DaddySatyr
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Joined: 8/29/2011 From: Pittston, Pennsyltucky Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: jlf1961 First of all, in a criminal act such as this, I fail to see the logic in having probation as one of the sentencing options at all. Agreed. quote:
ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Second, I have a major problem with "age of consent" laws in every respect, since they are not set up in any way to protect any person with any kind of mental impairment that would protect such individuals. Not exactly correct. Most states have consent laws based entirely on the special conditions of mental impairment (being drunk, springs to mind). quote:
ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Third, on the point of religious affiliation, this 'Christian' did harm, at least emotionally, to the young men in question, bringing up the specter of the argument that those of the Christian faith do no grievous harm to anyone with justification. Maybe you worded this one wrong? I've read it four times and am not quite following. quote:
ORIGINAL: jlf1961 I would direct anyone who has read about this particular case to look at the activities of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, all 'good' Christians who practiced the fine Christian ideal of marrying under age girls to older men. Don't worry. Government has crept far enough into religion where if these people get caught, they pay the piper. Also, most older male members in the LDS are "Elders" which is a title which would invoke that "authority figure" stuff I mentioned, earlier. quote:
ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Now, back on the subject of age of consent laws. In some states, the age of consent is as low as fourteen, which, admittedly goes back to the historic fact that in past centuries, children were often married by that age. But when you look at the age of consent for sex, and compare it to the reasons the legal drinking age is 21 nationwide, you have to ask "If an 18 year old is not sufficiently mature enough to legally drink at 18, how then is a child up to four years younger sufficiently mature enough to make a decision about sex?" That also raises yet another question on the legal drinking age, that being, "If an 18 year old is mature enough to make the decision to enlist in the military at 18, why then is the same individual not allowed to buy alcohol?" There are many problems with the age limitations and the right of 'adult consent' that I see with many of these issues. And the rather broad and ambiguous term 'sufficiently mature' in every one of the laws. When you think about it, 18 is old enough to get married, have sex and to kill and die for his/her country, but they are not sufficiently mature enough to buy a beer. Everyone of those decisions require some mature thought. And while I have met some very mature acting teenagers, I can honestly say that for the most part, even 21 may be too young for almost all of the 'adult' decisions made by most of these kids. I have made the similar case on several threads and, actually been ridiculed for it (true story). quote:
ORIGINAL: jlf1961 As far as 'Christians' go, while the major news has been priests in the Catholic church, I would point out that 'youth ministers' (ordained ministers in charge of church youth programs) have abused many using their position. I have not looked deeply enough into this to either agree or disagree other than to fall back on that old saw about "a few rotten apples in every bunch", but certain "groups" do seem to attract people that are afflicted with certain types of anti-social behavior. Look up Franciscan Monks/Priests. My guess is you'll find some eye-opening shit. Michael
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