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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 4:54:31 PM   
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Of course, since Kelley's son was married, the wife would have gotten the call, since she is next of kin.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 4:56:12 PM   
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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/17/trump-obama-military-calls-john-kelly-son-243863
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/17/trump-invokes-death-john-kellys-son-calls-fallen-soldiers-controversy/772783001/
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-call-john-kelly-marine-son-died-action/story?id=50533292

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That's what you call President Trump politicizing it?

You are an idiot.

Defending himself vs. you howlers isn't politicizing anything, it is legitimate discussion

Again:

Kelly defends Trump’s call to Gold Star widow

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly on Thursday gave a powerful defense of President Trump’s handling of a call to a Gold Star widow of a soldier who was killed in Niger — and ripped a Florida lawmaker for politicizing the issue.

“There’s no perfect way to make that phone call,” he said in his first public comments on the controversy over the call, which slain Sgt. La David Johnson’s mother Cowanda Jones-Johnson and a Florida lawmaker who knew him called disrespectful.

“If you’ve never worn the uniform, if you’ve never been in combat, you can’t even imagine how to make that call but I think he very bravely does make those calls.”

Kelly, who lost his marine lieutenant son in Afghanistan, said he advised Trump not to make the calls because it was so difficult to deliver such a tragic message.

But the president, he said, insisted that he thought it was the right thing to do.

”He said to me, ‘What do I say?’ ‘I said to him, ‘Sir, there’s nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families,” he said.

He then said a military friend had told him how he handled the calls, and he shared the advice with the president.

The friend, he said, would tell loved ones that the deceased “was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were.”

That phrasing is similar to what Johnson’s family said Trump told them, that the sergeant “knew what he signed up for.”

Kelly also blasted Democratic Rep. Frederica S. Wilson for listening in and politicizing the call that Trump had made.

“It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me,” he said, adding that the death of someone serving their country in the military was sacred.

“I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die in the battlefield, I thought that might be sacred. And when I listened to this woman and what she was saying and what she was doing on TV, the only thing I could do to collect my thoughts was to go and walk among the finest men and women on this earth,” he said.

The lawmaker had gone on television Wednesday morning to attack the president, and engaged in a twitter war with the commander in chief as well.

“And you can always find them. Because they’re in Arlington National Cemetery. Went over there for an hour and a half, walked among the stones some of whom I put there because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed,” Kelly said.

The marine general also said he was not criticizing ex-President Obama when he told trump that Obama had not for called him after his son Robert Kelly was killed by an Afghan police officer in an ambush.

Kelly also described how families are notified when a service member is killed, saying an officer is dispatched to the family’s home early in the morning, waits for the first light to come on and then knocks on the door to deliver the devastating news.

He also described how he and his wife learned of their own son’s death.

“When my son was killed his friends were calling us from Afghanistan, telling us what a great guy he was,” Kelly said in a steady, subdued voice.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/19/kelly-defends-trumps-call-to-gold-star-widow/

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 5:12:29 PM   
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It was said to try to cover his own ass, during a news conference. So yeah, that's what I'd call politicizing it.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 5:37:52 PM   
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It was said to try to cover his own ass, during a news conference. So yeah, that's what I'd call politicizing it.


Like I posted above, something said in his own defense

Twist reality much

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 5:46:46 PM   
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In his defense, after he was caught in a lie, trying to blame Obama.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:14:52 PM   
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Tump did it to himself instead of mentioning the four that died in niger, he tried to distract to obama and bush
Kelly wasnt mentioned till the day after.
Trump needs a dose of his own shit, and kelly is yes, trying to save his job. Someone has to be a "responsible" for the country.

Its a shame he has a sociopath for a boss
They all kiss his ass in public, its not fooling anyone but the trumpers.



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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:20:06 PM   
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Tump did it to himself instead of mentioning the four that died in niger, he tried to distract to obama and bush
Kelly wasnt mentioned till the day after.
Trump needs a dose of his own shit, and kelly is yes, trying to save his job. Someone has to be a "responsible" for the country.

Its a shame he has a sociopath for a boss
They all kiss his ass in public, its not fooling anyone but the trumpers.





Funny how scream that the president is a sociopath, while imagining in your make-believe world version of reality that you speak howl for everyone

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:23:03 PM   
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Well it was certain that you wouldnt get it....i did say it....so thank you

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:33:03 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LTE


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and what did trump say about the four soldiers killed in niger?
nothing, except to complain how hard it was for him to write letters, poor baby.
Oh there was a LONG investigation into benghazi. Obama discussed it the following day. Its been 12 days, and he is still blaming obama.
he has been curiously silent on the deaths that have happened under his watch....
the MOAB in syria did fuck all except pothole a runway.
hes too busy tweeting about the mayor in san juan, the NFL, corker, tillerson, he said iran, playing footsie with NK and being a schmuck.



How about now? Kelly is pissed but not at Trump. Kelly is pissed at the Media and the politicians who are using this in an attempt to destroy America.


Well, sorta. Actually not.

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/17/trump-obama-military-calls-john-kelly-son-243863

He uses Kellys sons death to back up his claims...
Kelly has been silent
WHen Kelly himself says it I will believe it.
Until then, its trump using an gold star family to back his shameful criticism, and not talk about the four dead in niger.

And Lying out of his ARSE again.



How about now?

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:44:03 PM   
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What about now?

Please see previous comment about trumpers ,
Kelly is spouting his masters voice, hoping at least trumpers will buy it.


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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 6:53:24 PM   
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What about now?

Please see previous comment about trumpers ,
Kelly is spouting his masters voice, hoping at least trumpers will buy it.



I love women. First you complain that Kelly is not speaking himself and now that he does you discredit him for doing so. I enjoy exploring a woman's mind so very much.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 7:36:08 PM   
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Doesn't it worry you that he is constantly saying things that are wrong then goes on a rampage when he is corrected?

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 9:20:15 PM   
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Fucking Hell, you people sure do get your panties in a bunch over some stupid petty shit. Who gives a fuck if he calls or sends a letter, it doesn't fucking matter.

And before somebody tries to claim it is at all important because Trump lied, fuck that, that dumb cunt lies all the fucking time. The news would be when he says something true for a change.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 10:23:46 PM   
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FR

Kelly defends Trump’s call to Gold Star widow

White House Chief of Staff John Kelly on Thursday gave a powerful defense of President Trump’s handling of a call to a Gold Star widow of a soldier who was killed in Niger — and ripped a Florida lawmaker for politicizing the issue.

“There’s no perfect way to make that phone call,” he said in his first public comments on the controversy over the call, which slain Sgt. La David Johnson’s mother Cowanda Jones-Johnson and a Florida lawmaker who knew him called disrespectful.

“If you’ve never worn the uniform, if you’ve never been in combat, you can’t even imagine how to make that call but I think he very bravely does make those calls.”

Kelly, who lost his marine lieutenant son in Afghanistan, said he advised Trump not to make the calls because it was so difficult to deliver such a tragic message.

But the president, he said, insisted that he thought it was the right thing to do.

”He said to me, ‘What do I say?’ ‘I said to him, ‘Sir, there’s nothing you can do to lighten the burden on these families,” he said.

He then said a military friend had told him how he handled the calls, and he shared the advice with the president.

The friend, he said, would tell loved ones that the deceased “was doing exactly what he wanted to do when he was killed. He knew what he was getting into by joining that 1 percent. He knew what the possibilities were.”

That phrasing is similar to what Johnson’s family said Trump told them, that the sergeant “knew what he signed up for.”

Kelly also blasted Democratic Rep. Frederica S. Wilson for listening in and politicizing the call that Trump had made.

“It stuns me that a member of Congress would have listened in on that conversation. Absolutely stuns me,” he said, adding that the death of someone serving their country in the military was sacred.

“I just thought the selfless devotion that brings a man or woman to die in the battlefield, I thought that might be sacred. And when I listened to this woman and what she was saying and what she was doing on TV, the only thing I could do to collect my thoughts was to go and walk among the finest men and women on this earth,” he said.

The lawmaker had gone on television Wednesday morning to attack the president, and engaged in a twitter war with the commander in chief as well.

“And you can always find them. Because they’re in Arlington National Cemetery. Went over there for an hour and a half, walked among the stones some of whom I put there because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed,” Kelly said.

The marine general also said he was not criticizing ex-President Obama when he told trump that Obama had not for called him after his son Robert Kelly was killed by an Afghan police officer in an ambush.

Kelly also described how families are notified when a service member is killed, saying an officer is dispatched to the family’s home early in the morning, waits for the first light to come on and then knocks on the door to deliver the devastating news.

He also described how he and his wife learned of their own son’s death.

“When my son was killed his friends were calling us from Afghanistan, telling us what a great guy he was,” Kelly said in a steady, subdued voice.

http://nypost.com/2017/10/19/kelly-defends-trumps-call-to-gold-star-widow/


I don't get how the democratic Rep (Wilson) was able to "listen in" on that conversation. Do you? Was she standing there when Trump was on the phone?

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 10:34:44 PM   
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It's a new fangled technological miracle known as the speakerphone, perhaps? Trump cant take a dump without at least 20 folks knowing the deets (size, color, gastric content, etc) of his deuce, so folks hearing his phone call isnt a far stretch of the ol' imagination. He's a mix of egomaniac and mental patient, so Id rightly assume the pendulum swings between rational and insane like a fart in the wind in the Oval Office. I dont think coconut phones on Gilligan's Island came equipped with that option, but most modern technology includes it. The White House is even better equipped than my ass backwards Samsung S6 loving self, but even my cell has speaker

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 10:38:29 PM   
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Wilson had said that the Johnson family was “astonished” by Trump’s remarks during the call, which Wilson said she heard via a speakerphone while riding in a limousine with the Johnson family. “She was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.” Wilson told MSNBC on Wednesday that Johnson’s widow was shaken by the exchange.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 11:30:16 PM   
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Obama and Hillary were both at the base when the bodies of the 4 killed in Benghazi arrived.



And both did nothing that would have prevented the incident in the first damn place.

And just exactly what were they supposed to do ?

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/19/2017 11:32:15 PM   
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Wilson had said that the Johnson family was “astonished” by Trump’s remarks during the call, which Wilson said she heard via a speakerphone while riding in a limousine with the Johnson family. “She was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.” Wilson told MSNBC on Wednesday that Johnson’s widow was shaken by the exchange.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/


Ok thanks. The whole scenario seems contrived.

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/20/2017 5:19:26 AM   
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quote:

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Wilson had said that the Johnson family was “astonished” by Trump’s remarks during the call, which Wilson said she heard via a speakerphone while riding in a limousine with the Johnson family. “She was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.” Wilson told MSNBC on Wednesday that Johnson’s widow was shaken by the exchange.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/post-politics/wp/2017/10/18/totally-fabricated-trump-disputes-congresswomans-depiction-of-his-exchange-with-soldiers-widow/


Ok thanks. The whole scenario seems contrived.



Then you have the leftists' puppeteer, billionaire Bezos, pulling their strings with his Amazon Post propaganda...

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RE: ‘Disrespectful lie’: Anger grows over Trump’s... - 10/20/2017 5:21:53 AM   
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Obama and Hillary were both at the base when the bodies of the 4 killed in Benghazi arrived.



And both did nothing that would have prevented the incident in the first damn place.

And just exactly what were they supposed to do ?


Send help when they were under attack, and they asked for it. Pull all Americans out before the attack just like everybody else, because it was so dangerous there. Provide the additional security that was requested many times over.

Not lie to America and the families about what happened...

Compared to all of that, leftist trash attacking this president for genuinely trying to comfort a grieving family does seem contrived

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