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ORIGINAL: Drakvampire

You are a bit chatty tonight - my last night, I am not coming here again. Perhaps I could interest you in the “Dalek Cunt” or the “sink plunger”?



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Promises, promises, promises

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As always, To EACH their Own.
"And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. "
Nelson Mandela
Life-long Democrat, not happy at all with Democratic Party.
NOT a Republican/Moderate and free agent

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: ThatDizzyChick

Really seriously fucking stupid question.

yes, it is.

Actually, it's not. If it were such a stupid question, we wouldn't read page after page, week after week about consent violations orchestrated by kinky people. Not those 'nilla f^ckers that we try to act smug because we are 'oh so much more enlightened' than. When they do it, we call it rape or the nicer term of sexual assault. We dress it down and call them consent violations.

PFFFFTTTTT.

Heck, we have to create cartoons like "Consent is like a cup of tea" just for grown adults to be able to understand the concept. We're still trying to get it through people's heads that NO really does mean no, and yes, date rape is still a sexual assault.

Until we can, it is NOT a stupid question and we should continue discussing it.

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ORIGINAL: NoirMetal

we really need to talk about brats abusing tops too.

You have no idea how traumatic it can be to find your favorite flogger smeared with grape jelly.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I said yes it is, because the poll has 16 votes...It originated from another thread, Given the "sexual harassment, rapes and assaults" in the news about Weinstein, etc I was called an puritan angelic nun for saying consent makes a difference. even amongst "kinky people". I didnt deny abuse happens, despite RAC and SSC or CNC. Yes I know the law doesnt look at it that way, BUT consent between couples matters.
Im just disheartened by the result, altho, the scores dont count for anything, thats my problem.

Im more than happy to keep discussing it, but Im sick of wilful ignorance..
Im really glad the people who voted , voted.

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I happen to think sexual addiction is a real thing, for a very, VERY small part of the population. The majority of us, however, still know the difference between right and wrong. This was a guy who made CHOICES.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This poll comes out of this thread/post.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5081310

Is Consent, whether given once,(as in CNC) or otherwise, part of your "lifestyle activities"?

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This poll comes out of this thread/post.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5081310

Is Consent, whether given once,(as in CNC) or otherwise, part of your "lifestyle activities"?

Another question could be:

Is it OKAY/Morally acceptable for consent to be withdrawn if the parties involved AGREE to withdraw consent and move forward with a non-consensual relationship.
As in a - Real slavery/non consensual relationship

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This poll comes out of this thread/post.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5081310

Is Consent, whether given once,(as in CNC) or otherwise, part of your "lifestyle activities"?

Another question could be:

Is it OKAY/Morally acceptable for consent to be withdrawn if the parties involved AGREE to withdraw consent and move forward with a non-consensual relationship.
As in a - Real slavery/non consensual relationship

The main factor deciding that one is whether you're the person trying to withdraw consent (in which case of course it's OKAY/morally acceptable) or the person who's bossing the consensually non-consensual relationship (in which case it isn't). As soon as that becomes an issue, any relationship of that sort is probably finished.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This poll comes out of this thread/post.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5081310

Is Consent, whether given once,(as in CNC) or otherwise, part of your "lifestyle activities"?

Another question could be:

Is it OKAY/Morally acceptable for consent to be withdrawn if the parties involved AGREE to withdraw consent and move forward with a non-consensual relationship.
As in a - Real slavery/non consensual relationship

The main factor deciding that one is whether you're the person trying to withdraw consent (in which case of course it's OKAY/morally acceptable) or the person who's bossing the consensually non-consensual relationship (in which case it isn't). As soon as that becomes an issue, any relationship of that sort is probably finished.

I should have stated a relationship, when the submissive WANTS a non-consensual relationship.
I meant the submissive desires a non-consensual relationship.

I can't wrap my head around a Dominant making the decision.

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
I said yes it is, because the poll has 16 votes...It originated from another thread, Given the "sexual harassment, rapes and assaults" in the news about Weinstein, etc I was called an puritan angelic nun for saying consent makes a difference. even amongst "kinky people". I didnt deny abuse happens, despite RAC and SSC or CNC. Yes I know the law doesnt look at it that way, BUT consent between couples matters.
Im just disheartened by the result, altho, the scores dont count for anything, thats my problem.

Im more than happy to keep discussing it, but Im sick of wilful ignorance..
Im really glad the people who voted , voted.

As unfortunate as it sounds, I didn't vote in the poll. I'd have been more likely to do so if there would have been a 'supposed to be' option.

As you know, I'm a rather opinionated gal. I was shocked as heck when I walked into my place of employment yesterday and one of my co-workers asked me what I thought of the whole Weinstein mess. (I'm not exactly a shrinking violet.) I have a good working relationship with the guy. He knows that if he asks me that kind of thing, he might as well get a cup of coffee and a chair until I'm done.

I happen to think sexual addiction is a real thing, for a very, VERY small part of the population. The majority of us, however, still know the difference between right and wrong. This was a guy who made CHOICES.

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ORIGINAL: Marini

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

This poll comes out of this thread/post.
http://www.collarchat.com/fb.asp?m=5081310

Is Consent, whether given once,(as in CNC) or otherwise, part of your "lifestyle activities"?

Another question could be:

Is it OKAY/Morally acceptable for consent to be withdrawn, if the parties involved AGREE to withdraw consent and move forward with a non-consensual relationship.
As in a - Real slavery/non consensual relationship


There are those that state they desire a non-consensual relationship, I might consider getting that arrangement in writing, for what it is worth.

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

THis is not a BDSM matter or a consent matter — it’s an abuse of power and position.

Even with consent (and it wasn’t).

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

THis is not a BDSM matter or a consent matter — it’s an abuse of power and position.

Even with consent (and it wasn’t).

The question came from the topic about hillary and weinstein, and how consent was not taken as "normal" on a kinky site.

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
added to the poll options:)
Its opening up dialogue, yes, which is good, even if like you and me, we get quite passionate about it. Its been ignored for years in every part of society.
I do think that there is a very small number of "real sex" addicts, but a large number of manipulative opportunists use it as an excuse to abuse.He made his choices, he denied others their own choice.

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ORIGINAL: JVoV
How do you feel about duct tape?

Now you're just trying to turn people on.

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ORIGINAL: Marini
Another question could be:

Is it OKAY/Morally acceptable for consent to be withdrawn, if the parties involved AGREE to withdraw consent and move forward with a non-consensual relationship.
As in a - Real slavery/non consensual relationship


There are those that state they desire a non-consensual relationship, I might consider getting that arrangement in writing, for what it is worth.