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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/17/2017 9:30:51 AM

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Except that It was Democrats that began returning Weinstein donations to show their purity and Clinton that refused. No republicans believe that NRA donations are less pure or connected to sick people killing people. That's a judgement Democrats are making. For democrats to project their angst onto the NRA isn't equatable. Nobody on the right is saying the Clinton's have to atone for Weinstein, we're just laughing at the Clinton's being caught in their own trap and showing, once again, that their real God/purpose is making themselves powerful and rich.

I don't pay a whole lot of attention to disgraced she-cunts (Hillary Rotten), but I think two things are being conflated, here:

What I first heard was the DNC and individual lefty candidates were planning on returning any Weinstein donations. The she-cunt was asked if she was going to return contributions, also.

Her answer was: "We give 10% to charity, every year. This money will be part of that."

Let's break that down: The money won't be added to her normal charitable contributions. So, it will (essentially) NOT be returned.

Then, the Clinton "charities" were brought into it. The spokesperson for the "charities" said: "That money has already been spent."

The left seems to have an issue with the idea that money is fungible. Planned Parenthood receives $500,000,000 a year. They claim none of "that" money is used to provide abortions. What they don't understand is "that" money being given to them means they can spend $500,000,000 more of their private donations to fund abortions.

It's the same thing with the Clinton "charities". "That" money came in and was spent. They have NO MORE money? That's all the "charities" had was the $250,000 that Weinstein is reported to have given?

Let me be clear: I don't think any real charity should be shamed into returning any donation, no matter whence it originated.

Hillary, the politician, should return any contributions given for her candidacy because by (the Left's) definition, it's an attempt at buying political influence.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/17/2017 9:41:10 AM

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What do you think of trump jr having his legal bills paid by campaign funds and RNC funds?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-lawyers-exclusive/trump-using-campaign-rnc-funds-to-pay-legal-bills-from-russia-probe-sources-idUSKCN1BU2OS

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is using money donated to his re-election campaign and the Republican National Committee to pay for his lawyers in the probe of alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Following Reuters exclusive report on Tuesday, CNN reported that the Republican National Committee paid in August more than $230,000 to cover some of Trump’s legal fees related to the probe.

RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile confirmed to Reuters that Trump’s lead lawyer, John Dowd, received $100,000 from the RNC and that the RNC also paid $131,250 to the Constitutional Litigation and Advocacy Group, the law firm where Jay Sekulow, another of Trump’s lawyers, is a partner.

The RNC is scheduled to disclose its August spending on Wednesday. The Trump campaign is due for a disclosure on Oct. 15.

The U.S. Federal Election Commission allows the use of private campaign funds to pay legal bills arising from being a candidate or elected official.

While previous presidential campaigns have used these funds to pay for routine legal matters such as ballot access disputes and compliance requirements, Trump would be the first U.S. president in the modern campaign finance era to use such funds to cover the costs of responding to a criminal probe, said election law experts.

Smedile said the RNC payments to Trump’s lawyers were ”from a pre-existing legal proceedings account and do not reduce by a dime the resources we can put towards our political work.”

It was not clear how Trump’s legal costs related to the Russia probe would be allocated between the campaign and the RNC, one of the sources said.

Dowd declined to say how the president’s legal bills were being paid, adding: “That’s none of your business.”

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/17/2017 9:53:02 AM

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What do you think of trump jr having his legal bills paid by campaign funds and RNC funds?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-lawyers-exclusive/trump-using-campaign-rnc-funds-to-pay-legal-bills-from-russia-probe-sources-idUSKCN1BU2OS

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is using money donated to his re-election campaign and the Republican National Committee to pay for his lawyers in the probe of alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Following Reuters exclusive report on Tuesday, CNN reported that the Republican National Committee paid in August more than $230,000 to cover some of Trump’s legal fees related to the probe.

RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile confirmed to Reuters that Trump’s lead lawyer, John Dowd, received $100,000 from the RNC and that the RNC also paid $131,250 to the Constitutional Litigation and Advocacy Group, the law firm where Jay Sekulow, another of Trump’s lawyers, is a partner.

The RNC is scheduled to disclose its August spending on Wednesday. The Trump campaign is due for a disclosure on Oct. 15.

The U.S. Federal Election Commission allows the use of private campaign funds to pay legal bills arising from being a candidate or elected official.

While previous presidential campaigns have used these funds to pay for routine legal matters such as ballot access disputes and compliance requirements, Trump would be the first U.S. president in the modern campaign finance era to use such funds to cover the costs of responding to a criminal probe, said election law experts.

Smedile said the RNC payments to Trump’s lawyers were ”from a pre-existing legal proceedings account and do not reduce by a dime the resources we can put towards our political work.”

It was not clear how Trump’s legal costs related to the Russia probe would be allocated between the campaign and the RNC, one of the sources said.

Dowd declined to say how the president’s legal bills were being paid, adding: “That’s none of your business.”

Why would anyone care if it's a legal thing to do? On top of that, since the whole Russian thing is turning out to be a left wing nut job political attack anyway, it would seem reasonable to use political money to defend against political attacks. Also, didn't Trump self fund a lot of his campaign?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/forgiving-campaign-loans-trump-fulfills-his-pledge-self-fund-primary-n613536

Something, of course, Hillary would never do as she believed we all deserved her enough to both finance her and pay to play with her.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/17/2017 11:08:33 AM

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What do you think of trump jr having his legal bills paid by campaign funds and RNC funds?
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-lawyers-exclusive/trump-using-campaign-rnc-funds-to-pay-legal-bills-from-russia-probe-sources-idUSKCN1BU2OS

NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump is using money donated to his re-election campaign and the Republican National Committee to pay for his lawyers in the probe of alleged Russian interference in the U.S. election, two people familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Following Reuters exclusive report on Tuesday, CNN reported that the Republican National Committee paid in August more than $230,000 to cover some of Trump’s legal fees related to the probe.

RNC spokesperson Cassie Smedile confirmed to Reuters that Trump’s lead lawyer, John Dowd, received $100,000 from the RNC and that the RNC also paid $131,250 to the Constitutional Litigation and Advocacy Group, the law firm where Jay Sekulow, another of Trump’s lawyers, is a partner.

The RNC is scheduled to disclose its August spending on Wednesday. The Trump campaign is due for a disclosure on Oct. 15.

The U.S. Federal Election Commission allows the use of private campaign funds to pay legal bills arising from being a candidate or elected official.

While previous presidential campaigns have used these funds to pay for routine legal matters such as ballot access disputes and compliance requirements, Trump would be the first U.S. president in the modern campaign finance era to use such funds to cover the costs of responding to a criminal probe, said election law experts.

Smedile said the RNC payments to Trump’s lawyers were ”from a pre-existing legal proceedings account and do not reduce by a dime the resources we can put towards our political work.”

It was not clear how Trump’s legal costs related to the Russia probe would be allocated between the campaign and the RNC, one of the sources said.

Dowd declined to say how the president’s legal bills were being paid, adding: “That’s none of your business.”

Why would anyone care if it's a legal thing to do? On top of that, since the whole Russian thing is turning out to be a left wing nut job political attack anyway, it would seem reasonable to use political money to defend against political attacks. Also, didn't Trump self fund a lot of his campaign?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/forgiving-campaign-loans-trump-fulfills-his-pledge-self-fund-primary-n613536

Something, of course, Hillary would never do as she believed we all deserved her enough to both finance her and pay to play with her.

It looks like Hillary and Obama both just had the Russians pay all their bills

FBI uncovered Russian bribery plot before Obama administration approved controversial nuclear deal with Moscow

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/355749-fbi-uncovered-russian-bribery-plot-before-obama-administration

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/17/2017 11:20:44 AM

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I just put that in a new post. I didn't see yours.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 4:24:15 AM

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Honestly, get a life. You are exactly the kind of people I find so amusing. You are on a site that is more or less advocating all sort of, shall we say, unnormal behavior and Weinstein force kissing women sets you to ranting. You need to get a grip.

You really don't get it do you? Or, perhaps more accurately, you really don't want to get it do you?

It has been repeatedly pointed out to you by me and others that this is not about some well meaning nice guy "forcing a kiss" on some gold digging hussy.

The allegations against Weinstein include rape and other serious sexual assaults, allegations made by over 20 women living in different places, different continents even over a period exceeding two decades. It is striking that despite many of the victims not knowing each other, despite the time, location and other differences in the circumstances, the MO in the allegations are more or less the same. Critically, in each and every case, the predator pressured the women into a situation they never consented to.

There is a world of difference between "forcing a kiss" and the allegations against Weinstein, a world of difference that you are refusing to acknowledge, a world of difference that you are glossing over with no apparent motivation other than a desire to invent some mitigating excuse for the predator.

You are gratuitously slandering these women as gold diggers out for "!5 mins of fame and fortune". There is absolutely no evidence in the public arena that supports your malice. In glaring contrast to the lengths you go to to try to put a positive gloss on the predator's behaviour, you fail utterly to show any compassion for the predator's victims preferring to viciously denigrate them. Their only apparent crime is that they reported rapes sexual assaults and other crimes committed by a serial predator who cynically and ruthlessly abused them.

If you find it "amusing" that some of us fail to find the humour in this situation, then you are one big seriously fucked up moral vacuum. You make Neanderthals seem progressive. Thanks be that you and your type are dying off. It can't happen quick enough.

No, I'm afraid you are the one who just doesn't get it.

You need to take a good look around, you are not on the good little miss two shoes site, home of righteous indignation.

You are on Collarchat, yes there are what appear to be some very nice people on this site and that is why I'm here, not because I'm a particularly nice person but because I like talking to them.

But you need to keep in mind that this is Collarchat and that this is the home of some very unsavory people and you seem to think that I'm one of them but really take a look a good look around and you might notice I'm not even close.

You need to keep in mind what the term Collarchat implies. That’s Collarchat, as in a slave Collar, need I remind you that there is no legal slavery in the US. When comes to slavery there is no such thing as “consent”. A person can consent verbally and then sign a consent form with a 1,000 witnesses and it still is not considered legal consent for slavery.

I have never “okayed” what Weinstein has been accused of nor do I find it to be amusing in the least but once again, moral outrage about it on a site which for the most part is without morals is humorous.

So, if you can't find the irony in the moral outrage on a site which for the most part is without morals, then you need to get your sense of humor checked cause it’s broken.

As for this; “If you find it "amusing" that some of us fail to find the humour in this situation, then you are one big seriously fucked up moral vacuum. You make Neanderthals seem progressive“, thanks for the complement because this is probably who I am and why I’m here and you need to get used to it or find another site to rant about your “moral” outrage. ;-)

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 4:30:17 AM

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FFS who cares if she returns the money or not?
It's money.

Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 6:58:19 AM

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Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

Yet someone much poorer like Kevin Smith is donating all future reoccuring proceeds from Weinstein related productions that he received to women charities.

Always been a fan of Kevin Smith movies! Go Silent Bob!

I think it's just a good gesture to say that he stands behind the women who were hurt by Weinstein.

Clinton could at least use the money, to perhaps provide free litigation services to women who were raped or sexually assaulted by rich powerful people.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 7:09:33 AM

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Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

Yet someone much poorer like Kevin Smith is donating all future reoccuring proceeds from Weinstein related productions that he received to women charities.

Always been a fan of Kevin Smith movies! Go Silent Bob!

I think it's just a good gesture to say that he stands behind the women who were hurt by Weinstein.

Clinton could at least use the money, to perhaps provide free litigation services to women who were raped or sexually assaulted by rich powerful people.

Yes, these are all nice things to do... but again, Weinstein didn't get the money by raping people... the money is clean, but the person is bad.
The Clintons already run a charity that 'increases opportunities for women and girls' around the world, btw.

I also think it's kinda funny that people are upset about this while Trump accepted money from the fucking Russian mafia, who aren't exactly known for being morally upstanding people.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 7:15:40 AM

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The Clintons already run a charity that 'increases opportunities for women and girls' around the world, btw.

So she should expand her work to help women from the Clinton foundation to help sexual assault victims intimated by the rich. I feel like it's very politically correct to do something harmless by only helping women overseas. Stay out of helping women in America, incase she steps on donors toes.

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I also think it's kinda funny that people are upset about this while Trump accepted money from the fucking Russian mafia, who aren't exactly known for being morally upstanding people.

I thought it's illegal for foreign people to fund US election candidates? IF Trump was funded by foreigners, he would have been disqualified right?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 8:20:29 AM

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FFS who cares if she returns the money or not?
It's money.

Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

Oh idiot Google boy. It's not people on the right saying give the money back. It's the more moral than thou on the left giving it back to show purity and the Clinton's are declining to do so. We on the right are just laughing at you lefties and watching the Clinton's obvious venal reactions.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 10:07:06 AM

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I thought it's illegal for foreign people to fund US election candidates? IF Trump was funded by foreigners, he would have been disqualified right?

They didn't fund his campaign.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 4:45:05 PM

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Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

Yet someone much poorer like Kevin Smith is donating all future reoccuring proceeds from Weinstein related productions that he received to women charities.

Always been a fan of Kevin Smith movies! Go Silent Bob!

I think it's just a good gesture to say that he stands behind the women who were hurt by Weinstein.

Clinton could at least use the money, to perhaps provide free litigation services to women who were raped or sexually assaulted by rich powerful people.

Clinton spent $1.2 Billion on the 2016 election. I think it's safe to say that Harvey's money is gone.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 4:46:21 PM

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FFS who cares if she returns the money or not?
It's money.

Weinstein didn't get the money because he raped people, he got it because he is a producer.
If my boss was convicted of rape, I know I wouldn't give my salary back.

Oh idiot Google boy. It's not people on the right saying give the money back. It's the more moral than thou on the left giving it back to show purity and the Clinton's are declining to do so. We on the right are just laughing at you lefties and watching the Clinton's obvious venal reactions.

Who are these people?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 6:47:40 PM

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They didn't fund his campaign.

So then what did Russians give him money for again?
If it wasn't for his Presidential campaign?

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 6:49:24 PM

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Clinton spent $1.2 Billion on the 2016 election. I think it's safe to say that Harvey's money is gone.

Such a waste of 1.2billion dollars.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 8:19:24 PM

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The Clintons already run a charity that 'increases opportunities for women and girls' around the world, btw.

So she should expand her work to help women from the Clinton foundation to help sexual assault victims intimated by the rich. I feel like it's very politically correct to do something harmless by only helping women overseas. Stay out of helping women in America, incase she steps on donors toes.

Actually, Hillary would not be helping sexual assault victims intimidated by the rich as she would be working against herself and all the blackballing and character assassination she did on Bill's Bimbos.

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I also think it's kinda funny that people are upset about this while Trump accepted money from the fucking Russian mafia, who aren't exactly known for being morally upstanding people.

I thought it's illegal for foreign people to fund US election candidates? IF Trump was funded by foreigners, he would have been disqualified right?

It isn't illegal for foreigners to donate to a campaign if it is done correctly. i.e. donations from an international corporation or a NGO charity.

In realpolitik, if you do business in Russia you do business with the Bratva. Even if it is just "leave my construction site alone" bribes often disguised as "accident insurance" on the ledger sheet. The Bratva purchasing goods or services for resale at a monstrous mark up is not unknown.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 8:34:16 PM

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Clinton spent $1.2 Billion on the 2016 election. I think it's safe to say that Harvey's money is gone.

Such a waste of 1.2billion dollars.

And we do it every 4 years. With more money being spent on smaller elections across the nation every year.

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RE: Where Have All the SJWs Gone? - 10/18/2017 8:35:45 PM

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They didn't fund his campaign.

So then what did Russians give him money for again?
If it wasn't for his Presidential campaign?

Who said the Russian investigation had anything to do with money? Or directly with money given to Trump?

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