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Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/10/2017 1:07:08 PM   
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Lucky for me I had an old, ancient, archaic external floppy/zip drive laying around in my antiques collection.

I began my morning with the decision (okay delusion) of organizing the 5 totes and six boxes of stuff that I have drug around for god knows how long which led to the discover of 123 hicap floppy disks.

Now, sis pops in and suggests that I try and figure out just what the hell was on them....

So, out comes the ancient drive (FYI you can get these things to work on modern systems without sacrificing a virgin to the computer gods) and so I have spent the last few hours looking at disks.

The shock was that all of the read.

The real shock was that I actually found a plug in that allowed me to open old word perfect files.

I discovered (and transferred to dvd data after conversions) old term papers, research papers, writing projects for the creative writing classes I was required to take (which brings up an interesting question, why the fuck does a history major have to take 4 creative writing courses?)

Among the research papers:

History:
Robert E. Lee and the Army of Virginia
Mistakes leading to Pearl Harbor
Loss of Innocence: The Post JFK era

Religion:
The fallacies of taking the Bible Literally
The Continuing impact of Catholic Dogma on modern Christianity
Organized religion and the detrimental impact on modern society

Political Science
The limitations of Representative Government.
The Political Impact of a Top heavy Federal Government
States Rights vs National Government
The Failures of the Liberal Agenda (circa 1988)



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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 3:30:14 AM   
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That's a project I have to get around to myself at some point: I've got a couple of boxes and a tray full of 3.5" inch floppies to go through, and (unlike a small case of those zip things), I can read those by plugging a usb drive into a pc or Mac.
Unless you do something like sticking them to a filing cabinet with a magnet (possibly an urban myth, but a very widely repeated one), plastic cased 3.5 inch floppies are surprisingly robust, not just compared to older eight inch and 5 and a quarter inch paper cased floppies, but in general. I'd be a lot more optimistic about reading data from a twenty year old floppy that old than from a CD I'd burned at the same time, put it that way...
I thought libreoffice and a few of the freeware text editors would open word perfect files quite happily without engremlining them?


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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 12:27:15 PM   
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That's a project I have to get around to myself at some point: I've got a couple of boxes and a tray full of 3.5" inch floppies to go through, and (unlike a small case of those zip things), I can read those by plugging a usb drive into a pc or Mac.
Unless you do something like sticking them to a filing cabinet with a magnet (possibly an urban myth, but a very widely repeated one), plastic cased 3.5 inch floppies are surprisingly robust, not just compared to older eight inch and 5 and a quarter inch paper cased floppies, but in general. I'd be a lot more optimistic about reading data from a twenty year old floppy that old than from a CD I'd burned at the same time, put it that way...
I thought libreoffice and a few of the freeware text editors would open word perfect files quite happily without engremlining them?



They will, but I decided to convert them as well.

Never know, might want to venture back into the world of academia and finish a doctorate in history.....

Got my masters, then looked at the professor types at the school...

You know, white shirts, ties, sport coats, slacks, loafers, while I was wearing faded and frayed cuff jeans, sandals, a t-shirt that had the phrase "I dont date women who use four letter words, like 'dont' 'quit' and 'stop' and a Tasmanian devil baseball cap with Taz drinking tequila....

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 1:43:45 PM   
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For years I was toting around the DNA sequencing patterns from "Jurassic Park" done up on graphic notebook paper as an extra credit assignment for my math class. It actually made me read the whole book and I have watched all the sequels now...something like dinosaurs and the chaotic theory used to revive them (I stick to touring dig sites, tyvm).


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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 2:45:32 PM   
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For years I was toting around the DNA sequencing patterns from "Jurassic Park" done up on graphic notebook paper as an extra credit assignment for my math class. It actually made me read the whole book and I have watched all the sequels now...something like dinosaurs and the chaotic theory used to revive them (I stick to touring dig sites, tyvm).




Dig sites? of what dinosaurs?

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 2:52:00 PM   
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My twin sister is a fuking idiot - apparently she has a degree in accountng

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/11/2017 2:54:10 PM   
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Now original sim city and rail road tycoon anyone on the 5.25 floppies (20 inches myself) You may call me tycoon wicked - and fall to your knees..I think we would all agree that is fair

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 2:26:19 AM   
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For years I was toting around the DNA sequencing patterns from "Jurassic Park" done up on graphic notebook paper as an extra credit assignment for my math class. It actually made me read the whole book and I have watched all the sequels now...something like dinosaurs and the chaotic theory used to revive them (I stick to touring dig sites, tyvm).


Did you get the fuss about Crichton taking his conceit (and some of the speculative genetics) for his novel from a Judge Dredd comic in the 'States when the film version came out, or was that a purely UK thing?

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 6:16:58 AM   
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I think that was a UK thing. I collect some comic books (mainly Dawn/Linsner and some parodies) but I don't seem to recall the fuss. Of course I am about to turn 50 and some of my memory is shot due to selective amnesia and the medications for my bipolar disorder.

Jeff, mainly some lowland/wetland/coastland dinosaurs, especially around the Austin area. There is a spot off limits at this time I believe that had footprints in Zilker Park/Barton Creek that I used to hike where I would sneak in and take a peek. Now its illegal to take any fossils out of the Creek but my daughter Lizard did find a failed spearhead in the Creek below the Pool that UT confirmed was about 5,000 years old and probably tossed into a midden. That sucker is still sharp and has to be handled with care. This makes her want to be an anthropologist I think (while I want to be a folklorist, go figure).

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 6:26:01 AM   
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I think that was a UK thing. I collect some comic books (mainly Dawn/Linsner and some parodies) but I don't seem to recall the fuss. Of course I am about to turn 50 and some of my memory is shot due to selective amnesia and the medications for my bipolar disorder.

Jeff, mainly some lowland/wetland/coastland dinosaurs, especially around the Austin area. There is a spot off limits at this time I believe that had footprints in Zilker Park/Barton Creek that I used to hike where I would sneak in and take a peek. Now its illegal to take any fossils out of the Creek but my daughter Lizard did find a failed spearhead in the Creek below the Pool that UT confirmed was about 5,000 years old and probably tossed into a midden. That sucker is still sharp and has to be handled with care. This makes her want to be an anthropologist I think (while I want to be a folklorist, go figure).


Alright there Professor ShaharThorne, I pose a question for you.....

The Clovis culture, as exemplified by the famous clovis point originated from where?

Now before you answer, bear in mind that the Clovis point bears no resemblance to any spear or lance points found in Mongolia OR any north eastern Asian regions, however, it does bear remarkable similarities to spear and lance points found in southern England, Norway, and parts of France.

Also bear in mind that there is a 1000 year gap between the most recent Clovis sites and later sites showing Human habitation in North America, all of which do have technological links to Asian spear and lance points.

Now considering the scientific contention is that humans first got to north America via a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska, despite the fact that evidence has been found that proves humans were here at least ten to 20 thousand years before that particular route was not ice blocked.

So, oh wise one, explain, and with proof how a culture developed a technology with no links to where the people supposedly originated?

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 7:21:35 AM   
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quote:

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I think that was a UK thing. I collect some comic books (mainly Dawn/Linsner and some parodies) but I don't seem to recall the fuss. Of course I am about to turn 50 and some of my memory is shot due to selective amnesia and the medications for my bipolar disorder.

One of the earliest drawn out Judge Dredd stories involved a trip across the radioactive wasteland that fills the middle of America after the third world war in order to carry a shipment of vaccine from Mega City One (most of the east coast) to Mega City Two (most of California and a chunk of Oregon). En route they run into a town that's being threatened by a pack of tyrannosaurs, and the exposition goes into a lot of detail about how genetic material was extracted from dinosaur remains and implanted into alligator eggs, and that when the research programme was closed down, the administrators set up a dinosaur theme park to continue to fund the project.
The set up and backstory for this particular sub plot does seem very akin to Jurassic Park, but it always struck me as a bit odd complaining that part of a story that's a blatant rip off of Damnation Alley has been plagiarised by somebody else...

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 7:32:10 AM   
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quote:

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I think that was a UK thing. I collect some comic books (mainly Dawn/Linsner and some parodies) but I don't seem to recall the fuss. Of course I am about to turn 50 and some of my memory is shot due to selective amnesia and the medications for my bipolar disorder.

One of the earliest drawn out Judge Dredd stories involved a trip across the radioactive wasteland that fills the middle of America after the third world war in order to carry a shipment of vaccine from Mega City One (most of the east coast) to Mega City Two (most of California and a chunk of Oregon). En route they run into a town that's being threatened by a pack of tyrannosaurs, and the exposition goes into a lot of detail about how genetic material was extracted from dinosaur remains and implanted into alligator eggs, and that when the research programme was closed down, the administrators set up a dinosaur theme park to continue to fund the project.
The set up and backstory for this particular sub plot does seem very akin to Jurassic Park, but it always struck me as a bit odd complaining that part of a story that's a blatant rip off of Damnation Alley has been plagiarised by somebody else...



Look, in Damnation Alley, the giant critters were genetic mutations caused by the third world war and people throwing nukes around.....

I would have preferred the giant gila monsters from the book over the flesh eating cock roaches though in the movie.

In fact, I would have preferred the movie follow the damn book instead of going off on some tangent about some American Air Force officer going to look for survivors.



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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 7:52:49 AM   
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There's mutants all over the cursed earth as well, but the dinosaurs went feral after the war because the theme park was abandoned. The tyrannosaurs became the new apex predators as no giant radioactive cockroach is going to mess with them.

As for that sodding film, I think they wanted to have a double act of protagonists so that they could replace Hell Tanner's stream of consciousness from the novel with dialogue. (He's what, a quarter of the way into the novel when his co-driver has a nervous breakdown and can't go on any more?) Maybe somebody thought that having a more authoritarian-acting lead character than the last hell's angel might be a change worth making as well. There's some odd sorts working in Hollywood, after all.

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 12:17:37 PM   
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The Clovis points were discover in 1932 around Clovis NM by a road crew who then contacted the University of Pennsylvania and Edgar B Howard went out to investigate and discover the 'remains' of the possibly first American civilization. That existed for about 300 to 400 years but the tools were used in a span of 13,500 years, give or take a few years (if its a good thing, keep it going). There has been points discovered in various parts of the Americas, some going as far south as Venezuela. There is some debate whether or not the Clovis people did hunt the mega-animals like the mammoth and rhino because of the 'sticks and stones' theory (most museum displays has the hunters hurling spears at mammoths with the wife and kids standing by) while some people are saying that the early Americans were salvaging, taking advantage of the watering holes and picking off the weak and infirm animals.

You realize I had to dig through my old Smithsonian magazine collection (yes, I collect those from the library sales and some NeoGeo as well) because I remembered this article. What I don't learn in college, I get from being self taught in various methods.

Meanwhile, I am trying to figure out the security system for my MMORPG...its trying to change on me and its not allowing me to fix it.


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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/12/2017 1:59:48 PM   
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The Clovis points were discover in 1932 around Clovis NM by a road crew who then contacted the University of Pennsylvania and Edgar B Howard went out to investigate and discover the 'remains' of the possibly first American civilization. That existed for about 300 to 400 years but the tools were used in a span of 13,500 years, give or take a few years (if its a good thing, keep it going). There has been points discovered in various parts of the Americas, some going as far south as Venezuela. There is some debate whether or not the Clovis people did hunt the mega-animals like the mammoth and rhino because of the 'sticks and stones' theory (most museum displays has the hunters hurling spears at mammoths with the wife and kids standing by) while some people are saying that the early Americans were salvaging, taking advantage of the watering holes and picking off the weak and infirm animals.

You realize I had to dig through my old Smithsonian magazine collection (yes, I collect those from the library sales and some NeoGeo as well) because I remembered this article. What I don't learn in college, I get from being self taught in various methods.

Meanwhile, I am trying to figure out the security system for my MMORPG...its trying to change on me and its not allowing me to fix it.




You did not answer the primary question:

IF the first Americans arrived from Asia via the land bridge between Alaska and Siberia, then why are their Clovis points that have no connection in design or even manufacture with spear and lance points from Siberia, Mongolia etc, but do have a strong resemblance to spear and lance points found in Europe?

Secondly, the spear points dated after the decline of the Clovis culture, about 1500 years between the two, do resemble spear and lance points found in Siberia and Mongolia, indicating a technological link between the two.

The latest studies have pushed humans on the North American continent back to around 24000BCE.

However, there are some sites that indicate an earlier arrival of humans prior to this in parts of lower North America and into South America, but there is a rub to this....

The land route from the Barents Land bridge in to the inner North American continent and further south was blocked by a 3 mile high sheet of ice.

That is if you stick to the idea that the first humans arrived from Asia.

Also, if you stick to the Asia migration theory for the first humans, it also means that once the got here, they threw away all their familiar technology and got on the stone age internet to download spear point designs that were indigenous to Europe.....

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/25/2017 5:22:56 PM   
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Lucky for me I had an old, ancient, archaic external floppy/zip drive laying around in my antiques collection.

I began my morning with the decision (okay delusion) of organizing the 5 totes and six boxes of stuff that I have drug around for god knows how long which led to the discover of 123 hicap floppy disks.

Now, sis pops in and suggests that I try and figure out just what the hell was on them....

So, out comes the ancient drive (FYI you can get these things to work on modern systems without sacrificing a virgin to the computer gods) and so I have spent the last few hours looking at disks.

The shock was that all of the read.

The real shock was that I actually found a plug in that allowed me to open old word perfect files.

I discovered (and transferred to dvd data after conversions) old term papers, research papers, writing projects for the creative writing classes I was required to take (which brings up an interesting question, why the fuck does a history major have to take 4 creative writing courses?)

Among the research papers:

History:
Robert E. Lee and the Army of Virginia
Mistakes leading to Pearl Harbor
Loss of Innocence: The Post JFK era

Religion:
The fallacies of taking the Bible Literally
The Continuing impact of Catholic Dogma on modern Christianity
Organized religion and the detrimental impact on modern society

Political Science
The limitations of Representative Government.
The Political Impact of a Top heavy Federal Government
States Rights vs National Government
The Failures of the Liberal Agenda (circa 1988)




I have to get a new rig for the house...I have 8 quintillion old 3.5's (gotta get it because there's some old shit there!). I actually had my girls buy me a 3.5 with a usb...didn't work so...gotta get a new rig with one.

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/26/2017 3:30:58 AM   
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Are you sure the USB disc drive doesn't work? It might just be refusing to read the discs you've tried in it.

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RE: Never ask a sister for help organizing stuff - 5/29/2017 11:32:31 AM   
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Are you sure the USB disc drive doesn't work? It might just be refusing to read the discs you've tried in it.


Hmmmm....I shall try again.

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