UllrsIshtar
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ORIGINAL: tamaka I like the bullwhip As a prop, or do you actually know people who can use those things on somebody without scarring and possibly maiming them? I know several who can. There's a guy at Thunder in the Mountains (kink con) who does a scene with 6+ feet bullwhips almost every year (Thunder is about the only place you can do that indoors, because the dungeon is so big). He sometimes cuts the bottom to bleeding, and there's always going to be severe marking, but I haven't seen him scar or maim anybody yet. A lot depends on the whip as well. In the kink community there's a lot of people who mistake signal whips for bullwhips, and use the terms interchangeably. A 6' signal whip is going to be shorter than a 6' bullwhip (because on a proper bullwhip, the handle doesn't get counted towards the length of the whip, and is thus longer than it's stated length). That makes signal whips (usually) easier and safer to use. On top of that you can now get bullwhips in as short as 3' lengths, which make them really quite safe and easy to use indoors. Although if you go with a whip that short I'd recommend a signal whip instead of a bullwhip. You really need 4' minimum to make a proper bullwhip move well, and even that's rather short. But on the up side, 4' bullwhips are really quite feasible for indoor use, depending on the space, and how you use them. They're super easy to control, and handle, which makes them quite safe. You could still seriously hurt somebody with one, but so could you also with almost every impact toy. I happen to prefer four footers, myself. Not just because of the 'indoor'/ceiling height factor. It's also because of my height and my arm span. I've thrown 6' and 12' but never felt I have the skill for proper control. The greater lengths, it can be difficult to have appropriate practice space. A proper whip relates to something that I call 'communing with leather'. (Yep, I just lost 90% of folks.) It's not terribly difficult to understand. It's very much like Doc was saying about the latex/rubber thing. It's not the external. It's rather internal, actually. It's all about how I interact with this thing that I can touch, smell, see the how it and I have come together. It's not about that other person. As an object, a work of art in it's own right, a whip can be a thing of beauty. Something created by a craftsman. Just to see the perfection of the work. As a tool, it will only ever be as good as the person who wields it. What can *they* make it do? Will it be what is often called "the kiss of the whip," gently brushing the skin, or will it cut a person, as though a person is torn open as though they are a fish to be filleted? I agree. Zach and I have a pair of 4' matching signal whips, which we use to co-top (coming at someone from both sides with a whip like and seeing them dance back and forward to try to avoid it is LOADS of fun). 4' is really all we need. It handles well in the house, and in most clubs as well. I never feel limited by it, and you can still get a nice crack from it (for the scare factor of the sound, obviously). I've handled longer whips than those, both bullwhips and signal whips, and they're really not my thing. I am never going to put the time and effort into handling a longer whip well enough for it to be safe for play, and the opportunities to use it would be severely limited. I personally don't like the shorter 3' whips, because I feel I've actually got less control over them because of how short the swing on them is, but for the right person I can see them working well, if handling is adopted to accommodate the shorter length. I think 4' is a happy medium sweet spot between the handling of a real whip, and gentler learning curve of a shorter one.
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