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Is the news broken?

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No. Slobbers Townhall, drools breitbart (sounds of insane laughter)

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BBC, Wiki etc aint too bad

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It was totally trumps fault

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It was totally Hillary fault

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It was Aliens

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6 wenches to go please

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Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 5:26:30 AM

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Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales creates news service Wikitribune

Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales is planning a news service that combines the work of professional journalists and volunteers.
His goal is for Wikitribune to offer "factual and neutral" articles that help combat the problem of "fake news".

https://www.wikitribune.com/
The news is broken and we can fix it. We’re bringing genuine community control to our news with unrestricted access for all. We’re developing a living, breathing tool that’ll present accurate information with real evidence, so that you can confidently make up your own mind.

RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 6:32:30 AM

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the news started to get "broken" when journalists began to see themselves as activists whose job it is to perpetuate their worldview.

left wing (mainstream) media bias is so prevalent that any fair minded person with an ounce of objectivity should be embarrassed by it.

while im here---if you, like so many of the other comrades here have a problem with townhall, which is not strictly a "news site" but rather a commentary one, how about actually dealing effectively with the CONTENT as opposed to impotently flailing about it as a source simply because it presents a view with which you disagree.

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 6:36:17 AM

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I agree with your first paragraph.

But if you think this is a left wing problem, you have your blinders on. Left and right news outlets are an embarrassment today.

Starting with the perversion that their mission is to balance the news in a partisan way.

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 6:41:52 AM

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sorry, no blinders---in the weighing of left wing bias in the mainstream media vs right wing bias, its no contest.

and people would do well to understand the necessary subtleties in the word "bias" before they throw it around as a constant criticism.

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 7:06:40 AM

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You might read what you just wrote about bias and consider it personally.

This is just yet another of your "I think it, so it's so" positions, along with "people who see otherwise are unreasonable."

* shrug *

It would be no problem to amass a long list of clear bias and overstatement in both left and right leaning media outlets.

Believe what you want. But it's unreasonable to be surprised when others find your "conclusions" specious.

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 7:25:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: WickedsDesire

Wikipedia's Jimmy Wales creates news service Wikitribune

Wikipedia's co-founder Jimmy Wales is planning a news service that combines the work of professional journalists and volunteers.
His goal is for Wikitribune to offer "factual and neutral" articles that help combat the problem of "fake news".

https://www.wikitribune.com/
The news is broken and we can fix it. We’re bringing genuine community control to our news with unrestricted access for all. We’re developing a living, breathing tool that’ll present accurate information with real evidence, so that you can confidently make up your own mind.

Didn't that Russell "asshat" Brand set up something of that sort to general apathy and indifference a few years back?

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 7:56:50 AM

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Must have missed that one was probably busy trying to wank myself to death with lesbian massage porn...a noble cause, I am sure you would agree. ( I will look that up)

Bunty44 all mainstream news is left wing bias is it? Did townhall tell you to say that or you know who - oh wait any stories that report him to be the complete stupid lying cunt that he is he just labels as fake news, or very fake news, so sad.

Wasn’t he having a sit down, closed doors, orange invite only…with conservative news sites today so they pipe his raw frothing orange effluent into the skulls of the thick and feeble minded? Why sit down with just "Conservative news people"

hes not going to get the bunty reference is he WM guffaws

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:19:13 AM

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quote:

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I agree with your first paragraph.

But if you think this is a left wing problem, you have your blinders on. Left and right news outlets are an embarrassment today.

Starting with the perversion that their mission is to balance the news in a partisan way.

Conservative media is a reaction to extreme leftist bias in every mainstream organization

Your bitching about the onlly balance there is in our media choices only serves to underscore how little regard you have for truth and honesty in reporting

You are nothing better than an empty headed ideologue and a troll

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:21:11 AM

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quote:

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You might read what you just wrote about bias and consider it personally.

This is just yet another of your "I think it, so it's so" positions, along with "people who see otherwise are unreasonable."

* shrug *

It would be no problem to amass a long list of clear bias and overstatement in both left and right leaning media outlets.

Believe what you want. But it's unreasonable to be surprised when others find your "conclusions" specious.

"You you you" are just a troll

Address the content just once in your miserable life

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:29:47 AM

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Yeh you tell him, or her, patient zero

You a her Musicmystery? Ah is that why the complete knobend is fascinated by you?

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:36:15 AM

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from the LAST TIME this came up (see prior posts about lefties being "unteachable"):

https://www.studentnewsdaily.com/example-of-media-bias/veteran_reporter_admits_msm_s_bias_is_overwhelmingly_left/

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/releases/Media-Bias-Is-Real-Finds-UCLA-6664

http://fortune.com/2015/11/02/liberal-media/

http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf

https://pjmedia.com/blog/shocker-media-apparatchiks-overwhelmingly-vote-democrat

"Liberal News Media Bias Has a Serious Effect"

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News media bias is real. It reduces the quality of journalism, and it fosters distrust among readers and viewers. This is bad for democracy.

Many prevailing biases exist in the U.S. news media. All news outlets are biased toward an eye-catching narrative. The Washington news media is biased toward Washington-based solutions. And the political press in the U.S. has an overwhelming leftward tilt, mostly on social issues, but also on economic matters.

Conservatives aren’t imagining this bias. It’s evident in many ways, including personnel movement. For instance, Bill Keller, after years as a New York Times columnist taking largely liberal stands, became The Times' executive editor.

Studies consistently show that reporters and editors stand to the left of the American center. More than 30 former journalists now serve in the Obama administration — nothing comparable happens in G.O.P. administrations.

Clustering of left-of-center viewpoints in the newsroom leads to a cloistering, and thus reporters end up unfamiliar with conservative viewpoints. This shows up in the tone of daily coverage (for instance, “property rights” gets put in scare quotes, while “abortion rights” doesn’t). The problem has flared up this election year.

Republican debates are primarily for a Republican audience, yet the CNBC moderators' challenging of Ben Carson for his support of ethanol mandates may have been the only question from a clearly conservative perspective. Most questions challenged the candidates for not supporting more government spending, regulation, taxes and subsidies. The questions came with liberal premises, making them irrelevant to the conservative audience.

Conservatives are an alien species in many newsrooms. The resulting slanted (and occasionally hostile) coverage leaves conservatives rightly distrustful that the news media will cover them fairly. This breeds the perception that the mainstream media is out to get conservatives, and this perception has truly harmful consequences.

The most crucial role of our press is scrutinizing those in power and those who want power. Dr. Carson, Donald Trump, Marco Rubio and the others all deserve intense scrutiny of their policy proposals, their past and their stated beliefs. Dr. Carson has portrayed the recent news media scrutiny of him as a witch hunt, and (especially when some of it is unfair) conservative voters believe him. This enables him to dodge accountability.

Democracy needs a trustworthy news media. For conservatives to trust the news media, it needs to better understand conservatives.

http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/11/11/why-has-trust-in-the-news-media-declined/liberal-news-media-bias-has-a-serious-effect

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:40:16 AM

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from two years ago:

and some articles on media bias (both the broad and narrow definition):

"Liberal media bias: what the studies and surveys tell us"

"Of the 20 major media outlets studied, 18 scored left of center, with CBS’ “Evening News,” The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.

"Only Fox News’ “Special Report With Brit Hume” and The Washington Times scored right of the average U.S. voter...

"The programming studied on Fox News offered a somewhat more positive picture…

"Senior executives, on-air personalities, producers, reporters, editors, writers and other self-identifying employees of ABC, CBS and NBC contributed more than $1 million to Democratic candidates and campaign committees in 2008, according to an analysis by The Examiner of data compiled by the Center for Responsive Politics.

"The Democratic total of $1,020,816 was given by 1,160 employees of the three major broadcast television networks...

"By contrast, only 193 of the employees contributed to Republican candidates and campaign committees, for a total of $142,863....

"President Obama received 710 such contributions worth a total of $461,898, for an average contribution of $651 from the network employees. Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain received only 39 contributions totaling $26,926, for an average donation of $709."

"MSNBC.com identified 143 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 16 gave to Republicans."

https://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2012/08/16/liberal-media-bias-what-the-studies-and-surveys-tell-us/

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:42:25 AM

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from that same post:

"RESEARCH ON MEDIA BIAS"

"The leftwing bias of the American mass media is pervasive and quantifiable. Since the 1980s, studies have consistently shown that the professionals who constitute America’s mainstream news media – reporters, editors, anchors, publishers, correspondents, bureau chiefs, and executives at the nation’s major newspapers, magazines, and broadcast networks – are preponderantly left-oriented and Democrat...

"Bias in the news media manifests itself most powerfully not in the form of outright, intentional lies, but is most often a function of what reporters choose not to tell their audience; i.e., the facts they purposely omit so as to avoid contradicting the political narrative they wish to advance. As media researchers Tim Groseclose and Jeffrey Milyo put it: “[F]or every sin of commission…we believe that there are hundreds, and maybe thousands, of sins of omission – cases where a journalist chose facts or stories that only one side of the political spectrum is likely to mention....”
 
http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/viewSubCategory.asp?id=207

of course Harvard, UCLA, the University of Indiana, the Pew Research Center, and others are all just as bad as Glenn Beck.

and on and on and on...

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 8:53:31 AM

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Donald Trump Time interview: US President appears to lie about lying

Heh who seen that coming eh!

Trump's statements were awarded PolitiFact's 2015 Lie of the Year. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 10:42:08 AM

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I come here and just see more of the same BS.

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 10:48:38 AM

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Donald Trump Time interview: US President appears to lie about lying

Heh who seen that coming eh!

Trump's statements were awarded PolitiFact's 2015 Lie of the Year. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/

Quick, derail the subject

You are getting your ignorant half asses handed to you

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 10:51:09 AM

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http://www.nashvillescene.com/news/features/article/20854379/in-a-divorce-trial-serious-allegations-about-sen-joey-hensley

is it media bias to report on nutsucker family values?

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 10:52:43 AM

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So is your position that the right wing media isn't biased, just left leaning media?

Or that virtually all media is left leaning?

Is it your claim that right leaning bias by and large doesn't exist?

Because it appears that way. Please clarify.

Btw, posting blogs that agree with you isn't "evidence."

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 11:01:04 AM

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Btw, posting blogs that agree with you isn't "evidence."

Trying to argue that in here is probably a lost cause, sadly...

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RE: Is the news broken? - 4/25/2017 11:11:08 AM

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from that same post:

"RESEARCH ON MEDIA BIAS"

...and on and on and on...

And interestingly, the cite is biased.

"This website describes the networks and agendas of the political Left."
So here we have, by their own admission, a right-wing group criticising the media as left wing.

How typical.

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