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Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault allegations - 10/16/2017 12:38:34 AM   
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Lawyers for one of the women who have accused Donald Trump of sexual assault subpoenaed his campaign for all documents relating to her, all communications with or about her and "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately."

This comes in the case of Summer Zervos, a former contestant on "The Apprentice" who accused Trump of sexually assaulting her in 2007. The accusations were made in October of last year at a news conference.
Zervos claims Trump kissed her twice on the lips during a lunch meeting in his New York City office and on a separate occasion in Beverly Hills, she alleges he kissed her aggressively and touched her breast.
In a statement at the time, Trump denied these claims.
"To be clear, I never met her at a hotel or greeted her inappropriately a decade ago. That is not who I am as a person, and it is not how I've conducted my life. In fact, Ms. Zervos continued to contact me for help, emailing my office on April 14 of this year asking that I visit her restaurant in California," Trump said.
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Trump also dismissed Zervos' and another woman's accusations at a rally, calling them "total fiction," "all false stuff" and said that there is a "concerted effort" to take down his campaign.
The subpoena, issued in March, is just coming to light now and is part of a defamation lawsuit filed by Zervos in January in the New York State Supreme Court against Trump following his denials.
Buzzfeed News first reported the existence of the subpoena.
The subpoena was served to the campaign, but Zervos' lawyers and the campaign agreed to suspend the response date until after a motion to dismiss the lawsuit is decided, Mariann Wang, one of her attorneys, told CNN. She said campaign officials gave assurances that the documents be preserved which they did.
Information about the subpoena was entered into the court record as part of a filing in which Zervos' attorneys argued against dismissal of the suit.
Attorneys for Trump said the suit "... has no legal merit," that these were "fame-seeking accusations" and argued the lawsuit should be dismissed. In a motion, his lawyers said because this is a state lawsuit it cannot proceed against a sitting president.
"Ms. Zervos does not and cannot state a cause of action for defamation under California law, which applies here because Ms. Zervos is domiciled and was purportedly injured there. The allegedly defamatory statements were made during a national political campaign that involved heated political debate in political forums. Statements made in that context are properly viewed by courts a part of the expected fiery rhetoric, hyperbole and opinion that is squarely protected by the First Amendment," his lawyers argued in a court motion.

His lawyers also said if the case isn't dropped at least it should be stayed until he leaves office.

Also representing Zervos is Gloria Allred, who has represented many women in sexual harassment cases, and appeared with Zervos at her original news conference in October.
Trump's attorneys, who referenced her as part of the filing, have said the subpoena is overly broad. "Ms. Allred has served a far-reaching subpoena on the Trump campaign that seeks wholly irrelevant information intended solely to harass the President. Indeed, Ms. Allred herself has questioned how the President could run the country if faced with broad discovery."

While Trump's attorneys have said Zervos' allegations are politically motivated, her lawyers disagreed.

"Contrary to Defendants' spin, this case is not about robust political debate. Ms. Zervos was not a political opponent, nor was she a political commentator routinely engaged in criticizing candidates," Zervos' attorneys countered in a court filing last month. "She came forward to report the details of Defendants' unwanted sexual battery only after he repeatedly lied publicly about his behavior. Defendant then used his international bully pulpit to violate her for a second time."
Trump's attorneys face an October 31 deadline to further respond in support of the request for the case to be dismissed
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Trump's attorney did not respond to a request for comment. The White House referred comment to the campaign, and a representative did not return a request for comment.



http://www.cnn.com/2017/10/15/politics/trump-campaign-subpoena-sexual-assault-allegations/index.html





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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 12:44:35 AM   
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Trump has denied the allegations, saying that he has been the victim of media bias, conspiracies, and a political smear campaign.[6][7][8][9] In October 2016, Trump publicly vowed to sue all of the women who have made allegations of sexual assault or sexual harassment against him, as well as to sue the New York Times for publishing allegations,[10][11] but never followed through.[12][13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations


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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 12:45:05 AM   
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Well end of the day, this is HE says, SHE says.

The verdict is yet to be out.

And he have not paid her off.

A subpoena is a document that requires its recipient to appear in court as a witness. If you receive a subpoena, it doesn't mean you've done anything wrong; it just means you may have information that's needed by the court

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/subpoena

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 12:59:14 AM   
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LMFAO you are such a hypocrite...most sexual assaults...are a he said she said, unless there are marks, video, audio, witnesses...even weinsteins allegations, are not proven in a court of law yet. I have no doubt they will be, however. Because of his history.




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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 1:00:38 AM   
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quote:

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Well end of the day, this is HE says, SHE says.

The verdict is yet to be out.

And he have not paid her off.

A subpoena is a document that requires its recipient to appear in court as a witness. If you receive a subpoena, it doesn't mean you've done anything wrong; it just means you may have information that's needed by the court

https://www.vocabulary.com/dictionary/subpoena

except the subpoena is for any documents mentioning the sexual assault allegations.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 1:58:35 AM   
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quote:

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LMFAO you are such a hypocrite...most sexual assaults...are a he said she said, unless there are marks, video, audio, witnesses...even weinsteins allegations, are not proven in a court of law yet. I have no doubt they will be, however. Because of his history.

Totally Not. Weinstein paid 8 women off. The overwhelming testimony from reliable people are increasing. Including from men who knew him! I mean Brad Pitt threatened him in the past for harassing Gwyneth. And Weinstein himself admitted to behaving inappropriately, all he is denying right now is rape, but he has admitted to all the sexual harrassment act he did.

As I said, with Trump, if anything was true, there is 10million dollars reward to collect. Someone should be getting him soon. But the way I see it, it's all nonsense.

Because IF he has been sexually harassing women in his Apprentice program. I think it would be like Harvey. Many of those reality star women would all start coming out with stories.

It's like Roger Ailes and Fox News Ladies too.




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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 2:03:42 AM   
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except the subpoena is for any documents mentioning the sexual assault allegations.

Still doesn't prove of guilt yet.
And here is the other strange thing. Why would Trump campaign have any documents of Trump sexual assault allegations? I find it weird that the accusers are expecting Trump Campaign to be the one WITH information on all his sexual assault allegations?

It's like, "I accuse Trump of sexual assault, but the burden of proof is on Trump to produce evidence that he has committed those assaults."

That is so fucking weird!

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 2:09:52 AM   
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[10][11] but never followed through.[12][13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations

No need to. No need to pay them off. No need to spend money to sue them since the allegations have not hurt his presidency. He still became President. Just like, he didn't want to pursue Hillary either.
And the fact that non of those allegations hurt him is because, it's not proven.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 2:14:59 AM   
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quote:

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except the subpoena is for any documents mentioning the sexual assault allegations.

Still doesn't prove of guilt yet.
And here is the other strange thing. Why would Trump campaign have any documents of Trump sexual assault allegations? I find it weird that the accusers are expecting Trump Campaign to be the one WITH information on all his sexual assault allegations?

It's like, "I accuse Trump of sexual assault, but the burden of proof is on Trump to produce evidence that he has committed those assaults."

That is so fucking weird!

you are fucking weird. I didnt claim that it proved anything, you are reaching and quite desperate.
Campaign lawyers will have the paperwork. for the work they have done with summer zervos or Jill harth?
what about the lawyers who claimed the woman who claimed he assaulted her when she was 13?
they have been in court over that.
all the lawyers will have documents regarding the charges made, the allegations made. the investigational material,etc

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 2:45:57 AM   
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you are fucking weird. I didnt claim that it proved anything, you are reaching and quite desperate.
Campaign lawyers will have the paperwork. for the work they have done with summer zervos or Jill harth?
what about the lawyers who claimed the woman who claimed he assaulted her when she was 13?
they have been in court over that.
all the lawyers will have documents regarding the charges made, the allegations made. the investigational material,etc

You know, if a 13 yr old got genuinely assaulted, it's serious shit. They wouldn't drop it.
Again, as I said, if the woman who got assaulted NEED Trump's campaign to be the ones producing evidence of her assault. Something is wrong right?

Why would Trump Campaign hold documented evidence of him assaulting her? That is weird!

Any documents they have would simply be from the woman's lawyer accusing Trump of all the things they accuse him of.

I will be looking forward for this case to get somewhere, because since Trump claims he has evidence of her still asking him for favours AFTER this alleged assault she felt so outrage about.

If Trump is guilty, I expect him to be prosecuted. But as of now, I have huge doubts about it, because the timing is seriously suspicious.

All these came like 3 months before voting day or something. He was campaigning for 2 whole years, and nobody bothered.

What was the intention?

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 2:57:40 AM   
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yes because ALL women are listened to, and believed...they NEVER fail to report an assault, and they Never fail to follow through with the police or lawyers.
Trump has said he will sue them. Why hasnt he?
grow up.
PS your ignorance of what his lawyers have taken part in, is not surprising.
They have client attorney privilege, BUT that doesnt mean they dont have information of the allegations made against him.
they certainly do have paperwork in the case of summer zervos...
Trump's lawyers have argued the subpoena is too broad, and requested any hearing is delayed until he has left the White House, according to Buzzfeed.


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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 3:06:51 AM   
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except the subpoena is for any documents mentioning the sexual assault allegations
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    relating to her, all communications with or about her and "all documents concerning any woman who asserted that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately."

Still doesn't prove of guilt yet.
And here is the other strange thing. Why would Trump campaign have any documents of Trump sexual assault allegations? I find it weird that the accusers are expecting Trump Campaign to be the one WITH information on all his sexual assault allegations?
It's like, "I accuse Trump of sexual assault, but the burden of proof is on Trump to produce evidence that he has committed those assaults."
That is so fucking weird!


Fixed Lucy's comment about the subpoena (quoted the article).

You are correct that a subpoena for documents doesn't prove guilt, but the point of the subpoena is to get the documents which could prove guilt. The subpoena is for any documents that mention her, include her, or are about her. Considering her accusation occurred during the campaign, it's pretty much guaranteed that there will be documentation to submit according to the subpoena.


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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 3:11:28 AM   
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Trump has said he will sue them. Why hasnt he?

Are you saying that if Trump bothered to sue? You will believe he is innocent?

Because I believe if he had carried out his suing when he is President of United States, they would accuse Trump of being a bully and trying to oppress this girl with his wealth and power.

Also, when the country face so much problems, he is wasting time on these law suits.

It makes more sense for him to leave it alone and focus on the country. He should only act, IF any of these allegations really start genuinely threatening him.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 3:25:27 AM   
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Trump has said he will sue them. Why hasnt he?

Are you saying that if Trump bothered to sue? You will believe he is innocent?

Because I believe if he had carried out his suing when he is President of United States, they would accuse Trump of being a bully and trying to oppress this girl with his wealth and power.

Also, when the country face so much problems, he is wasting time on these law suits.

It makes more sense for him to leave it alone and focus on the country. He should only act, IF any of these allegations really start genuinely threatening him.

no im not saying that, lol, but nice try.
trump is a bully, he has proven that since he took office....


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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 3:45:46 AM   
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no im not saying that, lol, but nice try.
trump is a bully, he has proven that since he took office....

Ya so either way he is a bully in your eyes. So no point of you using the "he didn't sue" part to mean anything right?

To me, the fact that he did nothing shows me he is not a bully. But also, I know if push came to shove, if he really has to defend his honour to keep his Presidential status, I won't discount that he will sue if he is fighting for his life.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 3:55:16 AM   
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omg the drama...
we obviously dont have the same definition of a bully.
But Im not just talking about the allegations.
now im done with you because you have your head so far up his arse you are covered in orange tang.
To you, he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and you would claim it was a lefty conspiracy.





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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 4:06:04 AM   
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He doesn't come across as a sexual predator to me. Likes to brag alot of shit, like alot of men do. But I believe he is more talk than action, when it comes to women and sex. And he gets rejected alot.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 7:18:02 AM   
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no im not saying that, lol, but nice try.
trump is a bully, he has proven that since he took office....

Ya so either way he is a bully in your eyes. So no point of you using the "he didn't sue" part to mean anything right?

To me, the fact that he did nothing shows me he is not a bully. But also, I know if push came to shove, if he really has to defend his honour to keep his Presidential status, I won't discount that he will sue if he is fighting for his life.

The fact that he didn't sue doesn't even suggest to you that el presidente is keen to keep this from being investigated in a court of law, then?
Because that's the first thing that tends to spring to mind when a litigation-happy "businessman" who finds it cheaper to drag builders he owes money through court rather than paying them for the work they've done chooses to pay off somebody who's making allegations about him...

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 7:27:31 AM   
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except the subpoena is for any documents mentioning the sexual assault allegations.

Still doesn't prove of guilt yet.
And here is the other strange thing. Why would Trump campaign have any documents of Trump sexual assault allegations? I find it weird that the accusers are expecting Trump Campaign to be the one WITH information on all his sexual assault allegations?

It's like, "I accuse Trump of sexual assault, but the burden of proof is on Trump to produce evidence that he has committed those assaults."

That is so fucking weird!



It's true! And that attorney, she chases basket cases. High profile victim women's cases. When she shows up it's always showtime.

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RE: Trump campaign subpoenaed over sexual assault alleg... - 10/16/2017 7:31:21 AM   
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so that makes the women liars?????
thanks for playing.

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