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UllrsIshtar -> RE: Very Painful but safe and easy to do torture ? (4/20/2017 1:03:16 PM)
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ORIGINAL: dartveter
Hello everyone, i'm currently trying to gather some information about some very painful, but safe (no permanent body damage) and easy to do (like with tools/products that are easly found).
I have a lovely girl that likes the idea of very painful torture, always telling me to "Step up my game", now I have some ideas, and looked a bit over the internet to find some painful things to do, like putting hand in frozen water for an extanded period of time till it hurts, rubing wounds with salt and all that, but she always wants more, so I'd like to say I'm not perfect and I don't have the absolute Knowledge so I'm seeking some help from you lovely people.
I'd like to test your suggestions on myself first to see if it's good enough, please keep in mind the "safe" part, thank you.
You'll have to define 'no permanent body damage' because one of your suggestions, salt in a wound, has the potential to leave scarring.
If the chance at light scarring isn't a problem (and by chance I mean: this shouldn't scar, but considering that we're playing with wounds I cannot guarantee it won't, nor can I guarantee it won't get infected) then try 80 grit sandpaper before applying the salt.
Especially on locations where the skin is sensitive, sandpaper and salt creates very intense effects.
When it comes to her wanting more pain, you also have to step away from the idea that you need more intense sensations in order to create more pain. Many hardcore bottoms can take a lot, because they're very very good at 'processing' the pain. They use all sorts of techniques (some on purpose, some without knowing) to detach themselves from the pain, and therefore reach a state in which the pain doesn't really reach them.
Increasing the intensity doesn't really matter at that point, because the more you increase, the more detached they'll get, and -in some extreme cases- the less they'll even feel.
Instead you need to find a way to break through the blocks she's putting up, and connect her back to the pain by putting her focus on it. How to do that I can't really advice you without observe her, because there are as many ways to block pain as there are to create it.
In general, you need to observe her closely, and figure out what she 'does' in response to pain, and then find a way to prevent that.
If she goes still, make her move. If she squirms order her to be still (or restrain her).
If she closes her eyes, make her open them. If she keeps her eyes opened (especially glazed over and focused on a specific point) blind fold or hood her.
If she tends to go quiet, make her count the strokes, or describe to you what you're doing, or recite something, to break her focus. If she's loud, gag her, and find some way to make her be as quiet as possible.
Vary rhythm and intensity as much as possible, so that she has no way to anticipate what's coming.
Play with super soft and sensual techniques in between bouts of intense pain, so that her body starts to anticipate one thing, right before you do something else.
If she breaths through pain, find a way to limit, or restrict her breathing (but be VERY careful, and keep a close eye to make sure you don't restrict it too much).
Fear works really well on some people too. Mind fucks, getting in their head, making them scared breaks their concentration. Though again, you need to know your partner very well in order to pull that off, and not go to far. Use caution.
Whatever technique you try, your goal should be to find a way to connect her to the pain, and break her way of processing. I've seen extreme bottoms go to puddles of crying heaps, with some very very light play, just because whatever method of processing they used got broken.
I play with a very sadistic rope top, who now always ties with me in a full chest corset when we play (made out of rope) because he figured out that as long as I could control my breathing, I could control my reaction to even the most devious ties he could come up with.
As far as the technical aspects go:
- Cattle prods are a good intro to intense pain play (stay away from the chest area and head, but limbs and below the waist ought to be fine... do some reading/research first). Though much off the effect from a cattle prod is achieve by the fear reaction it provokes in most people. Objectively it's really not that painful, but, for most people, it's hard to not be scared of it even after they realize it's not really that bad, which will greatly intensify the pain reaction that's experienced while using them.
- Dull knife play on the abdomen and tendons produces an intense fear reaction, and a pain reaction disproportionately to the intensity off the pressure, because your body wants to instinctively protect them, yet is relatively safe.
- Vicks Vaporub, when applied over large body surfaces, especially the entire body, can produce an intensely unpleasant burning sensation, because your body cannot process that much stimulus all at the same time. It's also good for blocking pain management techniques while administering other painful sensations because of how overwhelming it is.
- Needles applied under the fingernails and toenails, or in the cuticle area is something I've never known anybody to be able to block out. Yet is relatively harmless. Make sure you use sterile needles.
- Likewise, putting pressure right on the cuticle area with a blunt implement (chopsticks work well for this) is intensely painful and very very difficult to block out, but causes very little harm. Experiment on yourself first, it doesn't take much pressure. Pliers used to 'crush' the entire fingernail will the same effect more intense, but have to be used with much more caution.
- Time is also a useful factor in increasing intensity. Almost anything, when done consistently over long periods of time, will become unbearable, even with the best pain management techniques. Hitting a the same exact spot over and over again can create more intense results, even if your blow stays consistent. Likewise poking at just one area can produce the same effect. Even something like being tied taut, spread eagle on a bed, will become unmanageable after a few hours, because of lacking the ability to move. Tight confinement in cages can quickly become very painful, as well as being tied in a stress position where one is neither able to fully rest, nor fully stand up. With all of these, be careful about lack of blood circulation, by making no spots on the body go 'cold', and fingers and toes maintain the ability to move on command, because cutting off circulation too much can cause nerve damage, which may be permanent.
- Using wart removal kits (intense cold freeze) is extremely painful when done in sensitive areas, especially when you're later doing impact play over top of the area, after it heats up again. Though read the instructions, and go slow, considering that you're potentially causing quiet intense burns, which may scar, if you go too long.
- Most bottoms also a distinct preference for either dull thuddy pain (like caused by a really heavy flogger, or a big paddle, or a baseball bat), or foar sharp stingy pain (like caused by canes and lighter weight plastic floggers) find out which she prefers, and exclusively use the other one.
- I've got a carpet beater that's home made out of heavy gauge metal wire which nobody I know so far has been able to take on their calves and thighs. It leaves pretty intense (and pretty) bruises though.
- Likewise I've got a homemade flogger made out of the same material, though much lighter gauge, which is very very intense. Especially seeing that the edges are slightly frayed and it leaves little scratch marks on the skin (which is fun as a precursor for salt applications). With that flogger you have to severely control your swing though, as using it full force could literally strip the flesh off somebody's bones. Some Tops like to be able to just do a nice full through swing, so if you're one of those, that's probably not a good toy for you to consider.
I'm might come up with some other suggestions in the next few days, but that should give you a pretty good starting point. [;)]
PS: Now who wants to come and play with me? [:D]
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