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NoirMetal -> inferior? (3/24/2017 8:11:06 AM)

So tell me why a Top would want a person who described themselves this way?

Is it a staid stereotype-or don't they know Tops realize a wounded bird is a sucking black hole you will never find the bottom of?

Or is it just code for seeking a pro?




BitaTruble -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 8:32:39 AM)

Target practice...because inferior does not necessarily equal wounded.




WickedsDesire -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 10:26:35 AM)

I loathe all stereotypes, some I even view as outright danger5ous – A bit like your profile (IMO)which I have just read, well your writings. I wont deny I enter God mode from time to time but that is something entirely different.

DANGER 5 - Colonel Chestbridge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zaHLhj8jjA


There are many variants of answers to your question here are two:

1. It can be used as a way of someone marking his/her territory as alpha wolf, reinforcing a bland wrongly perceived stereotype. They may not actually be an “Alpha” Dom etc – or adopt that persona occasionally, or online for some nice titty pictures, and so on
2. Some people like feeling inferior, cum dumpsters, abused, objects, relinquishing control, to be controlled, crushed of spirit, and so on.

I have toyed over the epochs of writing/retaining a purely Dom/M profile but it rarely lasts. but to me the other soul must be able to see all parts of the spectrum/rainbows...or at least be aware of..if not they are forever lost, or dommed, or caught in an endless cycle - imprisoned by their own limitations or absolute design. I am not saying the odd one doesn't tempt me.




needlesandpins -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 10:55:35 AM)

There are lots of things that I think misrepresent what a person sometimes labels their self as. I also think that sometimes what a person states they seek is not a true representation of a whole person, and again this is directed by the porn they watch, or the smut they read. People forget that the fantasies they have micro managed in their heads can not be managed as such in real life.

What I am with one person can be very different to what I will be with another. A prime example of that is that my ex would have told anyone that I was a Domme, but that's because I simply didn't trust him enough to give him any submission. In truth I'm a switch, and having had my ex playmate to explore that with, I really don't want to go back to holding myself back.

Being inferior may not really mean that you think you are, or that you want to be treated that way, but what I have seen is some people that want to give up all responsibility of adulting. These people label themselves as subs, or slaves, want to relocate, move in, be looked after, and already look as though they have nothing to contribute. That's not to say all people offering this particular little nugget, because all are different, but just an observation of some, and not all men either.

As for being broken, you either own that and don't let it control you whole life, or you allow it be your crutch for all the crap you do, thus allowing it to define the person you are.

Needles




WickedsDesire -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 11:21:48 AM)

fine answer needles x One cannot own or control broken chaos, nor non broken chaos would be the only thing i have to that..further arguments can be made there is an allure in certain bits of absolute infinity...and further arguments can be made all things whole must be broken for it excites me - you have a reasonable handle on what I am




WhoreMods -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 11:44:34 AM)

How inferior is Peter Shelly?
He's had a homo superior in his interior...
(Fucker can't dress, mind you...)




LisaSadistic -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 2:26:02 PM)

I see it as they're fantasists looking to fulfill a certain fantasy, purely within the confines of the bedroom. I don't take it seriously at all and it also doesn't appeal to me. It's definitely a scene based fantasy and nothing more than that. It's also putting the cart before the horse because it's assuming a D/s dynamic even before another human being is present. It doesn't interest me at all because I want to be approached as a human being, on an equal level, not as someone's fantasy, and when someone submits to me I want him to submit to ME, not to an image in his head. I don't want to be any generic woman who can be filled into the "superior woman" slot.


Oops, meant to reply to OP




DesFIP -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 5:24:16 PM)

Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.
Same thing with dudes who say they want to be a cd and humiliated for it. If they didn't believe women were lesser, they wouldn't feel that looking like one was humiliating.

And the forced bi stuff, homophobia.

Then they get pissy when no woman wants them, after they're clear how they look down on women.




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 6:55:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

fine answer needles x One cannot own or control broken chaos, nor non broken chaos would be the only thing i have to that..further arguments can be made there is an allure in certain bits of absolute infinity...and further arguments can be made all things whole must be broken for it excites me - you have a reasonable handle on what I am

Exactly. You cannot own something that is insistent on staying broken. I'm actually very sensitive to energy. So much so that an individual who cannot find peace with themselves and the past is like constant roaring static to me.

Did you masochist filter upset you?

LOL.




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 6:59:12 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic

I see it as they're fantasists looking to fulfill a certain fantasy, purely within the confines of the bedroom. I don't take it seriously at all and it also doesn't appeal to me. It's definitely a scene based fantasy and nothing more than that. It's also putting the cart before the horse because it's assuming a D/s dynamic even before another human being is present. It doesn't interest me at all because I want to be approached as a human being, on an equal level, not as someone's fantasy, and when someone submits to me I want him to submit to ME, not to an image in his head. I don't want to be any generic woman who can be filled into the "superior woman" slot.


Oops, meant to reply to OP

Does inferior imply ease of use and malleability in minds that use this sort of a cliche? It usually means"Denser than Lead" in my mind.

A truly masochistic training exercise on the part of any top silly enough to take on the enterprise!

But i think I would also be taken aback by any individual who just arrived and said,"Here I am,I belong to you now!"




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 7:05:31 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

There are lots of things that I think misrepresent what a person sometimes labels their self as. I also think that sometimes what a person states they seek is not a true representation of a whole person, and again this is directed by the porn they watch, or the smut they read. People forget that the fantasies they have micro managed in their heads can not be managed as such in real life.

What I am with one person can be very different to what I will be with another. A prime example of that is that my ex would have told anyone that I was a Domme, but that's because I simply didn't trust him enough to give him any submission. In truth I'm a switch, and having had my ex playmate to explore that with, I really don't want to go back to holding myself back.

Being inferior may not really mean that you think you are, or that you want to be treated that way, but what I have seen is some people that want to give up all responsibility of adulting. These people label themselves as subs, or slaves, want to relocate, move in, be looked after, and already look as though they have nothing to contribute. That's not to say all people offering this particular little nugget, because all are different, but just an observation of some, and not all men either.

As for being broken, you either own that and don't let it control you whole life, or you allow it be your crutch for all the crap you do, thus allowing it to define the person you are.

Needles

We have at least one fine example of a wounded bird who squawks about here of late. The bird SO unloved by women. Don't let it in the house,it will leave a mess. Unfortunately, many people who come from a back ground of dysfunctional parents with overbearing and abusive personalities seem to want to perpetuate that cycle with subsequent romantic partners-because mommy for real would doubtless cut it off if he tried it with her.

I don't want that in the house either-it's not who I am.




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 7:15:46 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.
Same thing with dudes who say they want to be a cd and humiliated for it. If they didn't believe women were lesser, they wouldn't feel that looking like one was humiliating.

And the forced bi stuff, homophobia.

Then they get pissy when no woman wants them, after they're clear how they look down on women.

This is a big confining issue for sissies too. Especially when they go to a woman looking for "forced feminization" How insulting can you get? Better charge four times as much. Its a bit like a racist white guy going to a black neighborhood and asking to be paint dipped, and forced to eat watermelon. We know how well that would go over.




KnightofMists -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 7:20:58 PM)

Frankly... what does it matter? I am more interested in understanding my preferences and needs with regards to a partner.




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/24/2017 7:27:24 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Frankly... what does it matter? I am more interested in understanding my preferences and needs with regards to a partner.

It's an entertainment thread. I faced boredom. I wonder about strange dynamics a lot-I enjoy twisted psychology.




Leonidas104 -> RE: inferior? (3/25/2017 10:44:25 AM)

First question that comes to my mind is why do you care? If you dont appreciate people who describe themselves that way, dont talk to them. Projecting your own inability to enjoy someone who describes themselves that way onto others is more than a little narcissistic. Isnt it sufficient to just say "pass", instead of trying to impress us all with how worldly wise you are in the way of the Top?




MissKatya -> RE: inferior? (3/25/2017 11:03:59 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.
Same thing with dudes who say they want to be a cd and humiliated for it. If they didn't believe women were lesser, they wouldn't feel that looking like one was humiliating.

And the forced bi stuff, homophobia.

Then they get pissy when no woman wants them, after they're clear how they look down on women.



Nailed it.




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/25/2017 6:48:39 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Leonidas104

First question that comes to my mind is why do you care? If you dont appreciate people who describe themselves that way, dont talk to them. Projecting your own inability to enjoy someone who describes themselves that way onto others is more than a little narcissistic. Isnt it sufficient to just say "pass", instead of trying to impress us all with how worldly wise you are in the way of the Top?

That's not really it.

I've seen it enough to be curious about the actual motivation to do it. I've also been lead along by women who didn't let on about it initially. And I missed it. I'm not that worldly-I need more education.




heavyblinker -> RE: inferior? (3/25/2017 7:11:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.


Why wouldn't someone who thought of themselves as inferior want to submit to someone who considers themselves superior? They're supposed to be an equal submitting to an equal in the name of equality?




Gunshow -> RE: inferior? (3/26/2017 12:40:32 AM)

Yep, superior and inferior are a very close analogy to top and bottom. Seems like an odd complaint, Noir. Got any other pet peeves?




NoirMetal -> RE: inferior? (3/26/2017 5:18:13 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gunshow

Yep, superior and inferior are a very close analogy to top and bottom. Seems like an odd complaint, Noir. Got any other pet peeves?

You would need to have been there to understand I guess.




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