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Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/8/2017 7:49:04 PM   
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My .22 handgun has been failing to chamber and sometimes jamming.
It should hold 8 rounds, but I found I didn't have any problems chambering and firing when I loaded only 7 rounds into the clip
Then six.
Now, I have issues if I load more than 5 rounds.

I think ordering a new magazine clip ( or 2) for it might help.

I could take it in for service, but ordering a new clip would be a cheaper first step.

Any ideas what else it could be?

I like the gun, and I've become comfortable firing it and prefer it over my .380. I just don't see any use for a gun that I can't rely on.

So, any advice from those of you who have experience with this issue?


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/8/2017 11:28:51 PM   
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Is the magazine getting dirtier & dirtier over time making it feed poorly? Or is it a cheap magazine spring that is slowly failing, getting worse and worse. Without checking the gun in person, that is my best first guess. Your idea to get a new magazine seems like best course of action.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 1:16:19 AM   
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I'd be happy to consult MP, in the morning, if you would like? If the guy can run an armory, I'm pretty sure he has decent advice.


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 5:33:20 AM   
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You can order new springs for your clips online as well, the heavy duty ones. Or, new clips, other than factory clips with the heavy springs in them...It does make a big difference.

Keeping the clip fully loaded, just sitting around...in time weakens the springs.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 9:36:27 AM   
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Thank you all for the advice and responding.

Kay and I strip the guns and clean them, but I've never cleaned the magazine. I will consult the manual about cleaning the magazine clip, I guess if all else fails; RTFM :)

We never leave ammo in our clips, we only load and shoot at the range. Then clean the guns at home. Otherwise guns and ammo are locked up separately.

Lady Pact, any advice From MP would be greatly appreciated, thank you.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 9:47:29 AM   
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sounds like a magazine feed spring problem.

Personally, I try to rebuild mags periodically and always go to heavy duty springs.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 9:51:37 AM   
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I was thinking the spring was the problem.
I am more comfortable buying a new clip, than rebuilding one.
Unless you want to rebuild it :)


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 10:37:02 AM   
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I was thinking the spring was the problem.
I am more comfortable buying a new clip, than rebuilding one.
Unless you want to rebuild it :)


Replacing most magazine springs is easy. If it's a popular model of handgun, there's likely even a helpful video floating around the web that'll show you how to do it. If you don't feel up to it and you buy them from your local gun shop instead of online, they'll probably even swap them for you.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 10:44:45 AM   
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Win,

I had MP read your original over my shoulder just now. He says...

"I was a master armorer in the Army. The symptoms you are describing are magazine related, only. The spring that pushes the rounds into the chamber is worn. As the spring wears, it can hold less and less weight. Eventually, it won't be able to push anything in. If you buy a new magazine, it will resolve your issues."

"You can extend the life of you magazine in the future with simple magazine maintenance. All you need to do is slide the base of the magazine off, and the whole assembly will come out. Lightly oil the spring, and by this, it means a condition as such that you will feel only a slight residue on your fingers. Don't get any on the solid piece on top."

"This is the most important thing. Pay very close attention to the orientation of the spring. If you can't remember, take a picture of it. You can practice it on the old magazine, before working on the new ones. Replace the old magazine first because you are at the point of not saving that old one. If you are not comfortable doing this, you can take it to your local gun shop. They will charge you, but you will learn how to do it."



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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 11:36:41 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

My .22 handgun has been failing to chamber and sometimes jamming.
It should hold 8 rounds, but I found I didn't have any problems chambering and firing when I loaded only 7 rounds into the clip
Then six.
Now, I have issues if I load more than 5 rounds.

I think ordering a new magazine clip ( or 2) for it might help.

I could take it in for service, but ordering a new clip would be a cheaper first step.

Any ideas what else it could be?

I like the gun, and I've become comfortable firing it and prefer it over my .380. I just don't see any use for a gun that I can't rely on.

So, any advice from those of you who have experience with this issue?




You've received good advice from the answers given. You did mention you have a .380 also. Stay away from the "low recoil" ammo for the larger calibers. I've had issues with jamming FTF in both my 9mm's and .45's using federal premium HS low recoil loads. Effect both my HK and Springfield. The Glock eats anything oddly enough.
I've never run it through my .380


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 1:31:37 PM   
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Thank you all,

I'm going to order new magazines for both the .22 and the .380 and practice maintenance on the old clips so that Kay and I are comfortable rebuilding and maintaining the new ones. Hurray for YouTube!

CaptR, I use the ammo the dealer who sold me both guns recommended. He is a retired police officer, and has been really helpful. I will have to check and see if the .380 is using a low recoil or not. We buy the ones for target practice so they probably are. He'd kick my butt and ban us if we used the personal protection rounds (hollow point) at the range.

Thanks again y'all, much appreciated.


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 3:52:06 PM   
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The magazine spring was my first thought but also check to see if you need a detail cleaning of the extractor mechanism.

My .22 squirrel rifle gets buildup in the extractor then starts to chimney rounds or fail to load a round. Dental pick removal of buildup and a little CLP alleviates the issue for another thousand rounds or so.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 3:56:59 PM   
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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 4:38:01 PM   
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I like when i jam my cock down there throats and cuddles?

If you can fit your cock down the throat of my .22's barrel, cuddling is about all we can do.
S'all good. I love me some cuddles.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 4:47:04 PM   
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My .22 handgun has been failing to chamber and sometimes jamming.
It should hold 8 rounds, but I found I didn't have any problems chambering and firing when I loaded only 7 rounds into the clip
Then six.
Now, I have issues if I load more than 5 rounds.

I think ordering a new magazine clip ( or 2) for it might help.

I could take it in for service, but ordering a new clip would be a cheaper first step.

Any ideas what else it could be?

I like the gun, and I've become comfortable firing it and prefer it over my .380. I just don't see any use for a gun that I can't rely on.

So, any advice from those of you who have experience with this issue?




What brand of ammo? I would mic it. 99.9999999999% of that stuff is bad ammo. look, you may need a light and a magnifier, do you have lead build up anywhere certain place? do you see brass shavings anywhere. load your mag, thumb them out on the bed, any difference between 9 and 5? harder to push anything, scraping noises? look up the void with a flashlight as well. the blowback and push to lock on a 22 isnt that much, you check for dents on your mag, even small ones, whether the loading end is worn or bent, look how it fits in the gun does it rattle in there? how many rounds been thru it? when if fails to chamber is the bullet moved? hung up? not moved at all? check the lips on the round as well, the spring doesnt get a hard workout, is the mag lock worn or does it still snap? if you work the mech by hand does it never fail?


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 4:48:55 PM   
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The magazine spring was my first thought but also check to see if you need a detail cleaning of the extractor mechanism.

My .22 squirrel rifle gets buildup in the extractor then starts to chimney rounds or fail to load a round. Dental pick removal of buildup and a little CLP alleviates the issue for another thousand rounds or so.


Kay and I have to break down the guns and clean them, I'll grab a dental pick and clean the extractor mechanism; just as soon as I look up what that is.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 4:55:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance

My .22 handgun has been failing to chamber and sometimes jamming.
It should hold 8 rounds, but I found I didn't have any problems chambering and firing when I loaded only 7 rounds into the clip
Then six.
Now, I have issues if I load more than 5 rounds.

I think ordering a new magazine clip ( or 2) for it might help.

I could take it in for service, but ordering a new clip would be a cheaper first step.

Any ideas what else it could be?

I like the gun, and I've become comfortable firing it and prefer it over my .380. I just don't see any use for a gun that I can't rely on.

So, any advice from those of you who have experience with this issue?




What brand of ammo? I would mic it. 99.9999999999% of that stuff is bad ammo. look, you may need a light and a magnifier, do you have lead build up anywhere certain place? do you see brass shavings anywhere. load your mag, thumb them out on the bed, any difference between 9 and 5? harder to push anything, scraping noises? look up the void with a flashlight as well. the blowback and push to lock on a 22 isnt that much, you check for dents on your mag, even small ones, whether the loading end is worn or bent, look how it fits in the gun does it rattle in there? how many rounds been thru it? when if fails to chamber is the bullet moved? hung up? not moved at all? check the lips on the round as well, the spring doesnt get a hard workout, is the mag lock worn or does it still snap? if you work the mech by hand does it never fail?



That's a lot of homework. Thanks for the input, I'm taking notes and will check on all the above.
It's all a bit friendlier than I thought I'd ever be getting with a gun, so I might have to buy it dinner first.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 5:05:42 PM   
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Apparently Kay just did her nails and doesn't want to get gun oil on them. Hard to argue her reasoning.


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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 5:06:58 PM   
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Just replace the magazines first if you have kept them loaded for a long time it causes the spring in them to deform and become weak. Good chance is that a weak spring in the magazine has caused this gradual problem. If new clips don't solve the problem, then do other troubleshooting.

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RE: Question about .22 keeps jamming - 6/9/2017 5:13:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: WinsomeDefiance


quote:

ORIGINAL: MercTech

The magazine spring was my first thought but also check to see if you need a detail cleaning of the extractor mechanism.

My .22 squirrel rifle gets buildup in the extractor then starts to chimney rounds or fail to load a round. Dental pick removal of buildup and a little CLP alleviates the issue for another thousand rounds or so.


Kay and I have to break down the guns and clean them, I'll grab a dental pick and clean the extractor mechanism; just as soon as I look up what that is.

the little extra metal hook on the receiver near the firing pin where the back end of the bullet is. generally the extractor is not involved in the shell loading into the breach, it extracts the shell sorta looks like a tiny hooked finger, and you could imagine that it catches the rim of the shell and throws it out the hole when the gun blows back


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