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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 9:14:06 AM   
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It's like not even the end of Feb yet.

You can write about stuffs when 4 years are over and judge holistically.

Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

He would be God.

I don't think he will be in office 4 years from now.
The Conservatives are probably thinking that Pence is a much better prospect and that would put Ryan in the VEEP slot. Ryan wants the WH so badly he can taste it. If the Republicans are smart, they will enlist the Dems to get the ball rolling and go along with them in exchange for cooperation on certain key legislation.
Trump may be the impetus for the first real bipartisanship in Congress in a generation.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 9:17:48 AM   
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Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

Carter got an amnesty for Vietnam draft dodgers in place by the end of his third day on the job, iirc.

So why was Jimmy Carter not seen as a spectacular President?


Because he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 9:36:02 AM   
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He did get Israel to publicly entertain the notion of recognizing Palestine and to sign a peace accord.

If only we had help them to it! We might have prevented 9/11.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 9:39:38 AM   
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It's like not even the end of Feb yet.

You can write about stuffs when 4 years are over and judge holistically.

Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

He would be God.



and he is quoting the king of the fake news as his source! lol

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 10:11:14 AM   
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South korea and their amerikan allies got their asses handed to them the last time they tried that.


Are you referring to the US/S. Korean efforts in the so-called Korean war ? If so...I beg to differ. Even though the west formed a UN coalition, we both know what followed was...on the US.


You may differ all you wish. the facts are that n. korea is still there.

The Battle of Inchon (1950) was an amphibious invasion of Incheon from the Yellow Sea. It was a major victory for United Nations forces, (US) and turned around what was then a losing war. The U.S. Marine-led force was commanded by General of the Army Douglas MacArthur.


No it was not. "dug-out doug" was the overall commander and did not have operational command of the marines. that would have been olie smith.
Olie smith had jack hawkins and chesty puller to do the heavy lifting. The logistics for the marines came from the japs. Thirty seven of the 47 lst used to transport the marines and their equipment were manned by japs.



By Nov. it was really a Sino-American war as China became fully involved or otherwise, N. Korwa does not last.

N.korea was fighting a civil war with s.korea. Amerika intervened and as you correctly point out it then became another proxy war.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 10:19:44 AM   
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This actually isn't a Singapore problem.

When North Korea attacks. It's US that is one of their top targets that's for sure. You think they stocking all this stuffs up to attack Singapore? We are nothing to them. They want the big prize.

If we look at the weapons of n.korea we do not see any weapons that would allow them to invade and conquor anyone let alone amerika.

And I highly doubt US will Nuke them in response since North Korea holds alot of their own citizens as hostages and US ain't gonna kill a whole country of brainwashed innocent people.

Why not???amerika did it in the sandbox.

They would then have to invade North Korea, like they did Iraq and take out their dictator.

And China will stay out of everything. And not get involved.


Why do you think china would allow amerika to invade n.korea?


I am actually mentioning US not because I am trying to push a problem to them.

We fight our own battles with our own neighbours.


That third world shithole called singapore could not fight it's way out of a wet paper bag without uncle sugars hand up their ass.

But with specifically North Korea. I definitely see them developing these things to be hostile specifically towards the US.

Why do you think they are developing long range missiles with the goal to reach the US soil?

North korea already has med range balistic missles that can reach significant targets in western amerika. They have no reason to induce a "first strike" but every reason to point out to amerika that they have the ability to retaliate.
Jesus you are phoquing stupid.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 10:26:41 AM   
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Are you volunteering? Its easy to say that others have to put their lives on the line when you know you wouldnt ruck up and go yourself. The "let the American soldiers die" to solve the problem is BULLSHIT.


Yup.


This is America's problem. One day, North Korea is gonna start releasing their VX in US airports.

I mean, the last thing I'd be worrying about is Nukes that are capable of reaching US from North Korea, which North Korea is trying to develop.

This VX thing is probably the immediate danger.


Gee, aint happened yet, and there is one little thing that YOU dont seem to get...

While North Korea rants about the US, they know one thing, VX is a WMD, and if used against the US, the US will respond with WMD's, which in this case would be Nukes.

As for its America's problem, North Korea is closer to you folks than us, and with their current missile tech, has a better chance at hitting your country than ours.

I find it funny as hell that regional problems seem, like your bullshit analysis, to become "America's Problem."

Got news for you, the average American citizen is getting tired of everything being America's problem.


Punks like sanity and his socks are all for "you and him" to fight while they do not posses the balls that gawd gave a girl scout.



However, if you really want it to be America's problem, then have your country renounce independence, apply to the US for either state or territory admission and then shut the fuck up.


Naw dude. If we allow that then we have to support them. The way it is now we sell them shit that does not work and charge them up the ass for it. How much have we skinned them for with the airplane that wont fly?
How does it get any better?


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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 10:28:50 AM   
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I don't think he will be in office 4 years from now.
The Conservatives are probably thinking that Pence is a much better prospect and that would put Ryan in the VEEP slot. Ryan wants the WH so badly he can taste it. If the Republicans are smart, they will enlist the Dems to get the ball rolling and go along with them in exchange for cooperation on certain key legislation.
Trump may be the impetus for the first real bipartisanship in Congress in a generation.


I think you have got a pretty good handle on how the next year or so will pan out.]

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 10:31:09 AM   
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Because he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.


He did get the hostages back and tell us again how many amerikan service men died on his watch?

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 12:49:38 PM   
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Increasing the amount of nuclear weapons in the world doesn't make anyone safer... it only increases the likelihood that terrorists will procure one.

In the meanwhile, North Korea is producing more of this seriously dangerous VX substance! That can kill even with vapours inhalation of the substances. We all see how it killed someone within minutes already.
Just like that!
Nobody cares!
I just don't get how North Korea is getting away with this!
That would be more pressing than Nuclear I think! Biological airborne deadly substances that they could unleash at any location or airports! Due to minuscule quantity it takes to transport it and cause damages it needs to cause, like hide it in a pen, so cannot be detected at airports.


It's not that no one cares. I don't think anyone thought Saddam had nuclear warheads and/or missiles capable of delivering nuclear warheads. North Korea sure might. Invading North Korea would likely result in them using whatever capabilities the do have. No one wants a nuclear war. Kim Jung Un doesn't seem like the most rational person.

North Korea and China have a close enough relationship that the US doesn't want to invade North Korea and risk pissing off China. Considering that relationship, China is looked upon to keep reins on North Korea.


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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 1:01:43 PM   
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Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

Carter got an amnesty for Vietnam draft dodgers in place by the end of his third day on the job, iirc.

So why was Jimmy Carter not seen as a spectacular President?


Because he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.

Of course, a cynic might suspect that the biggest problem with Carter's public image is the D after his name.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 2:52:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Greta75
Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

Carter got an amnesty for Vietnam draft dodgers in place by the end of his third day on the job, iirc.

So why was Jimmy Carter not seen as a spectacular President?


Because he couldn't lead pissants to a picnic.

Yet was twice the man Reagan was.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 2:54:51 PM   
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He did get Israel to publicly entertain the notion of recognizing Palestine and to sign a peace accord.

If only we had help them to it! We might have prevented 9/11.

Nope, Not after Reagan and using Israel to deal with Iran and his gunboat diplomacy in the ME.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 2:55:36 PM   
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He deserves zero respect, and by god he is getting it.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 3:07:11 PM   
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South korea and their amerikan allies got their asses handed to them the last time they tried that.


Are you referring to the US/S. Korean efforts in the so-called Korean war ? If so...I beg to differ. Even though the west formed a UN coalition, we both know what followed was...on the US.


You may differ all you wish. the facts are that n. korea is still there.

The Battle of Inchon (1950) was an amphibious invasion of Incheon from the Yellow Sea. It was a major victory for United Nations forces, (US) and turned around what was then a losing war. The U.S. Marine-led force was commanded by General of the Army Douglas MacArthur.


No it was not. "dug-out doug" was the overall commander and did not have operational command of the marines. that would have been olie smith.
Olie smith had jack hawkins and chesty puller to do the heavy lifting. The logistics for the marines came from the japs. Thirty seven of the 47 lst used to transport the marines and their equipment were manned by japs.



By Nov. it was really a Sino-American war as China became fully involved or otherwise, N. Korwa does not last.

N.korea was fighting a civil war with s.korea. Amerika intervened and as you correctly point out it then became another proxy war.


N. Korea is still there because as usual, it was a war of attrition and after in excess of 36,000 US combat deaths and after Truman's dismissal of Mac when he wanted to continue north and lobbiedstrenuously for that, the American people were all done.

The Battle of Inchon (also Romanized as "Incheon;" Korean: 인천 상륙 작전 Incheon Sangryuk Jakjeon; code name: Operation Chromite) was a decisive invasion and battle during the Korean War, conceived and commanded by U.S. General of the Army Douglas MacArthur. It was deemed extremely risky, but today is considered one of the most successful military operations of modern times.

The Battle of Inchon reversed the near-total occupation of the peninsula by the invading North Korean People's Army (NKPA) and began a counterattack by UN forces that led to the recapture of Seoul.

After the Chinese entered the war, a stalemate generally ensued, resulting in the permanent division of the country into North and South near the 38th parallel.

HERE

HERE

In no source have I found any mention of Japanese troops used in any US or UN amphibious assault. Not Wiki, War Encyclopedia or History.com

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 3:09:22 PM   
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Now to say it's all a disaster is like...., which President can get all his promises done in like, less than a month?

Carter got an amnesty for Vietnam draft dodgers in place by the end of his third day on the job, iirc.



Speaking as someone who served in the military, I do not consider that a great accomplishment.

Yes the draft was unpopular, as was the war in Vietnam, and for all intents and purposes, the US should have stayed out of it.

But, considering how many men were drafted and went, even if they did not agree with the war, giving amnesty to the shit heads that dodged the draft was an insult to those who played the hand they were dealt and did not come back.

Just because you were drafted did not mean you were going infantry or into a combat unit.

And nobody is more valuable and thus better than some other poor bastard that went.

Hell, I would support the reinstatement of the draft now, with one major change, no exceptions for anyone unless they are physically or mentally unable to serve.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 3:25:25 PM   
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This actually isn't a Singapore problem.

When North Korea attacks. It's US that is one of their top targets that's for sure. You think they stocking all this stuffs up to attack Singapore? We are nothing to them. They want the big prize.

And I highly doubt US will Nuke them in response since North Korea holds alot of their own citizens as hostages and US ain't gonna kill a whole country of brainwashed innocent people.

They would then have to invade North Korea, like they did Iraq and take out their dictator.

And China will stay out of everything. And not get involved.

I am actually mentioning US not because I am trying to push a problem to them.

We fight our own battles with our own neighbours.

But with specifically North Korea. I definitely see them developing these things to be hostile specifically towards the US.

Why do you think they are developing long range missiles with the goal to reach the US soil?

Malaysia isn't in any danger as Malaysia is the only country in the world that allows North Korean to travel to their country without Visa. And has free trade with North Korea. But North Korea simply abused the status to test their weapons on one of their own.



Really? Since its creation, what war has Singapore fought?

And the post about what would happen if North Korea attacked the US is accurate. The US would blow the country to hell.


And you are wrong about nuking North Korea.

The US military policy is "We will not use Weapons of Mass destruction unless they are used on us first."

In very basic terms, since the US does not stockpile chemical or biologic agents, we would respond with nukes, and specifically targeting the capital.

You really need to take a look at US military policy.

And, if WMD's are used against us, there is not a country that would really make a big deal about a strategic or tactical nuclear response IF it were warranted.


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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 3:32:21 PM   
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I have read that hagiography in wiki before.
No discussion it was a bold and successful stroke. Followed up with a fiasco. The landing cost 8 lives and a few dozens of casualties. The ensuing manuever took about two miles a day. Compare that to some of the shit that zhuchov pulled off.
When the nazi took off for the baltic they they breached the defences and had a bridge head from which they were moving more than twenty miles a day against greater opposition.
Had dug out doug pressed his commanders to put their leg into it the war would have been over before christmas and before the chinese could react. Bold attack poor follow through....that is also in the history books.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 3:39:55 PM   
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Speaking as someone who served in the military, I do not consider that a great accomplishment.

In amerika what is your obligation? To honor the constitution or follow blindly the lies of korporate cocksuckers?

Yes the draft was unpopular, as was the war in Vietnam, and for all intents and purposes, the US should have stayed out of it.

If you agree that it was wrong of us to be there why would you expect any honest amerikian to support it.

But, considering how many men were drafted and went, even if they did not agree with the war, giving amnesty to the shit heads that dodged the draft was an insult to those who played the hand they were dealt and did not come back.


If someone is fool enough to play dodge ball on the freeway why is someone who does not a "shithead"?

Just because you were drafted did not mean you were going infantry or into a combat unit.

And nobody is more valuable and thus better than some other poor bastard that went.

Hell, I would support the reinstatement of the draft now, with one major change, no exceptions for anyone unless they are physically or mentally unable to serve.


I got a better idea...no one can be in the infantry unless they make more than a million dollars a year and are over 40.

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RE: Trump deserves zero respect - 2/26/2017 7:30:50 PM   
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I have read that hagiography in wiki before.
No discussion it was a bold and successful stroke. Followed up with a fiasco. The landing cost 8 lives and a few dozens of casualties. The ensuing manuever took about two miles a day. Compare that to some of the shit that zhuchov pulled off.
When the nazi took off for the baltic they they breached the defences and had a bridge head from which they were moving more than twenty miles a day against greater opposition.
Had dug out doug pressed his commanders to put their leg into it the war would have been over before christmas and before the chinese could react. Bold attack poor follow through....that is also in the history books.


OK, I'll take your word for it.

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