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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 12:12:54 AM

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We're still here, dude.

I'd like to share with you something MP brought to my attention. I thought the timing was impeccable.

"We talk about how many women were raped last year, not about how many men raped women. We talk about how many girls in a sschool district were harassed last year, not about how many boys harassed girls. We talk about how many teenage girls is the state... Go pregnant last year, rather than how any men and boys impregnated teenage girls."

"So you can see how the use of the passive voice has a political effect. {It} shifts the focus off of men and boys and onto girls and women. Even the term 'violence against women' is problematic. It's a passiv construction; there is no active agent in the sentence. It's a bad thing that happens to women, but when you look at the term 'violence against women,' nobody is doing it TO them. It just happens to them. Men aren't even a part of it!"

Author - Jackson Katz.

Now, you can interchange terms as you please. Just like people choose to use the term social justice warriors, rather than calling us activists these days. You can snot down your nose all you like, but where would you have been without us? You'd be sitting at the white's only lunch counter, across the street from the synagogue that people were afraid to attend, just down the way from the hospital where same sex life partners had no legal right in medical decisions, where down the hall, people can't pee in a pubic restroom for fear of being beaten.

We're still here, dude. Sorry you seem to have missed us.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 5:06:35 AM

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i like your Jackson katz perspective very much...

although im not quite seeing how it jibes with Michael's post, but independent from that, I think you are missing his point---that had Weinstein been a figure on the right, the left (here and elsewhere) would have been all over it in a heartbeat, and they weren't.

plus the "war on women" phrase was one the left used concerning the right for whenever the right engaged, or was charged with engaging, the same behavior that one of their (the left) own not just heavily engaged in, but knew about for years and did nothing.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 7:20:51 AM

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 7:54:33 AM

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You hear that giant sucking sound? That the sound of the balls (figurative) of all the PPLs - so concerned about any "War on women" - shriveling up.

I'm glad to see the sewer that is Hollywood is going to be under some serious investigations. Perhaps some of the more principled movie studios can start making some headway.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 11:06:26 AM

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i like your Jackson katz perspective very much...

although im not quite seeing how it jibes with Michael's post, but independent from that, I think you are missing his point---that had Weinstein been a figure on the right, the left (here and elsewhere) would have been all over it in a heartbeat, and they weren't.

plus the "war on women" phrase was one the left used concerning the right for whenever the right engaged, or was charged with engaging, the same behavior that one of their (the left) own not just heavily engaged in, but knew about for years and did nothing.

I will be happy to tell MP that you said so. It was his find.

Now, I'm perfectly cool if the point to this was my lack of not knowing the players without a score card as far as who is supposed to be on the right or left of this thing. Don't care what campaign contributions or politicians Weinstein supported over the years or what his political thoughts happen to be. I'm much more focused on did the person commit the crime(s) and if they did, should their butt be in jail? More often than not, if the answer to that last part is yes, I'm a huge supporter in locking the person up. They don't get points because they are a Republican, Democrat, right or left. To me, all of that crud is secondary.

Is anybody, right or left, actually defending this guy?? It's practically impossible to keep up with everybody even remotely associated with him that doesn't have a twitter or other social media account that's had something to say about it. That's a long list of people, and so far, I haven't seen anybody come out and say what this guy did was OK. Considering Weinstein has practically admitted to his so-called 'mistakes,' it's not really a question. (Personally, I have no clue why Weinstein's attorney didn't tell him to keep his trap shut because he's obliterating his own defense if any of this goes to trial.)

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 11:36:31 AM

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i like your Jackson katz perspective very much...

although im not quite seeing how it jibes with Michael's post, but independent from that, I think you are missing his point---that had Weinstein been a figure on the right, the left (here and elsewhere) would have been all over it in a heartbeat, and they weren't.

plus the "war on women" phrase was one the left used concerning the right for whenever the right engaged, or was charged with engaging, the same behavior that one of their (the left) own not just heavily engaged in, but knew about for years and did nothing.

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http://www.collarchat.com/m_4930842/mpage_1/key_roger%252Cailes/tm.htm#4931030
yes, the right were very quiet on this topic, why?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 12:22:00 PM

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its not that no one isn't saying what the guy did was okay, its that the people who are first in line to decry such activities dragged their heels when this came to light, and that it took so many years to come to light---presumably because the guy was on the left---thereby also rendering the left wing acrid phrase "war on women" (as a de facto right wing position) somewhat null.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 12:22:58 PM

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presumably because the guy was on the left

You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 1:10:44 PM

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presumably because the guy was on the left

You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

Or that it had anything to do with left or right. It was about a man who held incredible power, using it to manipulate and threaten the lives of others. Same crap that goes on all over the world in many circles, left and right.

To say that people kept quiet because he might have been a lefty is pure partisan bullshit. If that was the case, then Fox news is full of lefty comrades.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 1:59:16 PM

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its not that no one isn't saying what the guy did was okay, its that the people who are first in line to decry such activities dragged their heels when this came to light, and that it took so many years to come to light---presumably because the guy was on the left---thereby also rendering the left wing acrid phrase "war on women" (as a de facto right wing position) somewhat null.

That might have been the OP's intent with the original statement. I don't look at it that way at all.

Nobody ever wants to think their friend, co-worker, <insert association type here> that they actually like is a sexual predator. It's very common for people to interpret a person depending on our own interactions with said person as it relates to how they treat us as individuals because it's our first person perspective. When something like this comes out about our 'friend,' there's shock, disbelief, ('cause remember, he's such a nice guy, at least to us) anger, and all of the other processing emotions that people have when such information is revealed. It's not always 'wink, wink, nudge, nudge' because everyone knew what was really going on. He managed to hide this from at least some people, including the person he was married to for ten years.

We don't like to admit it, but the huge majority of us know someone who has sexually assaulted someone in the past*** and we're just not aware. For those of us who are in the kink community, this stuff happens all of the time, and even though we know it happens, we don't want to believe it's somebody we know. I sure wouldn't want to and it would take me a day or two to wrap my head around it.

*** I don't mean in the kinky fun kind of way. I'm trying to keep those issues separate.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 3:17:54 PM

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in terms of meaning and intent, hopefully Michael will stop back in and add to the conversation, although im pretty confident I picked up on what he was saying.

that said however, while I do agree in principle with what youre saying, im not sure its wholly applicable in Weinstein's case. truth be told though, ive not followed it closely enough to speak definitively.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 3:33:54 PM

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presumably because the guy was on the left

You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

How many politicians from the right did Weinstein contribute to?

By the by...an interesting aside: Hillary Clinton has stated that she gives 10% of her income to charitable causes. She noted that her contributions from Weinstein will be "part of (not separate from) that 10 % this year".

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 3:48:48 PM

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You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

seriously?

a few snippets from headlines and descriptions:

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A high-profile donor in the Democratic Party, Weinstein has contributed more $20,000 to Clinton's

Hollywood Titan, Hillary Donor Harvey Weinstein

The Clintons and Obama did not immediately respond to the report on long-time Democratic Party donor Harvey Weinstein

Hillary Clinton spoke out against longtime donor Harvey Weinstein

The revelations of Hillary donor Harvey Weinstein are only revelations to us normals; everyone in Hollywood knew about Hillary donor Harvey Weinstein’s (bonus material there)

Hillary Clinton, Obamas Condemn Longtime Democratic Donor

Harvey Weinstein is one of the Democratic Party's most prolific donors

The film mogul has been a major donor and fundraiser for Democratic causes and candidates, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton,

Fellow Democrats are donating money Harvey Weinstein gave them to charities, but Hillary Clinton has ... Weinstein was a major donor and bundler for the ex ...

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 4:49:09 PM

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You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

Why is his political affiliation in any way relevant?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 4:50:53 PM

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You've still yet to show your working out that he's on the left.

Why is his political affiliation in any way relevant?

Because posters are claiming that since he was a member of the left, other lefties ignored his misdeeds over the years.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 4:59:59 PM

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in terms of meaning and intent, hopefully Michael will stop back in and add to the conversation, although im pretty confident I picked up on what he was saying.

that said however, while I do agree in principle with what youre saying, im not sure its wholly applicable in Weinstein's case. truth be told though, ive not followed it closely enough to speak definitively.

I could be wrong about the intent of the thread. I have no problem admitting that I'm not perfect.

I'll admit something else as well. In this past ~month, I have probably read more news stories than I had in the three months prior. The storms in TX, FL, and PR, the Vegas shootings, more cases about child abuse than I'd care to count and I don't know what else. That's even before we talk about things that happen in our kink communities that really won't make 'news' unless somebody dies, is burned beyond recognition, or they are seriously a hostage/kidnap victim.

The electronic information age is wonderful, but there is also so much of it. I'm not sure how most people have enough hours in the day to keep track of it all.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 6:13:14 PM

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its not that no one isn't saying what the guy did was okay, its that the people who are first in line to decry such activities dragged their heels when this came to light, and that it took so many years to come to light---presumably because the guy was on the left---thereby also rendering the left wing acrid phrase "war on women" (as a de facto right wing position) somewhat null.

You think he tweaked Hillary Clinton's left tit? Or propositioned her for sexual favors in return for his campaign contributions?

So how the fuck was she 'supposed to know'?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/14/2017 6:14:27 PM

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Yeah, I have no fucking clue what the OP is rambling on about either.

Fuck it.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/15/2017 12:44:11 AM

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Yeah, I have no fucking clue what the OP is rambling on about either.

I have tried to be courteous to you, even though you've been little more than a douche-canoe to me. let me see if I can break this down for you, you Howdy-Doody-looking neophyte:

First off: How the blue fuck does a four sentence post qualify as a "ramble"? Really? Then, you are one rambling mother fucker on several occasions. Beyond that ...

My point was: in the last few weeks we seem to have been treated to the likes of Ben Affleck and other SJW types admitting that they were cognizant of Weinstein's proclivities. They go on to insinuate that he was so powerful they dared not speak out about the abuse (this put's that Kory kid's testimony into new light).

Sometimes, doing the right thing incurs a cost. They didn't want to lose their careers. Boo-Fuckin'-Hoo.

For decades (some reports say), they have remained silent and thereby enabled the behavior. Then, they have the unmitigated gall to lecture us about morality? Fuck them.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/15/2017 4:19:46 AM

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its not that no one isn't saying what the guy did was okay, its that the people who are first in line to decry such activities dragged their heels when this came to light, and that it took so many years to come to light---presumably because the guy was on the left---thereby also rendering the left wing acrid phrase "war on women" (as a de facto right wing position) somewhat null.

You think he tweaked Hillary Clinton's left tit? Or propositioned her for sexual favors in return for his campaign contributions?

So how the fuck was she 'supposed to know'?

I didn't say anything directly or even imply that Hillary knew anything about his past. her name only came along for the ride in conjunction with my giving support that Weinstein is a leftie.

on top of that, I wasn't even thinking specifically thinking of her when I used the phrase "dragged their heels." she wasn't the only one who did so.

the two are not necessarily related and can be in fact, distinct aspects of the case.

why all that had to be explicitly said is a little puzzling.

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