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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 1:58:23 PM

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Many to most men who want no strings would happily interact with their play partners in other ways. Me for example, I do stuff like get drunk/stoned, watch movies/tv shows, go out to dinners/lunches etc etc with women who I casually play with.

This amazes me.

I had no idea that you were capable of anything besides complaining about how women have it so easy and men have it so hard. I honestly thought that when you're not on this site making threads about it, you probably have a men's rights blog for which you write daily 5000 word essays. Oh, and then I imagined you also probably jerk off to genres of porn most people don't even know about during your 5 minute breaks.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 2:16:03 PM

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Many to most men who want no strings would happily interact with their play partners in other ways. Me for example, I do stuff like get drunk/stoned, watch movies/tv shows, go out to dinners/lunches etc etc with women who I casually play with.

This amazes me.

I had no idea that you were capable of anything besides complaining about how women have it so easy and men have it so hard. I honestly thought that when you're not on this site making threads about it, you probably have a men's rights blog for which you write daily 5000 word essays. Oh, and then I imagined you also probably jerk off to genres of porn most people don't even know about during your 5 minute breaks.

Ha ha ha ha! Exactly.

Figures that the only women who will hang out with him are women who are drunk or high.

I blocked both Tweedledee and Tweedledum.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 2:16:05 PM

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You're amazed that he likes to eat, get high/drunk, and watch tv? That be a low bar you're setting

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 2:29:41 PM

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You're amazed that he likes to eat, get high/drunk, and watch tv? That be a low bar you're setting

Perhaps more amazed that he's able to find people with whom to share those activities. It's incredibly likely that being impaired, and having the required substances to induce impairment provided by Nicky, is the only way they're able to tolerate his company.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 3:38:03 PM

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Me for example, I do stuff like get drunk/stoned

Well, that right there explains all the cock waffling you do, why you make no sense in the real world at all, and why you can not grasp the concept of the fact that woman do not have to interact with men any further than what they are being paid to do, the fact that YOU CONSTANTLY IGNORE THAT MEN ALSO DO THIS WITH WOMEN WHEN BEING PAID! that men do NOT have to pay for anything, and if they want more they need to act like a fucking human in the first place, plus there is a MASSIVE difference between bringing up your kinks EARLY in a conversation, and it being your OPENING line, and then expecting the woman to treat you any differently than they would if you'd done that face to face in real life.

You're right that some of us women do like NSA, however, we don't all go for the bullshit that I've stated the guys do. Now here's a good kick in your theory for you though, if any woman did approach a guy in the way that these guys approach us, then I'd have no issue in him treating her in exactly the way that I treat these guys. It's a douche move whichever sex it comes from, but you can't see that because you are so female hating orientated.

I notice that yet again you resort to your usual abusive, weak, and pathetic type. That is a real yawn fest for sure.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 5:22:05 PM

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It's you who is making no sense when you bloody expect people not to approach you with a conversation about BDSM on fucking BDSM website!

Jesus some people are thick. If you are on a website about cars, what do you think people will be wanting to talk about? Fucking cars!

If you don't want people to approach you with a conversation about BDSM, I suggest you hang in a non BDSM site. See how easy it is to solve your little problem that you crack a hissy fit over?

Its so incredibly stupid to expect someone to not approach you with a conversation about BDSM on a BDSM website.

No, I don't mean wanna fuck or be my mistress...I have gone over that.

You really fucking need to stop being so predijuce and phobic against male sexuality. If it frightens you so much, turn lesbian for fucks sake.

It's your fear that is the problem, not men being different to women. Men deal with their sexuality different to women, men proirtise their sexual desires different compared to women.

It's you that hasn't got an understanding about human interaction if you can't fucking understand that men aren't women.

Stop expecting men to act and be like women. Then we would all get along a lot better.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 5:23:22 PM

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You need to stop thinking that everything should work in a female centered point of view and realise that females aren't the only gender.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 6:16:38 PM

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It should be stated that humans run a full and complex sexual/social gamet. Therefor you are all correct. I would like some advice about a difficult sub

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 6:27:14 PM

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Is there anything more than the "men are asses" and "women are bloodsuckers" being discussed? W
How about how to help a difficult sub?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 7:51:51 PM

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Is there anything more than the "men are asses" and "women are bloodsuckers" being discussed? W
How about how to help a difficult sub?

What do you mean by 'difficult'?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 8:04:08 PM

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"If he's willing to pay for it, and she's selling it, then that's all there is to it. It's just as much a trade of business as any other business deal. She does not owe him any emotional investment to go with that. She does not owe him a discount. She does not owe him a freebie, an offer if he pays for so many sessions."

I agree with you. The Pro-Domme does not owe his client any emotional investment, relationship, discount, freebie, etc. So when she does give him emotional investment I assume she is being authentic. It would be the same thing if one goes to the same massage therapist and the massage therapist acts as if it's a emotional relationship. And the client believes it. So the client is seeing her week after week believing it's a meaningful and authentic relationship. And then she raised her price and if he won't pay it then - fuck off. Don't you think this is deceptive?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 8:13:56 PM

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It should be stated that humans run a full and complex sexual/social gamet. Therefor you are all correct. I would like some advice about a difficult sub

Yes, I'm in agreement with this. There is a huge difference between male sexuality compared to female sexuality. It's bleedingly obvious that a male generally classifies his sexual desires at a higher level of importance compared to women in general. Therefore, on a BDSM site, men are likely wanting to know the sexual compatibility with someone at an earlier stage compared to women in general.

Many women here refuse to understand these differences and complexities. A male could be willing to have a loving relationship but he would more likely be interested to know the sexual compatibility before the woman does. This is where the confusion sets in. He's evil, he doesn't see women as human beings etc etc simply because the said male isn't doing it how a woman does it.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 8:19:25 PM

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"If he's willing to pay for it, and she's selling it, then that's all there is to it. It's just as much a trade of business as any other business deal. She does not owe him any emotional investment to go with that. She does not owe him a discount. She does not owe him a freebie, an offer if he pays for so many sessions."

I agree with you. The Pro-Domme does not owe his client any emotional investment, relationship, discount, freebie, etc. So when she does give him emotional investment I assume she is being authentic. It would be the same thing if one goes to the same massage therapist and the massage therapist acts as if it's a emotional relationship. And the client believes it. So the client is seeing her week after week believing it's a meaningful and authentic relationship. And then she raised her price and if he won't pay it then - fuck off. Don't you think this is deceptive?

This is where the hypocrisy sets in where people try to make every excuse under the sun for it. If it's okay for dommes to only use men as a financial system on the terms that the male agreed to it. Why then is it wrong for a male to seek a fetish delivery system with women who agree with it?

Why does it excuse the pro domme if they seek play partners that agree to the deal but it does not excuse a man seeking women tjat agree with the fetish delivery system deal?

A logical person would think if one thing excuses one person, why not should it excuse others?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 11:35:21 PM

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Other hypocrisy point.

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Woman do not have to interact with men any further than what they are being paid to do

Why doesn't that excuse pass for a male who just wants casual fun? Why should they be obligated to commit to a life long relationship simply because they want some fun?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 11:51:06 PM

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Why doesn't that excuse pass for a male who just wants casual fun? Why should they be obligated to commit to a life long relationship simply because they want some fun?

They're not. Imagine that.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/22/2017 11:56:41 PM

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This is where the hypocrisy sets in where people try to make every excuse under the sun for it. If it's okay for dommes to only use men as a financial system on the terms that the male agreed to it. Why then is it wrong for a male to seek a fetish delivery system with women who agree with it?

Why does it excuse the pro domme if they seek play partners that agree to the deal but it does not excuse a man seeking women tjat agree with the fetish delivery system deal?

A logical person would think if one thing excuses one person, why not should it excuse others?

The women on here who don't like the idea of being a fetish delivery system are the ones who are saying that they don't like being a fetish delivery system.

The women on here who like the idea of being a fetish delivery system are the ones who are saying that they like being a fetish delivery system (except there don't seem to be any).

For fuck's sakes, why is this difficult to grasp?

People don't have to do what you want them to do simply because you think it's more 'fair' that way.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/23/2017 12:21:37 AM

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It would be the same thing if one goes to the same massage therapist and the massage therapist acts as if it's a emotional relationship. And the client believes it. So the client is seeing her week after week believing it's a meaningful and authentic relationship. And then she raised her price and if he won't pay it then - fuck off. Don't you think this is deceptive?

Wow. Talk about delusions. I beg you to please stay away from the girls at Massage Envy. Major creep alert!

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/23/2017 12:29:41 AM

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They're not. Imagine that.

Wow really? So no more being accused of disrespecting women, not treating women as human beings, only wanting to use women etc etc?

Men are finally free from prejudice at last.

HB

Yes I know all of that but what you aren't realising or you do realise and don't care is the ridiculous hypocrisy that's been pointed out.

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People don't have to do what you want them to do simply because you think it's more 'fair' that way.

I never claimed that they did, people certainly apply this to men though.

Anyway, speaking of hypocrisy, let's go for another round of pointing out the crazy hypocrisy.

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Figures that the only women who will hang out with him are women who are drunk or high.

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Perhaps more amazed that he's able to find people with whom to share those activities. It's incredibly likely that being impaired, and having the required substances to induce impairment provided by Nicky, is the only way they're able to tolerate his company.

So all of this is said about me simply because I criticise women/feminism. Yet all Lisa has done on this site is bash the flying fuck out of men. Her profile is male bashing, every single thing she has said in these forums has been male bashing. But of course this same standard put on me doesn't apply to Lisa. Lisa get's given a pass because she's a woman.

Gotta love female privilege.

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/23/2017 12:58:32 AM

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I agree with you. The Pro-Domme does not owe his client any emotional investment, relationship, discount, freebie, etc. So when she does give him emotional investment I assume she is being authentic. It would be the same thing if one goes to the same massage therapist and the massage therapist acts as if it's a emotional relationship. And the client believes it. So the client is seeing her week after week believing it's a meaningful and authentic relationship. And then she raised her price and if he won't pay it then - fuck off. Don't you think this is deceptive?

Nothing in the original post indicated that there was an emotional investment. The OP was asked if the woman enjoyed the oral gratification during sessions. She may have. She may not. She may have just been pretending to have orgasms and be 'pleased' because she thought that was the response that the client wanted.

Why would the client believe it's an emotional relationship if the business transaction has always been in place? Do they spend time together in the non-professional setting? That massage therapist that you mention? That person has a financial stake in a thing called customer retention. So does the waitstaff at your local restaurant, your real estate agent, or your florist benefit from you thinking they enjoy your company while they are transacting business? They are friendly to you because it's a part of the job.

Would it be my hair dressers fault if a price increase was necessary but I felt betrayed because I thought she 'cared' about me, so the price shouldn't go up or if I didn't want to pay the new rate that she wouldn't still do my hair? Just because she's friendly to me during my time at the salon, is it her fault or mine if I deluded myself about the true nature of our interactions?

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RE: Don't They Enjoy It? - 3/23/2017 3:59:15 AM

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This is where the hypocrisy sets in where people try to make every excuse under the sun for it. If it's okay for dommes to only use men as a financial system on the terms that the male agreed to it. Why then is it wrong for a male to seek a fetish delivery system with women who agree with it?

Why does it excuse the pro domme if they seek play partners that agree to the deal but it does not excuse a man seeking women tjat agree with the fetish delivery system deal?

A logical person would think if one thing excuses one person, why not should it excuse others?

The women on here who don't like the idea of being a fetish delivery system are the ones who are saying that they don't like being a fetish delivery system.

The women on here who like the idea of being a fetish delivery system are the ones who are saying that they like being a fetish delivery system (except there don't seem to be any).

For fuck's sakes, why is this difficult to grasp?

People don't have to do what you want them to do simply because you think it's more 'fair' that way.

This guy reminds me of rapists in court who claim,"The woman was asking for it by being there" as a defense.

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