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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 2:33:15 PM

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Just a real quicky.

So a man has to pay pay pay simply because he has sexual desires. Sure, if women are finding it hard to get something out of men, they should cough up money to get it too. Oh wait, that sounds ridiculous, but not when you use men as the target.

The fact of the matter is, if women don't have to pay, neither should men. If a woman disagrees with this, she should shut up about wage gap.

If you just paid a pro domme you would save all the time you spend on here whining, you could be doing some overtime to pay for it.

Yet you aren't whining? Your hypocrisy is making me laugh. Why is it that today's women are shameless hypocrites? They think they get to complain all they want while telling men they aren't allowed to do the same. Gotta larf

I'm trying to help the males help themselves. Teach a man to visit a pro domme and you feed him for a lifetime.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 5:12:09 PM

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I wish i could do it but i have no domme in me. Unless being a cunt sometimes counts as domme'ing.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 5:12:28 PM

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Just a real quicky.

So a man has to pay pay pay simply because he has sexual desires. Sure, if women are finding it hard to get something out of men, they should cough up money to get it too. Oh wait, that sounds ridiculous, but not when you use men as the target.

The fact of the matter is, if women don't have to pay, neither should men. If a woman disagrees with this, she should shut up about wage gap.

If you just paid a pro domme you would save all the time you spend on here whining, you could be doing some overtime to pay for it.

Yet you aren't whining? Your hypocrisy is making me laugh. Why is it that today's women are shameless hypocrites? They think they get to complain all they want while telling men they aren't allowed to do the same. Gotta larf

I'm trying to help the males help themselves. Teach a man to visit a pro domme and you feed him for a lifetime.

I'm trying to help you too. The reason you made this thread is because 95 percent of males wont offer what you want, right? Therefore, if men have to pay women to get something that's difficult to achieve, its fair to say women have to pay men to get something out of men that's hard to achieve. So start coughing up the 100 dollar bills.

That said, what makes you special and worthy of what you are seeking? If you can't come up with a reasonable and logical answer, well doesn't that make you seem foolish?

You have all these big demands yet you don't show how you are worthy of any of this.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 5:22:27 PM

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Well, as a woman i can say, you don't have to pay if you are willing to weed through the wanna-bees. It's just a matter of how picky you are and how much you're willing to search for what you want.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 5:26:35 PM

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Just a real quicky.

So a man has to pay pay pay simply because he has sexual desires. Sure, if women are finding it hard to get something out of men, they should cough up money to get it too. Oh wait, that sounds ridiculous, but not when you use men as the target.

The fact of the matter is, if women don't have to pay, neither should men. If a woman disagrees with this, she should shut up about wage gap.

If you just paid a pro domme you would save all the time you spend on here whining, you could be doing some overtime to pay for it.

Yet you aren't whining? Your hypocrisy is making me laugh. Why is it that today's women are shameless hypocrites? They think they get to complain all they want while telling men they aren't allowed to do the same. Gotta larf

I'm trying to help the males help themselves. Teach a man to visit a pro domme and you feed him for a lifetime.

I'm trying to help you too. The reason you made this thread is because 95 percent of males wont offer what you want, right? Therefore, if men have to pay women to get something that's difficult to achieve, its fair to say women have to pay men to get something out of men that's hard to achieve. So start coughing up the 100 dollar bills.

That said, what makes you special and worthy of what you are seeking? If you can't come up with a reasonable and logical answer, well doesn't that make you seem foolish?

You have all these big demands yet you don't show how you are worthy of any of this.

I'm totally fine with them not giving me what I want. I just wish they would read a profile and accept it, I've made it easy for them.

I have found what I am looking for, but I still get messages from all the selfish arseholes.

I don't have to show how I am worthy, I am already living the dream.

Can you explain why you are worthy and why you think women should message you? Maybe you should put it on your profile and they might actually do it.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 7:32:02 PM

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When I reach a certain age where it's hard to get volunteers anymore. I am so paying for a male pro dominant that's for sure! For his skill and expertise and also adhering to my limits, too many voluntary dominants always want to push limits, kinda thread the edges, which kinda doesn't help with building any kind of trust. And it's the mentality too. They don't feel they are breaking limits, but to me, I'm black and white. I like them to stick precisely to pre-agreements and not sneak in a little push here or there which seems to be grey areas, which will basically make me not respect them anymore. But they are probably used to women who do want to be pushed.

When i watch sex and submission videos, I would love to pay one of those guys to play with me, because everything is executed so professionally and safely. And because they are practically professionals. They don't even try to push limits, they adhere to the parameters.

Adherance to Hard Limits, that is certainly a valuable point in favor of pros (whose business depends on word of mouth, and return customers). I've talked to several submissives over the past few years who have been physically and/or mentally traumatized by "Dominants" they entrusted their safety to, who in turn decided to "push limits", usually after they had them tied up so they couldn't leave. A pro-Dominant can also help a submissive "try out" an activity, with no D/s relationship type commitment required.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:12:42 PM

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Just a real quicky.

So a man has to pay pay pay simply because he has sexual desires. Sure, if women are finding it hard to get something out of men, they should cough up money to get it too. Oh wait, that sounds ridiculous, but not when you use men as the target.

The fact of the matter is, if women don't have to pay, neither should men. If a woman disagrees with this, she should shut up about wage gap.

If you just paid a pro domme you would save all the time you spend on here whining, you could be doing some overtime to pay for it.

Yet you aren't whining? Your hypocrisy is making me laugh. Why is it that today's women are shameless hypocrites? They think they get to complain all they want while telling men they aren't allowed to do the same. Gotta larf

I'm trying to help the males help themselves. Teach a man to visit a pro domme and you feed him for a lifetime.

I'm trying to help you too. The reason you made this thread is because 95 percent of males wont offer what you want, right? Therefore, if men have to pay women to get something that's difficult to achieve, its fair to say women have to pay men to get something out of men that's hard to achieve. So start coughing up the 100 dollar bills.

That said, what makes you special and worthy of what you are seeking? If you can't come up with a reasonable and logical answer, well doesn't that make you seem foolish?

You have all these big demands yet you don't show how you are worthy of any of this.

I'm totally fine with them not giving me what I want. I just wish they would read a profile and accept it, I've made it easy for them.

I have found what I am looking for, but I still get messages from all the selfish arseholes.

I don't have to show how I am worthy, I am already living the dream.

Can you explain why you are worthy and why you think women should message you? Maybe you should put it on your profile and they might actually do it.

If you already have someone and you are angry with unwanted emails, why don't you choose to hide your profile? Anyone with even half a brain would figure that out. It seems that you are telling fibs. If you were truly happy with someone, you wouldn't feel the need to make a thread and start ranting and crying about men not being the way you want them to be.

Speaking of selfish assholes, what exactly do you define "selfish"? A man just simply wanting his sexual desires met? That's what you call selfish? The irony is massive with this one as what you expect is nothing more than utterly selfish. You expect men to please you but you aren't willing to please men in return. How the fuck isn't that selfish you dumbass hypocrite?

You can't show that you are worthy and special because there is nothing to show. The reason why you can't show it is simply because you're not worthy or special yet you demand to be treated special which is fucking laughable.

I don't claim I'm anyone special. I'm not the one demanding to be treated special. I claim that I would most probably be no better than the next guy you come across. I'm not a narcissist with delusional grandeur such as yourself.

Anyway thanks for proving my point. You are making a fool of your self to claim you are someone special and demand to be treated special but yet have nothing to show for it.

Points finger and laughs at you.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:20:38 PM

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Another point, in Lucy's OP she whinges about men not treating her like a human being but seems all okay with pro dommes not treating men as human beings. A pro domme doesn't give a fuck about the men they deal with. If she can't treat him as an ATM machine, she doesn't want anything to do with him, not even simple friendship. She wants your wallet, not your heart.

This is what I will never understand about blokes who see pro dommes or hookers, how can they feel turned on over someone who doesn't feel the same about you? A pro domme only wants to play with you for money, not because she really wants to play with you. That right there is an instant erection wrecker.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:25:31 PM

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if women don't have to pay, neither should men.

The reality is, women don't have to pay because men are lining up to do it for free. Men even pay women to do what the woman want.

Demand and supply.

Why are you upset at economics? You should be railing against the men who made this possible for women.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:27:56 PM

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Even an SSBBW who is unemployed and living with her parents would get more luck than the average guy on here.

This problem isn't created by women. But created by men.

You are raging against the wrong gender. What's wrong with your men population that they give an SSBBW who is unemployed and living with parents a time of their day? Why do they bother to feed women entitlement? If all men united and not feed women entitlement, women couldn't get their entitlements.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:28:37 PM

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Greta, supply and demand does not justify the mentality that men have to pay. It's women who have been crying about equaity for decades. So now here it is. If one gender doesn't have to pay, neither should the other. That's equality. Women asked for it, now they have to put up with it when it's inconvenient for them. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:30:29 PM

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Greta, supply and demand does not justify the mentality that men have to pay. It's women who have been crying about equaity for decades. So now here it is. If one gender doesn't have to pay, neither should the other. That's equality. Women asked for it, now they have to put up with it when it's inconvenient for them. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

As I said, this problem isn't created by woman. Woman cannot force males to do anything against their will.

This "unfairness" is created solely by males. So you are raging at the wrong gender. Your males fed females what they want, and whatever they wnat.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:32:14 PM

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Even an SSBBW who is unemployed and living with her parents would get more luck than the average guy on here.

This problem isn't created by women. But created by men.

You are raging against the wrong gender. What's wrong with your men population that they give an SSBBW who is unemployed and living with parents a time of their day? Why do they bother to feed women entitlement? If all men united and not feed women entitlement, women couldn't get their entitlements.

It's not the fault of men that women choose to be a million times more shalow than men. Men can't control women, so we aren't accountable for women being closed minded.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:33:39 PM

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Greta, supply and demand does not justify the mentality that men have to pay. It's women who have been crying about equaity for decades. So now here it is. If one gender doesn't have to pay, neither should the other. That's equality. Women asked for it, now they have to put up with it when it's inconvenient for them. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

As I said, this problem isn't created by woman. Woman cannot force males to do anything against their will.

This "unfairness" is created solely by males. So you are raging at the wrong gender. Your males fed females what they want, and whatever they wnat.

As I said, it's not the fault of men that women are more shallow only women can control their actions. We aren't accountable for how women think.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 8:35:09 PM

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It's not the fault of men that women choose to be a million times more shalow than men. Men can't control women, so we aren't accountable for women being closed minded.

It's like a parent spoiling their child.

If males happily all accede to all woman's demands. And they don't stop feeding her whatever she wants happily and willingly and voluntarily. Of course it would create the imbalance it is now.

The same could happen to you, if you were the receiving end of what women receives from men.

Some men get women happily pay him to hang out with her. And gets alot of female attention too, and then you try hanging out with these men. And how they are like.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 9:31:13 PM

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Greta, what you fail to understand is that women aren't children. Every aldult is responsible and accountable for their actions and the way they think. The only person who controls al of this is you, no one else. No one is forcing women to be a million times more shallow than men. Women do this all by themselves as they are the only ones who control this.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 9:40:21 PM

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Greta, what you fail to understand is that women aren't children. Every aldult is responsible and accountable for their actions and the way they think. The only person who controls al of this is you, no one else. No one is forcing women to be a million times more shallow than men. Women do this all by themselves as they are the only ones who control this.

RM wants to use some domme to make his cock hard and give him release and then calls the woman shallow. Gotta larfe!

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/28/2017 9:47:02 PM

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Greta, what you fail to understand is that women aren't children. Every aldult is responsible and accountable for their actions and the way they think. The only person who controls al of this is you, no one else. No one is forcing women to be a million times more shallow than men. Women do this all by themselves as they are the only ones who control this.

You are wrong. I believe I can control the actions of others to a certain extent.

That's what being a leader is, and being a good manager is.

Maybe you have never inspired people to do things your way before. And the way you are trying to achieve this shows extremely lack of skills in that area.

Just like women had to believe they can change men, to be able to granted equal rights to voting in the first place. They took action and change the men's thinking to allowing women to vote and own property.

We all have the power to change others and influence others around us.

I use that power alot in my daily life. And I have seen results and how it changes people's life.

Just the other day, a girlfriend remembered the precise date she met me, and I was shock like why would she remember such a detail. And she said that, I inspired her out of her grief of losing her dad, she was in a dark place for 3 years after the man who was her world died, which was her dad. The day she met me, her entire life changed and she charted a new direction. I was a major pivoting influence on her life.

Hearing things like this feels good and I believe in my power to do that for people. They believed I played a part in changing their lives. And people have played a part in changing my life too. I believe in paying in forward.

I also believe if something is not right, I am gonna do whatever I can to change it within my ability, and I want to achieve it pragmatically in a way where I will see results.

So pragmatically if you diagnose the problem you are complaining about. The men are causing the problem. And if you want to see change in that area, it's the men you should work on.

A simple example is Prostitution is Illegal in the US. They ban Prostitution, but is that the cause of the problem? That women are willing to trade sex for money? OR is the root of the problem Men are too willing to pay for sex? Men are still willing to pay escorts or whatever. Sugar babes etc.

It has not weed out the problem at all.

I think my big question is, do you care about solutions to your problems? Or do you just want to whine?

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/29/2017 1:15:21 AM

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Greta, it's easy to turn your argument on you and imply that it's the fault of women for why men only want fetish delivery systems. It's the fault of women because they can make us change but they wont.

See how ridiculous that sounds? Well your side of the story is equally ridiculous.

You infantilise women as society always does. Women can never be the fault or blame for anything. If men are behaving badly, it's the fault of men. If women are behaving badly, it's still the fault of men.

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RE: I think there should be MORE pro dommes - 5/29/2017 2:03:47 AM

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This is what I will never understand about blokes who see pro dommes or hookers, how can they feel turned on over someone who doesn't feel the same about you? A pro domme only wants to play with you for money, not because she really wants to play with you. That right there is an instant erection wrecker.

*That* is a really telling comment - and one that's in your favour, too, in my opinion. Strewth, RM - all sarcasm aside - in that requirement of a mutuality of feelings there's a belief in equality of the sexes right there - you have a feminist streak hidden in you! I would agree: the thought of a woman who's only pretending to be turned on is an erection-killer for me, too. I saw a prostitute just once, in Amsterdam, when I was in my early twenties. I've never used the services of a pro-domme.

I think the way it works is that men who see pro-dommes are able to put aside that requirement of mutuality of feelings with a real, live woman in something like the way I do when I use porn. The woman I'm looking at in a porn video looks turned on, but is probably acting. For sure she's not turned on by me as I watch her. Yet, I don't care: she's there to fulfill a fantasy, no more. Perhaps the man who sees a pro-domme just does the same mental arrangement in his head - only he's able to do it better, because he can make it work even with a real life, right-there woman ....

Still, I could imagine that those men who regularly see pro-dommes would say that I'm painting the nature of their relationships with them too coldly. The pro-domme is acting the part, sure, but somewhere inside she'll be enjoying it, at least minimally, or she wouldn't be doing the job. And pro-dommes and their clients can be friends - in the same way as anybody can become friends with anyone with whom they do business.

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