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ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

fine answer needles x One cannot own or control broken chaos, nor non broken chaos would be the only thing i have to that..further arguments can be made there is an allure in certain bits of absolute infinity...and further arguments can be made all things whole must be broken for it excites me - you have a reasonable handle on what I am

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ORIGINAL: LisaSadistic

I see it as they're fantasists looking to fulfill a certain fantasy, purely within the confines of the bedroom. I don't take it seriously at all and it also doesn't appeal to me. It's definitely a scene based fantasy and nothing more than that. It's also putting the cart before the horse because it's assuming a D/s dynamic even before another human being is present. It doesn't interest me at all because I want to be approached as a human being, on an equal level, not as someone's fantasy, and when someone submits to me I want him to submit to ME, not to an image in his head. I don't want to be any generic woman who can be filled into the "superior woman" slot.


Oops, meant to reply to OP

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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins

There are lots of things that I think misrepresent what a person sometimes labels their self as. I also think that sometimes what a person states they seek is not a true representation of a whole person, and again this is directed by the porn they watch, or the smut they read. People forget that the fantasies they have micro managed in their heads can not be managed as such in real life.

What I am with one person can be very different to what I will be with another. A prime example of that is that my ex would have told anyone that I was a Domme, but that's because I simply didn't trust him enough to give him any submission. In truth I'm a switch, and having had my ex playmate to explore that with, I really don't want to go back to holding myself back.

Being inferior may not really mean that you think you are, or that you want to be treated that way, but what I have seen is some people that want to give up all responsibility of adulting. These people label themselves as subs, or slaves, want to relocate, move in, be looked after, and already look as though they have nothing to contribute. That's not to say all people offering this particular little nugget, because all are different, but just an observation of some, and not all men either.

As for being broken, you either own that and don't let it control you whole life, or you allow it be your crutch for all the crap you do, thus allowing it to define the person you are.

Needles

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.
Same thing with dudes who say they want to be a cd and humiliated for it. If they didn't believe women were lesser, they wouldn't feel that looking like one was humiliating.

And the forced bi stuff, homophobia.

Then they get pissy when no woman wants them, after they're clear how they look down on women.

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ORIGINAL: KnightofMists

Frankly... what does it matter? I am more interested in understanding my preferences and needs with regards to a partner.

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP

Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.
Same thing with dudes who say they want to be a cd and humiliated for it. If they didn't believe women were lesser, they wouldn't feel that looking like one was humiliating.

And the forced bi stuff, homophobia.

Then they get pissy when no woman wants them, after they're clear how they look down on women.

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ORIGINAL: Leonidas104

First question that comes to my mind is why do you care? If you dont appreciate people who describe themselves that way, dont talk to them. Projecting your own inability to enjoy someone who describes themselves that way onto others is more than a little narcissistic. Isnt it sufficient to just say "pass", instead of trying to impress us all with how worldly wise you are in the way of the Top?

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
Porn. Porn shows male subs doing this lowly worm schtick. As to why, it shows a certain amount of misogyny. After all, they have to be inferior to submit to a woman, because they believe normally women are inferior.

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ORIGINAL: Gunshow

Yep, superior and inferior are a very close analogy to top and bottom. Seems like an odd complaint, Noir. Got any other pet peeves?