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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/25/2017 5:59:28 PM

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Are you aware that in their ideology/culture, it is quite normal (and accepted/encouraged) for men to take very young (pre-teen) wives?
As soon as a female menstruates, they are allowed to have them as wives and for them to bear children.
In the western world, that is considered pedophilia and is illegal.
Yet you welcome this evil ideology into your midst?

I would call your attention to austria, albania, bolivia, bosnia/hertsogovinia, brazil, china, estonia, germany, hungary, italy, japan, lichtinstien, macedonia, montenegro, paraguay, peru, phillipinenes, portugal and san marino. All are 14 except the phillippines at 12, and japan at 13. You will also note that in most of the islamic countries marriage is the primary prerequisite.

https://www.ageofconsent.net/world

In 1880, the age of consent was set at 10 or 12 in most states, with the exception of Delaware where it was 7.[2] The ages of consent were raised across the U.S. during the late 19th century and the early 20th century.[3][4] By 1920 ages of consent generally rose to 16-18 and small adjustments to these laws occurred after 1920. As of 2015 the final state to raise its age of general consent was Hawaii, which changed it from 14 to 16 in 2001.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_the_United_States

That belief makes me sick - and I'm not a christian.

Because, even in their own country, they are being barbaric towards women and children (particularly girls) and we in the west want to poke our oar in to fix it to our ideology.

Why do you feel it is your business to "poke your oar" into someone elses business in a country you do not live in and do not plan to visit?

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/25/2017 6:46:48 PM

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Well, as I was led to believe, the Muslims are probably evil, but not for the reasons dealing with religion.

Those bastards gave us that fucked up math known as algebra, the word is derived from the arabic al-jabr, which was brought to the west by the Italians (there fore equally evil and worthy of extinction) further developed in the west by the French (so we can turn France and all former French colonies to radioactive wastelands) and brought over to the Americas by English, Dutch, French, German (fuck it, nuke every country that had a colony in the new world as punishment for Algebra.)

Hell nuke every country where some historic mathematician further developed the stuff that is now collectively known as algebra...

Hmm, that pretty much means the entire planet.

And considering the current state of human civilization, would not be a loss at all.

Muslims have destroyed enough fantastic ancient temples and libraries and other structures, art works and artifacts to more than make up for any math contributions

Add that to their slaughtering by some estimates up to 800 million people through time, all of the hundreds of millions of people they have enslaved... And that's one math class I am willing to do without.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/25/2017 6:50:22 PM

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On the other hand one does have a choice about how fat they are.

Being fat is not a choice for everybody.

Opinion not supported by facts. When you bring some facts to the discussion let me know.

I totally disagree with this statement.

Color me surprised.

Explain to me, why Serena Williams, works so hard, and ends up bigger than all other athletes in her same sport?

Are you seriously claiming that serena williams is obese?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

It's just her genes. I am sure she is eating right and exercising right. But no use. She does not have the leaner frame like her sister Venus.

Please do tell us the bfp of the two women in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage

Yes Serena Williams would be considered "obese" by Asian standards.
We don't care about body fat percentage. We only care if the woman looks stick thin. And someone like her can never achieve stick thin status EVEN with 0% fat. So my whole point is. Everybody's body shape is different. And there are some William like Serena Williams who can never physically look skinny ever no matter how hard she tries.

Looking skinny isn't about body percentage fat. As there are many skinny fat people. Especially most Asian women, with very tiny bone structure, they can pile up alot of fat before they even look normal sized. But Skinny fat is fine. As long as physically, visually, it looks skinny. Because when people judge you for obesity. They aren't gonna judge you by your body percentage fat content. They will just judge you base on the visual they see.

PS: Incase other people who haven't been following the train of argument between me and Thompson. THIS is not about encouraging women to be skinny or saying skinny is the best. But if Serena Williams grew up in my country. She would be fat shamed constantly, despite 0% fat. And that's the point I was trying to make. That NOT ALL woman can help it. Not every woman can be skinny. It all depends on bone structure and body shape.
So perpertuating the lie that it is possible for any woman to not look "obese" or "overweight" is one big lie.

We had an article here featuring 10 women with about 10% body fat but look big. Because they were chunky built. They even put skinny women who are twice skinnier than them but twice as much fat in their body beside them, and they still look fatter than the women with much unhealthier body fat in their bodies. Yet all these women have suffered alot of fat shaming, despite being low fat content. While their skinny fat counterparts have never been fat shamed.

So I think people should stop perpetrating the lie that you can be skinny with just diet and exercise. It will never happen for Serena Williams and some other women shaped like her.

Because it will just make women sized like Serena feel bad about themselves that they can be 0% fat and still be told they are obese by the public.

IF people didn't know Serena was a top tennis player and was just an ordinary woman by the street. There will be alot of men who will find her sized too big for his taste.

In conclusion, my main point is. Diet and Exercise can only help you stay healthy and live longer. But if you aren't the right body structure. You can never be skinny. It is impossible! Serena Williams is proof.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/25/2017 8:06:14 PM

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On the other hand one does have a choice about how fat they are.

Being fat is not a choice for everybody.

Opinion not supported by facts. When you bring some facts to the discussion let me know.

I totally disagree with this statement.

Color me surprised.

Explain to me, why Serena Williams, works so hard, and ends up bigger than all other athletes in her same sport?

Are you seriously claiming that serena williams is obese?
Jesus you are phoquing stupid

It's just her genes. I am sure she is eating right and exercising right. But no use. She does not have the leaner frame like her sister Venus.

Please do tell us the bfp of the two women in question.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage

Yes Serena Williams would be considered "obese" by Asian standards.

Cite please.

We don't care about body fat percentage. We only care if the woman looks stick thin.

That is what body fat percentage is dumbass.

And someone like her can never achieve stick thin status EVEN with 0% fat.

Zero percent fat means you are dead dumbass.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

So my whole point is. Everybody's body shape is different. And there are some William like Serena Williams who can never physically look skinny ever no matter how hard she tries.

That would be your ignorant unsubstantiated opinion which is worth somewhat less than used shit paper.

Looking skinny isn't about body percentage fat.

Yes it is dumbass...get someone who speaks english to help you with the big words.

As there are many skinny fat people.

Only in your feeble mind

Especially most Asian women, with very tiny bone structure, they can pile up alot of fat before they even look normal sized.

Roflmfao,

But Skinny fat is fine. As long as physically, visually, it looks skinny. Because when people judge you for obesity.

No one is judging your or anyone elses obesity. We are discussing the objective definition of obesity not your opinions or your girth...get over yourself...this is not about you. It is about the dramatic increase of obesity in singapore and what the government is or is not doing about it. You claim that the ebil mooslems do not protect their women while the third world shithole called singapore does nothing to protect their women from the ultimate effects of the dramatic rise in obesity.

They aren't gonna judge you by your body percentage fat content. They will just judge you base on the visual they see.

What one sees is called "body fat percentage"
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

PS: Incase other people who haven't been following the train of argument between me and Thompson. THIS is not about encouraging women to be skinny or saying skinny is the best. But if Serena Williams grew up in my country. She would be fat shamed constantly, despite 0% fat. And that's the point I was trying to make. That NOT ALL woman can help it. Not every woman can be skinny. It all depends on bone structure and body shape.
So perpertuating the lie that it is possible for any woman to not look "obese" or "overweight" is one big lie.

Keep telling yourself that sweetie.

We had an article here featuring 10 women with about 10% body fat but look big. Because they were chunky built. They even put skinny women who are twice skinnier than them but twice as much fat in their body beside them, and they still look fatter than the women with much unhealthier body fat in their bodies. Yet all these women have suffered alot of fat shaming, despite being low fat content. While their skinny fat counterparts have never been fat shamed.

Cite please

So I think people should stop perpetrating the lie that you can be skinny with just diet and exercise. It will never happen for Serena Williams and some other women shaped like her.

Because it will just make women sized like Serena feel bad about themselves that they can be 0% fat and still be told they are obese by the public.

Here are some current pictures of her. Why do you think she is obese?

http://www.si.com/swimsuit/model/serena-williams/2017/photos

IF people didn't know Serena was a top tennis player and was just an ordinary woman by the street. There will be alot of men who will find her sized too big for his taste.

You are smokin' the wrong kine.

In conclusion, my main point is. Diet and Exercise can only help you stay healthy and live longer. But if you aren't the right body structure. You can never be skinny. It is impossible! Serena Williams is proof.

The pics are at the link...who thinks serena is obese who thinks she is smokin' hawt?
We know greta's opinion.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/25/2017 8:57:20 PM

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If Serena is not obese then I am not obese. Because I consider myself obese because I am sized like Serena. Maybe even smaller.

But in Singapore. I am considered Obese and many men will consider Serena Obese.

But to me, she is fit and big woman who can never be slim. Like me.

Even Xena the warrior princess was considered obese over here.

And Beyonce is seen as a BBW in Singapore. Like if a local man says he likes BBW. He meant the biggest he can take is Beyonce size.

The fact that our BMI is stricter than US BMI levels tells you exactly our classification of obesity is INFACT officially different from the US.

And BMI is the standard scale to judge obesity and overweight levels by official country statistics in most countries.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 8:37:08 AM

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This was happening in Obama's America, Bush's American, Clinton's America.....

Hey guys, it is our America and we, that's right WE are contributing to the shit load of fucking racial and religious violence going on here. Christ, if we could actually and accurately blame the man or woman in the oval office, it would be a fucking easy problem to solve.

But the truth is that no matter what side of the aisle you follow, the American drive toward intolerance for those that disagree with us politically, religiously, or for any other reason is what is turning this country into the hate filled place it is.

Jeez, read some of the posters on this board.

And I aint innocent, there are a number of posters on this board I would happily stake face down over an ant hill just to hear them scream, or hanging them head down over fire sounds good to me too.

Look at the news headlines. No one said shit about a Muslim organization that raised over a hundred thousand dollars to help pay for the grave markers destroyed by vandals in a Jewish cemetery in St. Louis, or Muslims coming out and condemning the attacks on Jewish community centers and synagogues in recent months.....

Or the African American male who stopped to help a white cop that was ambushed recently....

No, all anyone wants to do is spew more hate, more intolerance, more politically and ideologically motivated hate.

In the US today there is an us v them mentality, US against the Muslims, Us against the Conservatives or Us against the Liberals.

Dont like what someone has to say, put a label on them and yell at the top of your lungs they are the reason this country is going down the toilet.

So folks, you want to blame someone for the shit going on, here and in the world (this goes for our international users as well) look to our leaders then into a fucking mirror.

Brilliant post.

I have disagreed with you about many things and no doubt will continue to do so in the future, but this thoughtful and timely post is absolutely on the money.

It's not disagreeing or being different that's the problem, it's the escalating intolerance and hate. The point about the mirror is well made.

Thank you.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:07:13 PM

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Brilliant post.

I have disagreed with you about many things and no doubt will continue to do so in the future, but this thoughtful and timely post is absolutely on the money.

It's not disagreeing or being different that's the problem, it's the escalating intolerance and hate. The point about the mirror is well made.

Thank you.

Well, you seem to be the only one that gets it.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:33:23 PM

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Brilliant post.

I have disagreed with you about many things and no doubt will continue to do so in the future, but this thoughtful and timely post is absolutely on the money.

It's not disagreeing or being different that's the problem, it's the escalating intolerance and hate. The point about the mirror is well made.

Thank you.

Well, you seem to be the only one that gets it.

I've been saying the same thing more directly. The hate is the problem and when the left points their finger at the right, they fail to notice their thumb pointing back at them.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:38:16 PM

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Brilliant post.

I have disagreed with you about many things and no doubt will continue to do so in the future, but this thoughtful and timely post is absolutely on the money.

It's not disagreeing or being different that's the problem, it's the escalating intolerance and hate. The point about the mirror is well made.

Thank you.

Well, you seem to be the only one that gets it.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:40:24 PM

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Sometimes 'hate' is simply disagreement, even if it is extremely bitter disagreement. But saying that that is the problem presupposes that the other position is in fact rooted in rationality or carefully considered facts.

There are multiple issues where this simply is not the case.
More than anything, the election of Trump proves that to be true.

I agree that it would be nice to be able to reach them on some level and convince them that they are being lied to about, say, climate change... but good luck with that one.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:41:20 PM

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How about this...How about you find a grown up to explane the big words to you. The big words I am refering to are the ones that show the protocol for making the comparisons.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

did you drop out of school?
I mean you're replies are so rife with incoherent babbling, typographical errors, and a seemingly constant incompetence as you try and insult people whom categorically disprove you wrong on many counts.

How about this - Learn how to properly type the word 'explain' and 'referring' before you open your mouth.
And then after you're done doing that, maybe then you can learn the difference between a CITY and a COUNTRY.
Or what a STANDARD is in the context of comparison is.

Until then - stop talking.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:48:40 PM

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Sometimes 'hate' is simply disagreement, even if it is extremely bitter disagreement. But saying that that is the problem presupposes that the other position is in fact rooted in rationality or carefully considered facts.

There are multiple issues where this simply is not the case.
More than anything, the election of Trump proves that to be true.

I agree that it would be nice to be able to reach them on some level and convince them that they are being lied to about, say, climate change... but good luck with that one.

And that is wrong. Hate is not sometimes or ever for that merely 'disagreement' . And hate is a word which the left has thrown around carelessly and dangerously for years now... and words have power. I wish that they would read 'The Four Agreements' before they do anymore damage.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:54:08 PM

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You're so compassionate and diplomatic that you've insisted the left stop being so hateful twice in a row, with no mention of the right at all.

I don't know why we can't get along-- it's a total mystery.

I guess you don't hate Islam, you just wish it didn't exist and wouldn't think twice about sending anyone who identifies as Muslim back to a war zone to be killed, raped, sold into slavery, etc. Nothing wrong with that.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 12:57:00 PM

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The right doesn't accuse the left of being haters.

I don't hate Muslims or anybody for that matter. But that doesn't mean i am going to invite your serious problems into my house to live.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:00:16 PM

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The right doesn't accuse the left of being haters.

I don't hate Muslims or anybody for that matter. But that doesn't mean i am going to invite your serious problems into my house to live.

I don't accuse them of it so much as I point out the obvious.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:06:21 PM

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The right doesn't accuse the left of being haters.

I don't hate Muslims or anybody for that matter. But that doesn't mean i am going to invite your serious problems into my house to live.

I've been called hateful multiple times by multiple RWNJ posters on this board.

BamaD insists I hate America and democracy. BoscoX just says I'm hateful but doesn't say exactly what I hate... to be honest, I think he just watches a lot of youtube and when he senses I'm not on his 'team', he just groups me in with a lot of people I don't know and may or may not agree with. Respectmen is constantly, endlessly telling me and other left-leaning people that we are all radical militant feminists who hate white men.

For fuck's sakes, look at BoscoX's current signature! It's a tasteless insult wherein he labels all Democrats as members of a 'hate group'! And we're the ones throwing the word 'hate' around so casually? Ridiculous! Not to mention the endless pet insults that the right is constantly lobbing around-- libtard, dumbocrat, etc... all of them unforgivably stupid, and yet they continue to lob them around as if they're so clever for using them.

And I didn't say you hated Muslims, but I am sure you hate Islam.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:26:27 PM

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I don't hate Islam. Parts of it i think are actually very nice. I honestly think if we stopped using the word hate... hate would disappear. Words are powerful.

And i guess you're right. Everyone should read the 4 Agreements.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:33:10 PM

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I've been saying the same thing more directly. The hate is the problem and when the left points their finger at the right, they fail to notice their thumb pointing back at them.

Gee, the same is true for the right? Don't you think?

And by all means, tell me why the 'right' are the only people who are correct in this and everyone else is wrong.

Seriously, both sides have gone out of their collective ways to piss off large segments of the population with bullshit its no longer funny.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:39:17 PM

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I've been saying the same thing more directly. The hate is the problem and when the left points their finger at the right, they fail to notice their thumb pointing back at them.

Gee, the same is true for the right? Don't you think?

And by all means, tell me why the 'right' are the only people who are correct in this and everyone else is wrong.

Seriously, both sides have gone out of their collective ways to piss off large segments of the population with bullshit its no longer funny.

Sure... agreed. But i do believe it started with the left calling everyone haters, bigots, homophobes, etc. But sure... like a forest fire, it spreads... with the media constantly throwing on gasoline and fanning the flames.

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RE: Look at what's happening in Trump's America - 2/26/2017 1:44:18 PM

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How about this...How about you find a grown up to explane the big words to you. The big words I am refering to are the ones that show the protocol for making the comparisons.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

did you drop out of school?
I mean you're replies are so rife with incoherent babbling, typographical errors, and a seemingly constant incompetence as you try and insult people whom categorically disprove you wrong on many counts.

How about this - Learn how to properly type the word 'explain' and 'referring' before you open your mouth.
And then after you're done doing that, maybe then you can learn the difference between a CITY and a COUNTRY.
Or what a STANDARD is in the context of comparison is.

Until then - stop talking.

For those who are not smart enough to actually be part of a discussion I put in typos so they can post and feel as if they have actually contributed.
It works for punks like you all the time dawg.
Now if you can find an adult to help you with the big words try to decipher what they mean in a sentence.

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