the testimony of women is not accepted.

Hence, the statement of this girl or the statement of her mother in itself does not Islamically prove anything against the father, especially that the latter denies it.

Therefore, if this daughter has no evidence to prove that her accusations are true, she should not have claimed that she was raped by her father and she should not have taken him to the court. (IslamWeb.net, Image)

Since it is incredibly unlikely that a child molester will violate his victim in front of "four trustworthy men", Islamic law amounts to a free pass for sexual predators.

Islamic law rejects forensic evidence (such as DNA) in favor of testimony. An interesting situation thus sometimes develops in cases where a victim alleges rape and the man denies that sex even took place. In the absence of four male witnesses, rape cannot be proven. The woman's testimony then becomes a "confession" of adultery. She can be stoned, even though the male is unpunished, since he never admitted to a sexual act.

Some clerics blame rape on the woman. Australian Sheik Feiz recently said a rape victim "has no one to blame but herself. She displayed her beauty to the entire world... to tease man and appeal to his carnal nature." Even his successor, who was brought in to mitigate the backlash, compared unveiled women to "sweet pastries" tempting hungry men.

One of the world's most respected Sunni scholars, Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, recently told an audience on his al-Jazeera television show that "To be absolved from guilt, the raped woman must have shown some sort of good conduct."

Dr. Abd al-Aziz Fawazan al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law said that "If a woman gets raped walking in public alone, then she, herself is at fault. She is only seducing men by her presence. She should have stayed at home like a Muslim woman."

This was echoed by the imam of a Salafist mosque in Cologne, Germany in the wake of the shocking sex abuse rampage by recently arrived Muslims on New Year's Eve in 2015. He explained that "the events" (which included rape) "were the girls' own fault because they were half-naked and wearing perfume."

When it came to light in 2016 that a 13-year-old British girl had been abused by a dozen Pakistani rapists, certain members of the Muslim community said they believed the victim "played her part."

In 2013, Syria's chief Mufti, Sheikh Abd al-Rahman Ali al-Dala, issued a statement that gives soldiers religious permission to rape the women they capture.

There can be also no such thing as rape in a Muslim marriage, even if the husband has to hit the wife in order to bring about her submission. Another recent fatwa reminds a woman, she "does not have the right to refuse her husband, rather she must respond to his request every time he calls her." (Islam Q&A, Fatwa No. 33597).

Keep in mind that most Muslim countries do not operate under strict Islamic law, but rather under legal codes copied from the West. Therefore rape victims in these countries can - and often do - receive justice under more reasonable standards of proof.


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/quran/rape-adultery.aspx



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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:29:26 PM   
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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:30:32 PM   
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Sweden on the brink? Police force pushed to breaking point by violence amid migrant influxSWEDEN is on the brink of becoming a lawless state as the police force is losing the battle against unprecedented levels of crime and violence amid a growing migrant crisis.

The Scandinavian country is facing an existential crisis with on average three police officers handing in their resignations a day.

If the alarming trend continues, and police officers continue to resign more than 1,000 officers will have quit the service by New Years.

Since the migrant crisis began last summer, Sweden has been hit by a series of brutal crimes and violent incidents.

In 2015 alone Sweden, with a population of 9.5million, received over 160,000 asylum applications and the country is expected to take as many as 190,000 refugees, or two per cent of the population, by the end of 2016.

Since the Second World War Sweden has prided itself on helping migrants who cross their borders despite some moves to the political right in recent years.

But police have now admitted the force has reached breaching point as more than 50 areas in the country have now been placed on a “no-go zone” list.

In February a report from Sweden's National Criminal Investigation Service announced there were 52 areas where officers would not cope with the levels of crime being committed.

Sex assaults, drug dealing and children carrying weapons were just some of the incidents mentioned in the report.

In September, Swedish officials were forced to add another three areas to the list.

Now the Police Association have said they need at least 200 new officers to regain control in the south-east of the country.

Thomas Stjernfeldt, from the region's police association, told SVT: “We are missing extremely many officers in the operational sector, right now we need 200 more officers to be added to the force to establish a reasonable working environment in the southeast of Götaland.”

In 2015 alone Sweden, with a population of 9.5million, received over 160 000 asylum applications

On Monday, Express.co.uk reported a number of the arsonist attacks in the city of Växjö, in Götaland, had been committed by frustrated migrants.

Currently there are more than 6,000 suspected crimes that are unsolved in the area and 400 of these cases are suspected to be rapes, murder or attempted murder.

Mr Stjernfeldt said the figures are alarming and police officers are constantly forced to work overtime in an attempt to solve the reported crimes.

The Police Association admitted it fears the public will lose faith in the force and their ability to protect citizens if the situation is not resolved.

The union’s call for more resources echoes National Police Commissioner Dan Eliasson’s February warning, where he said he needed a further 4,100 officers and specialist staff to reestablish law and order in Sweden.


http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/727574/Sweden-chaos-Police-pushed-breaking-point-unprecedented-violence-crime


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:38:56 PM   
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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:42:58 PM   
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https://www.bustle.com/p/21-sweden-incident-memes-that-hilariously-shed-light-on-a-non-existent-event-39208

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:46:38 PM   
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wow and it hasnt snapped yet???
its taking its damn time....

oh this may be why
https://debunkingdenialism.com/2017/01/20/debunking-the-myth-of-no-go-zones-in-sweden/


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 12:55:49 PM   
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My name is boscox and I complete fanny, and currently sitting in a pool of my own vomit and piss puddle. And I think if I type lie after lie, like this, people will take my hysteria seriously.

Can I ask you a question?

Are you attracted to, and desire to lap the feeble bawbags, off:
Comrade Trump
Emperor Putin

They turned you, did they not, you fuking piece of errant hysterical garbage


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 1:17:00 PM   
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https://www.bustle.com/p/21-sweden-incident-memes-that-hilariously-shed-light-on-a-non-existent-event-39208

Love this one:

"Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Now we must stand with Sweden."

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 1:20:14 PM   
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Bosco, you fucking moron, I did not say that the Muslim countries were any better than others.

I am merely pointing out the simple fact that, even though it is a crime in other countries, it is often unreported and under prosecuted.

IN OTHER WORDS YOU FUCKING BRAINLESS IDIOT, WE ARE LITTLE BETTER THAN THEY ARE.

You cant grasp simple concepts. In fact you refuse to see the obvious.

As for unreported rapes in Muslim countries, got news for you, for every 1 rape reported in the US alone, 7 go unreported, and you already got the appallingly low number of convictions and actual jail sentences for those.

Does it matter in the slightest that in the US, one of the wealthiest countries in the world, that 1 in 6 children go hungry on a daily basis.

43.1 million people (13.5 percent) were in poverty. 24.4 million (12.4 percent) of people ages 18-64 were in poverty. 14.5 million (19.7 percent) children under the age of 18 were in poverty. 4.2 million (8.8 percent) seniors 65 and older were in poverty.


It is so funny that while you continously rail against Muslims and Muslim countries, and your defense when it is pointed out that there are serious concerns about problems within the US, you do not address those directly, you merely point to Islam and say it is worse.

You dont get it.

It may be worse, BUT, if we are not willing to fix the problems within our own country, what gives us the right to try and fix it in another one?

"The difference is that ...." doesn't cut it IF it does not show at least some effort to improve the appalling record that goes with it.

In other words:


quote:

Matthew 7:3-5King James Version (KJV)

3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?

4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?

5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


And you are truly exemplifying this in every possible extreme.

The worst thing is that you cannot, will not even REFUSE to see it. In case you have yet to realize it, the ONLY reason people respond to you on these boards is because your hypocrisy rates up there with Aimee Semple McPherson, Mark Driscoll, Jimmy Swaggart, Jim And Tammy Faye Bakker.

I mean seriously, your so stuck on your Islamophobic rants that you dont realize you are one of the biggest jokes on the boards, you rate up there with Realone and his Holocaust denial 9/11 conspiracy bullshit.

Which brings us to one of two answers:
You are truly a righteous fool who believes the US to be utopia
or
You are a troll who is just trying to stir up bullshit.

There is of course the possibility that you are a sock created to add to the rantings of a primary account.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 1:24:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery
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ORIGINAL: dcnovice

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https://www.bustle.com/p/21-sweden-incident-memes-that-hilariously-shed-light-on-a-non-existent-event-39208

Love this one:

"Sweden stood with us after Bowling Green. Now we must stand with Sweden."


That was one of my favorites too.

I also enjoyed these:

Pray for Sweden. They will wake up with universal healthcare. Paid parental leave. Green energy. Free daycare. Sane leaders.

* * *

bowling green. atlanta. sweden.

how many people have to not die before we do nothing?


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 1:27:48 PM   
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https://www.bustle.com/p/21-sweden-incident-memes-that-hilariously-shed-light-on-a-non-existent-event-39208



LMAO some good ones..

This one was fun....

Allies Trump has insulted: Sweden, Norway, Canada, Mexico, Australia, Germany and NATO, etc.
Countries Trump has not insulted: Russia.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 1:36:01 PM   
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmu7bHj81WI

This may be a reason to Massacre Sweden.


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 2:36:49 PM   
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Oh, I dunno.. if Assange trusted Trump he would be over at the US embassy by now.. he sees Trump as a raving madman, just as the rest of the world does..

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 3:22:25 PM   
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Andy Borowitz strikes again.

"I can't believe what happened last night in Sweden." -- Donald Trump
"Nothing happened last night in Sweden." -- The Swedes
"Where is Sweden?" -- Betsy DeVos


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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 3:29:45 PM   
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Agent Orange got it from Faux news, meanwhile please feel for all my family in Sweden, that fabulous health care, social care and brilliant infrastructure causes them sleepless nights... The refugees much less so, but what would they know, they only live there, unlike the Oompaa Lompaa with the bigly hands

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 3:38:55 PM   
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I have just seen one Betsy McCaughey defending Trump over this, on CNN. The CNN presenter said it wasnt true and she had the crime figures from the Swedish Government. Poor Betsy claimed to have read the truth in the Daily Express and continued her bullshit by insisting the Express, and not the Swedish Government, must have the fact right.

You couldnt make this shit up.

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 4:27:07 PM   
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Wee sure you could. you just saw it on tv and what are the chances of that 100% or so?

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RE: The Swedish meatball masacree – never forget! - 2/20/2017 4:34:56 PM   
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for all the smug lefties who like to mock fox or thoughtful people who have legitimate concerns what massive influx of people from another culture does to one's own culture, grow up, and actually consider some news that differs from yours.

among other things theres this:

(yes I get there is no evidence from the chart alone as to who's causing the crimes---and interestingly enough, I understand Sweden will not/does not release statistics on immigrant/refugee crime.)



the red line is rape and the blue line is the total number of sex crimes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Sweden

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