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BoscoX -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/22/2017 7:12:51 AM)

Trapped in a socialist state, where socialists have 'fixed" all of the "problems" caused by capitalism

The absolute horror

Seriously

[image]http://i2.cdn.turner.com/money/dam/assets/170419170128-05-venezuela-protests-0419-1024x576.jpg[/image]




Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/22/2017 8:17:31 AM)

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.




vincentML -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/22/2017 9:59:19 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?




MercTech -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 1:21:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Leftists seized the oil supply in the oil-rich country of Venezuela

From whom did they seize it?



The Chavez government seized the oil fields from the companies that had a contract to develop it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-nationalizations-idUSBRE89701X20121008




vincentML -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 7:02:55 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Leftists seized the oil supply in the oil-rich country of Venezuela

From whom did they seize it?



The Chavez government seized the oil fields from the companies that had a contract to develop it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-nationalizations-idUSBRE89701X20121008

So, companies were compensated. Some "seizures" were percentage stakes, and some were luxury taxes. What's your beef? Contracts were broken. The companies went to arbitration and won.

Did Venezuela control the world price of oil which went from $147/barrel 2008 to $40/barrel in 2012? Poor timing for Chavez, a blessing for the oil companies who were relieved of the burdens of costly rigs and employees.

It is often been the case that the original contracts were extracted at the point of a gun from a weakened nation by a more powerful nation. Under pretense of legal contracts, GB and US stole oil that belonged to the people and achieved the theft by enriching local chieftains. Let's not suddenly pretend the history of these transactions were beneficial to the indigenous people. The usual Western hogwash right up there with forcing China to open its markets to British opium. You people are really gullible.




BoscoX -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 9:00:02 AM)


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ORIGINAL: MercTech


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ORIGINAL: thompsonx


ORIGINAL: BoscoX

Leftists seized the oil supply in the oil-rich country of Venezuela

From whom did they seize it?



The Chavez government seized the oil fields from the companies that had a contract to develop it.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-election-nationalizations-idUSBRE89701X20121008


They seized farms from landowners then divided what they stole among the poor, now many there starve

Same sort of thing you see every time with that ideology, yet people refuse to learn

"Viva la revolution"






Edwird -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 9:09:59 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

https://amgreatness.com/2017/04/18/fundamentalist-nihilism/

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At some point, progressivism begins to collapse by the weight of its own internal contradictions and becomes faith-based. Future anthropologists will have a difficult time sorting out all the bizarre rituals and sacraments of this early 21st-century progressive cult.



I can't say that I am fundamentally surprised that you are this fundamentally stupid and so deeply unsound of mind.

Wake up, child.

What matters in this world is how much various fundamentalists are well funded.

That's the only fundamentalism that matters.

Note the juxtaposition of 'fund' and 'a-mentalism' (non-mentalism), there.

That was Reagan from the get-go.


That was amentalism funded by GE and Boraxo twenty mule team laundry detergent.
Though later he got much bigger sponsors.

After he fell flat on his stupid face in '76, a lot of funders said "That's our boy!" and the money piled in afterwards.




Edwird -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 9:42:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bounty44

its been studied, and mentioned here before, that left and right enjoy different kinds of music and watch different shows on tv.


It's been studied and the studies have ascertained that the far right's mental capacity is often expressed as the mental equivalent of nursery rhyme music as played on a cheap import electric guitar at 110 dB on a cheap solid state amp.

Or are you saying that Bach and Brahms and Erik Satie and Charlie Mingus and Antonio Carlos Jobim are 'fundamentalists' too?

Well damn.

Oh well, as you say, there are differences.

Here's something more to the taste and mental capacity, not to mention natural inclination of your side:

Simon Says






Musicmystery -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 10:21:59 AM)

It's OK. Our good buddies the Russians are a good socialist state. Not like those leftist ones.




vincentML -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 11:29:22 AM)

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They seized farms from landowners then divided what they stole among the poor, now many there starve

Of course the share croppers were happy lil chillun singing and dancing and living a carefree life under the generous heel of the Mastah Bossman.

The same age old defense for the slavery of people of color. Good Gawd, don't you ever tire of peddling that line of smelly fish? The white landowners were paternalistic and benevolent to their workers. Uh huh [8|]




Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 12:32:17 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Edwird

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

https://amgreatness.com/2017/04/18/fundamentalist-nihilism/

quote:

At some point, progressivism begins to collapse by the weight of its own internal contradictions and becomes faith-based. Future anthropologists will have a difficult time sorting out all the bizarre rituals and sacraments of this early 21st-century progressive cult.



I can't say that I am fundamentally surprised that you are this fundamentally stupid and so deeply unsound of mind.

Wake up, child.

What matters in this world is how much various fundamentalists are well funded.

That's the only fundamentalism that matters.

Note the juxtaposition of 'fund' and 'a-mentalism' (non-mentalism), there.

That was Reagan from the get-go.


That was amentalism funded by GE and Boraxo twenty mule team laundry detergent.
Though later he got much bigger sponsors.

After he fell flat on his stupid face in '76, a lot of funders said "That's our boy!" and the money piled in afterwards.


LMAO, you really do think that when you get off the short bus and come here that people actually listen to you and worship your wisdom. That has got to be one of the funniest things I've heard in a while.




BoscoX -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 12:37:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML

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They seized farms from landowners then divided what they stole among the poor, now many there starve

Of course the share croppers were happy lil chillun singing and dancing and living a carefree life under the generous heel of the Mastah Bossman.

The same age old defense for the slavery of people of color. Good Gawd, don't you ever tire of peddling that line of smelly fish? The white landowners were paternalistic and benevolent to their workers. Uh huh [8|]


Under capitalism, they got to eat. Now that they have been blessed with socialism, they just want to go anywhere else

Venezuela needs walls to keep them in while we capitalists need walls to keep them out

Due to their own bad decisions




Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 12:48:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html




mnottertail -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 12:52:18 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

and when the lost that control to a dictator that is when their problems started.




mnottertail -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 12:54:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.




Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 1:25:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.

Spoken as a true fellow traveler. And, I believe you believe it.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 2:28:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.

Spoken as a true fellow traveler. And, I believe you believe it.


so sayeth the lazy,wasteful capitalist poster boi for Chinese Billionaires. and of course his untrusty sidekick boss-hoe who cant cite anything other than the con-elephant crap it's been sucking on today.

So tell Me u two.... why, if ur capitalism is SOOOOO marvelous, and EVERYONE SOOOO benefits from it, is that throughout history there always seems to occur a "let them eat cake" moment that makes the capitalists (or whatever u wanna call them, - right-wingers, conservatives, etc.....) the target of socialism?? (or other political systems.)

Why do capitalists get so "fat", bloated, stupidly inefficient, morally & financially corrupt, single minded, and so lose touch with their underclasses & workforces that other political systems like socialism have an relatively easy sell of a better way of life?

Why do capitalists trample the very people who make them their profits to the point where the underclasses & workforces rise up and take control?

(this ought to be good.....)






Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 3:00:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.

Spoken as a true fellow traveler. And, I believe you believe it.


so sayeth the lazy,wasteful capitalist poster boi for Chinese Billionaires. and of course his untrusty sidekick boss-hoe who cant cite anything other than the con-elephant crap it's been sucking on today.

So tell Me u two.... why, if ur capitalism is SOOOOO marvelous, and EVERYONE SOOOO benefits from it, is that throughout history there always seems to occur a "let them eat cake" moment that makes the capitalists (or whatever u wanna call them, - right-wingers, conservatives, etc.....) the target of socialism?? (or other political systems.)

Why do capitalists get so "fat", bloated, stupidly inefficient, morally & financially corrupt, single minded, and so lose touch with their underclasses & workforces that other political systems like socialism have an relatively easy sell of a better way of life?

Why do capitalists trample the very people who make them their profits to the point where the underclasses & workforces rise up and take control?

(this ought to be good.....)




Oh look who showed up. How are you spanky. It's the racist that likes to believe he knows what he's talking about...but unfortunately doesn't know just how ignint he is.

Well let's see spanky. Let them eat cake was a monarchy, but you wouldn't understand that. If you look around and see which countries actually eat well, go to the doctor, live long and prosper, that will be your free market countries. I don't expect you to understand that spanky.

And Spanky, I thought you'd be greatful to a free market economy. It got you out of the ghetto....well partly. You probably realize that you're an affirmative action case and aren't really greatful for that 18-month education and a job as a draftsman.




itsSIRtou -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 3:13:50 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.

Spoken as a true fellow traveler. And, I believe you believe it.


so sayeth the lazy,wasteful capitalist poster boi for Chinese Billionaires. and of course his untrusty sidekick boss-hoe who cant cite anything other than the con-elephant crap it's been sucking on today.

So tell Me u two.... why, if ur capitalism is SOOOOO marvelous, and EVERYONE SOOOO benefits from it, is that throughout history there always seems to occur a "let them eat cake" moment that makes the capitalists (or whatever u wanna call them, - right-wingers, conservatives, etc.....) the target of socialism?? (or other political systems.)

Why do capitalists get so "fat", bloated, stupidly inefficient, morally & financially corrupt, single minded, and so lose touch with their underclasses & workforces that other political systems like socialism have an relatively easy sell of a better way of life?

Why do capitalists trample the very people who make them their profits to the point where the underclasses & workforces rise up and take control?

(this ought to be good.....)




Oh look who showed up. How are you spanky. It's the racist that likes to believe he knows what he's talking about...but unfortunately doesn't know just how ignint he is.

Well let's see spanky. Let them eat cake was a monarchy, but you wouldn't understand that. If you look around and see which countries actually eat well, go to the doctor, live long and prosper, that will be your free market countries. I don't expect you to understand that spanky.


dumb as a post are ya..... evidently u didn't understand the actual question. Or hit a little close to home did it?

, if Im so such, why cant u answer a direct question? maybe ur the "ignint" one, (see? I didn't make a joke out of ur spelling dysfunction!!)

thanks for not answering the actual question, but that's normal for u. Chinese poster boi.

Next.




Nnanji -> RE: Leftist Fundamentalism (4/23/2017 3:16:47 PM)


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou


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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: itsSIRtou

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ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji


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ORIGINAL: vincentML


quote:

ORIGINAL: Nnanji

I'm convinced now. It's all capatalisms fault. The 18 years socialists had total control of Venezuela just wasn't enough to halt the evil tides of capatalism.

I never said that. Pretty sad when your argument is so weak you have to invent straw men. Venezuelans never had control of the price of oil, did they? World markets, and all that. How many times has the American economy caved before erratic commodities markets? Care to ignore that little bit of history, heh?

It wasn't an argument. It was sarcasm.

The sarcasm was involved because socialists can never admit socialism always fails. It's always some other reason things are bad.



http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-02-20/oil-didnt-wreck-venezuelas-economy-socialism-did

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2015-08-27/how-hugo-chavez-trashed-latin-america-s-richest-economy

Who is the richest person in Venezuela?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/08/10/hugo-chavez-daughter-is-richest-individual-in-venezuela-report-claims.html

Well, its very poor sarcasm, socialism never fails. (at least real socialism as it is practiced correctly). Venezuela is not a socialist country. Look to the Nordic countries for the closest thing that exists to socialism on the planet, capitalism is a low to middle roader in the world systems. It aint no superstar.

Spoken as a true fellow traveler. And, I believe you believe it.


so sayeth the lazy,wasteful capitalist poster boi for Chinese Billionaires. and of course his untrusty sidekick boss-hoe who cant cite anything other than the con-elephant crap it's been sucking on today.

So tell Me u two.... why, if ur capitalism is SOOOOO marvelous, and EVERYONE SOOOO benefits from it, is that throughout history there always seems to occur a "let them eat cake" moment that makes the capitalists (or whatever u wanna call them, - right-wingers, conservatives, etc.....) the target of socialism?? (or other political systems.)

Why do capitalists get so "fat", bloated, stupidly inefficient, morally & financially corrupt, single minded, and so lose touch with their underclasses & workforces that other political systems like socialism have an relatively easy sell of a better way of life?

Why do capitalists trample the very people who make them their profits to the point where the underclasses & workforces rise up and take control?

(this ought to be good.....)




Oh look who showed up. How are you spanky. It's the racist that likes to believe he knows what he's talking about...but unfortunately doesn't know just how ignint he is.

Well let's see spanky. Let them eat cake was a monarchy, but you wouldn't understand that. If you look around and see which countries actually eat well, go to the doctor, live long and prosper, that will be your free market countries. I don't expect you to understand that spanky.


dumb as a post are ya..... evidently u didn't understand the actual question. hit a little close to home did it?

thanks for not answering the actual question, but that's normal for u. poster boi.

Next.


Oh wait....you think that you ask questions and I line up to answer them...hahahahahahahahahahahah [sm=happy-smiley58.gif][sm=happy-smiley58.gif][sm=happy-smiley58.gif][sm=happy-smiley58.gif]




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