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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/30/2017 10:39:46 AM

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But at 12 years old it is a different story. Why don't you let the kid have a gun, drive your car, have heroin and booze ? BECAUSE THEY ARE TOO FUCKING YOUNG.

What's all this anti 2nd Amendment commie bullshit? The 2nd says 'people' - aren't children people, too?

Not if they're being raised by a lesbian couple, no.

Hmm. I hadn't thought of that.

That seems to be what most of the pissing and moaning in this thread and the OP's link in his OP is about, isn't it?
"These fucking carpet munchers shouldn't be allowed to raise kids. How dare they!"

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/30/2017 11:28:53 AM

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Here is an older, but slightly more balanced, article about this child. Transgender kids: Painful quest to be who they are

But here is what I honestly still don't get.

From the article:

"Transgender children experience a disconnect between their sex, which is anatomy, and their gender, which includes behaviors, roles and activities. In Thomas' case, he has a male body, but he prefers female things likes skirts and dolls, rather than pants and trucks."

And

"Throughout his childhood, Thomas wanted to read Wonder Woman comics rather than Superman, wear rhinestone-studded hairbands instead of baseball caps and play with dolls rather than action figures. And, his parents said, he kept insisting he was a girl."

Reading Wonder Woman, wearing skirts, and playing with dolls doesn't make a person female. So why are we trying to change the body to match the perception?

Also from the article: "Moreno and Lobel allowed their child pick his own clothes at age 8. Thomas chose girl's clothing and also picked four bras." Yeah, no eight year old needs bras, male or female, save for the few early-developed young girls that we know are out there. This alone tells me that the guardians are a little fucked in the head. A training bra, maybe, for a young girl who is interested in what's ahead of her, sure. Four bras? For what, dress up? That's fucked up.

Here are the problems;

First this runs to interfering with the religion of the carpet munchers, where does the gubmint, anyone outside the home have the 'legitimate' authority to tell you which religion to raise your kid? Is circumcision outlawed? How about choosing the sex of hermaphrodites, is that outlawed?

Next you have the asswipe(s) next door carving out specific slots someone must fit into, giving it a name, then creating a complete system around those 'titles'.

Examining these issues closer it gets to what is worse, a little boy raised in a man hater environment forced to fit into a 'publically' defined slot for the purpose of gubmint, who is never comfortable as a boy, or a little boy who fits naturally into the environment he was brought up in?

How can he know what being a little boy is if he identifies as a little girl and is raised as a little girl in an all girl environment?

How do you know you missed something if you never experienced it in the first place?

Which goes full circle back to religion and gubmint. Religion being the choice of the parent, gubmint creating slots and other people trying to dictate your religion the source of the problem.

BUT there is a bright side, it give people something to fight over for 100 years and keeps the judicial system and gubmint rolling in cash.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/30/2017 3:45:21 PM

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If you don't even think that people should be of the age of majority before making such decisions, you are sick. Maybe those who associate kinksters with perverts are right.

Thank you for your well reasoned opinion.

Your colorful detour into adoption, man-hating cunts, cars, guns, bank accounts, tattoos, and such aside; I'm still waiting to hear about all of the horrible "permanent effects" these children get from this. Did you get your information about it from the same source who told you about how post-GRS women have to "keep that thing stuffed all the time or it will close up" on them? If so, it would explain a lot.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/30/2017 11:28:28 PM

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How about choosing the sex of hermaphrodites, is that outlawed?

Actually, I corresponded with someone born a hermaphrodite, the politically correct term now is intersexed. The Parents decided they wanted a boy, but that didn't work out so well when she started growing breasts.

We got on PM, and she told me that she has NEVER had an orgasm. She was born in Canada, and the law was changed because of her, they are not allowed to do anything to you now.

That is a big part of the problem with that Lesbian couple giving that boy hormones. He is too young and cannot even consent to get a fucking ear piercing, but they can do this ?

In California, I guess so. Keep me out of that fucking place.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/30/2017 11:32:06 PM

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"These fucking carpet munchers shouldn't be allowed to raise kids.

Those particular ones, no. Keep them away/

Others could be a different story, but them ones there have no business raising a boy.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:07:48 AM

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"These fucking carpet munchers shouldn't be allowed to raise kids.

Those particular ones, no. Keep them away/

Others could be a different story, but them ones there have no business raising a boy.

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You've still not stated why this particular case requires intervention from the federal government and its tax funded agencies unlike other cases involving kids whose parents are abusing, failing to feed, or denying medical attention to them. Given your usual horror of nanny state behaviour, the fact that you're willing to make an exception in this case is worth investigating.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 2:09:00 PM

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OK then, give the kid fucking heroin. He'll enjoy it.

If you don't understand the concept of "Too fucking young" then you should not be around kids either.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 2:19:42 PM

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Why do you ask whoremods to give a kid heroin?

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 3:05:30 PM

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I get the impression from some of the posts that at least some people aren't really thinking of this from a humanity angle. The original article posted in the OP was obviously written from a very biased standpoint. (I'm not sure if it's about hatred for lesbians, trans* persons, or both, but it's ridiculously apparent.) I wonder if people are thinking of this at all in the way of what it would be to be walking in these people's shoes.

People on CM have a little bit of an advantage because, whether a person agrees with trans* issues or not, you (the reader) at least have some knowledge. We've had these kinds of threads for years, so you know that some kids are being diagnosed with gender dysphoria as early as age three and there's more of them being diagnosed as the years go on. You've probably got more information than the average person that doesn't know anybody who is trans*, so that's kind of in your favor.

Continue the thought. Your child, who is three, insists on a regular basis that they are not the gender that matches their body. It's not a random thing. It's not make-believe. It's often enough they you ask your child's doctor about it. Your doctor (or additional medical professionals) gives your child a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

What do you do now? You've got some decisions to make. You know that doing nothing, forcing your child to live as their physical gender, and things similar to this, are detrimental to your child. What kind of damage will that do? You know that no matter what you do, it's going to be tough on your child.

As your kid gets older and is getting closer to puberty, you and your child are going to have to examine what's going to happen to their body. Those secondary characteristics of gender, without hormone blockers, are going to happen. If your child still insists that they are not the gender that matches their physical body, that they really are a trans* person who intends to medically transition once they are an adult, allowing those characteristic to develop is going to make that harder. If your decision has been to allow your child to live as the gender they identify as, rather than the match of their physical body, how hard is it going to be for your m2f child to grow facial hair or your f2m child to develop breasts? What will that do to your child? On top of that, how is society going to treat your child? What's going to happen to your child when they go to school? Will your decisions make your child's life better or worse?

Nobody wants their child's life to be more painful than it has to be. Nobody.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 3:11:21 PM

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humanity - is something I truly love ladypact

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 3:39:40 PM

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OK then, give the kid fucking heroin. He'll enjoy it.

Even for you, this is epic idiocy.

If you can lay off the MD 20/20 long enough to formulate a coherent response, I'm still waiting for you to elaborate on the horrible "permanent effects" you claim this treatment brings.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 3:55:17 PM

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and which of you are reality and to sit in judgement pathetic fuks

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:13:23 PM

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Take your meds, headcase.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:14:42 PM

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OK then, give the kid fucking heroin. He'll enjoy it.

Even for you, this is epic idiocy.

If you can lay off the MD 20/20 long enough to formulate a coherent response, I'm still waiting for you to elaborate on the horrible "permanent effects" you claim this treatment brings.

I never said horrible. I said the kid is too young.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:31:52 PM

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and which of you are reality and to sit in judgement pathetic fuks

I believe it is right to let nature take its course. The kid was born a boy. Once eighteen, he can have his dick cut off or whatever he wants. (actually that is not what happens) But at 12 he is not into puberty, probably never kissed a girl, and I don't mean Aunt Rosie. Maybe never even jacked off.

What people are not getting here is that I am not really against this, except for the the fact that he is too fucking young.

I have also stated that like at maybe 15 or 16, if he stays that way, maybe it is OK. Many boys have had sex by that age, or are at least pursuing it. Human nature.

And bitch over there wants to throw ad hominems at me for pointing this out. Bottom line, 12 is too fucking young. The doctor should have refused to do this, he should lose his license. The kid should be taken away from these cunt.

Once the kid is older, and if he still wants this, then by all means let him have it. But first he has the experiences that matter.

And even at this age if he wants to live as a girl, fine. But don't start pumping hormones into him.

I can't believe this discussion even exists. It should be common knowledge not to fuck with kids. That includes their hormones. Shit like this, people advocating it, is making me lose faith in the kink community. If you think it is alright to give a 12 year old a bunch of hormones, stay the fuck away from me.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:34:35 PM

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The decision on how to treat gender dysphoria should be made by parents and the child's medical team. Not all children who have gender dysphoria will decide they are transgendered.

Puberty blockers prevent some of the more permanent secondary sex characteristics from occurring, such as broadening shoulders and deepening voices for boys and widening hips for girls. Lady Pact already mentioned some others in her excellent post.

Puberty blockers simply serve as a pause button until a treatment plan is sorted out and can reduce distress for a child with gender dysphoria.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 4:46:30 PM

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I never said horrible. I said the kid is too young.

What are the permanent effects you referred to from delaying the onset of puberty?

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 5:36:14 PM

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You tell me.

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 5:47:42 PM

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LP noted a few of the changes they stop above. How permanent the damage the puberty blockers cause is most likely highly variable, depending on several factors

It's a chemical castration, right?

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RE: Lesbian Couple Chemically Altering Their 11-year-ol... - 7/31/2017 5:47:52 PM

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anyone genuine?

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