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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:09:42 AM   
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Hardly surprising, seeing as they are generally a bunch of redneck motherfuckers.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:15:18 AM   
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Until about 20 years ago, drivers sat in their car during the anthem.

Who was screaming then?
Musta been Clinton's fault.

You will bow to dear leader! You will sign the national song! You will wave his flag!

Or to the gulag with you for reconditioning.


Only an utter fool like you could be gullible enough to fall for another one of the big chickens childish lies

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:21:45 AM   
Musicmystery


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You will bow to Dear Leader! You will sign the national song! You will wave his flag! You will worship at his church!

Or to the gulag with you for reconditioning.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:26:10 AM   
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Until about 20 years ago, drivers sat in their car during the anthem.

Who was screaming then?
Musta been Clinton's fault.

You will bow to dear leader! You will sign the national song! You will wave his flag!

Or to the gulag with you for reconditioning.


Only an utter fool like you could be gullible enough to fall for another one of the big chickens childish lies

https://sports.yahoo.com/wasnt-long-ago-nascar-drivers-sat-cars-national-anthem-204239515.html
10 seconds to once again prove you to be a lying fuckwit

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:27:43 AM   
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I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:27:49 AM   
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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:37:25 AM   
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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.


yeah because requiring someone to stand during the national anthem as a condition of their employment is akin to totalitarianism.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 8:44:10 AM   
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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.

And threatening to shoot the uppity democrat in the white house to protect America's freedoms, don't forget.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:15:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Taking the knee is showing respect and not disrespectful. The Flag and the Constitution are sacred are the arguments paraded whilst conveniently overlooking the fact they are expressing freedom of speech. At least they have not taken up arms.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:22:34 AM   
bounty44


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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:31:22 AM   
NoirMetal


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Status: offline 		people are tuning these teams out in protest to having politics injected into their entertainment without their consent.

Loss of revenue and pissed off sponsors will eventually kill these antics.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:31:34 AM   
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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.


yeah because requiring someone to stand during the national anthem as a condition of their employment is akin to totalitarianism.

Easy for them to say they will fire anyone who does not stand for the flag when there are no black drivers and probably very few blacks among the pit workers. Oh wait, this is not about race, is it?

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:35:21 AM   
heavyblinker


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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.


yeah because requiring someone to stand during the national anthem as a condition of their employment is akin to totalitarianism.


This isn't about that and you know it.
People are boycotting the games because they think everyone MUST respect the flag at all times.

Of course, it's not really a secret that RWNJs are raging hypocrites.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:36:01 AM   
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http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/sep/24/donald-trump/trumps-mostly-false-claim-nfl-ratings-are-way-down/

Football (and NASCAR) are a way of life for the fans who follow it. Nothing is going to change that.

Certainly not this silly tempest in a tea pot.

Or tantrum in a trump tweak storm.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 9:54:24 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry, but the "original kneeler" as you put was protesting about black people being shot to death by policemen, so it has EVERYTHING to do with color...

Also I don't think an employer can take away someone's constitutional rights, period.

I think that Kapaernick has a valid pont. Stand and respect the National anthem or the flag, or whatever, IF IT DESERVES RESPECT. The way things are right now what is there to rspect?

It's just like the Presidency. You should respect that, but if the holder of the office doesn't respect it, then why should I/we?

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Dictating how their people can act, protest or otherwise... reminds me of why we had a civil war...

And someone, please, tell me how taking a knee during the national anthem is disrespecting anything.

I read an interesting comparison between Kapaernick and Tebow and what the differences are between one kneeling and the other, and why one is OK and the other is not.

A lot has to do with color...


sorry---little or nothing to do with color and its a part of the conditions of employment.

when the heavily expected and historical convention is to stand, and the standing is done as a show of respect, then kneeling runs contrary to it.

that is especially so when the original "kneeler" makes statements somewhat to that affect.




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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 10:17:45 AM   
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I would rather see the players take a knee than to see them sit on their butts.

There is a bigger picture that everyone seems to be missing.

For all the progress this country has made since MLK jr, there is more to be done.

For all Americans, not just black ones.


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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 12:35:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have mixed opinions about this. First of all, it's NASCAR so I don't care.

Other than that, I was taught to humble yourself when praying, by kneeling, and speaking softly, or in your head since God hears all that too, unless you're leading the prayer.

So I see any action demanding how someone prays, or if they choose to at all, as a religious violation.

I think the National Anthem is an unnecessary dog & pony show, absent of any and all mandated prayer, as Constitutionally required. Thus, the people paying the enormous salaries of these "athletes" have every right to demand whatever they please.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 12:57:13 PM   
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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.

And threatening to shoot the uppity democrat in the white house to protect America's freedoms, don't forget.


Where Democrats actually shoot Republican Congressmen. I remember you complaining that he wasn't a good
enough shot.


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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 12:59:30 PM   
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Oh hey remember when it was always the right-wing rednecks who were all about standing up and fighting for freedom?
I guess that they actually meant the freedoms that they personally choose for everyone.


yeah because requiring someone to stand during the national anthem as a condition of their employment is akin to totalitarianism.

Easy for them to say they will fire anyone who does not stand for the flag when there are no black drivers and probably very few blacks among the pit workers. Oh wait, this is not about race, is it?

It isn't about race, but it is about the race.

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RE: NASCAR owners threaten to fire anyone who protests ... - 9/25/2017 1:15:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Kinkroids, as I've been writing (and Richards Childress and Petty are fucking accomplices) this is the birth pangs of the capitalist extorted fascism (police state) coming to America. Ridicule all you want but this is the required modern gradual approach with your consent and unlike the Mussolini method using his cult of personality. (remind you of someone ?)

Those who fought our wars did so and died to protect our right to kneel down instead of stand to a war song. Nascar will now shrink in audience because they are running out of the bible-toting, flag wavers that drool all over it. (white of course)

As has been said and I may be paraphrasing here, fascism will come to America voluntarily...dragging a cross draped in the flag.

The very concept of being fired for expressing you constitutional rights, is anathema to our constitutional form of govt. If there any firings in NASCAR, then I suspect there will be lawsuits and that should win.

So I am waiting for the first federal court to endorse (sanction) what would be a re-writing of court precedent...nobody can force anybody to sign away their constitutional rights except the military.

Well, at least for now...they can't. Just give them time.



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