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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:46:39 PM   
JVoV


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Status: offline 		Butt smacking is definitely a cultural issue. Guys do it to each other.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:48:18 PM   
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Butt smacking is definitely a cultural issue. Guys do it to each other.


Dude, you are gay!

Straight male do not smack each other's butt.

And seriously over here, if a male smack another man's butt.

That man can report him for molestation too IF he wanted to.

I just saw your article that it is done in sports. The difference is, sports people are alot more intimate with each other than most regular men.

I saw a segment on James Corden where his parents went into a American Foot Ball Changing room, and all the men were just walking around naked with each other. James Corden mom basically got to see cocks.


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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:49:42 PM   
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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:52:04 PM   
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I ask this because, the audio of Weinstein assaulting a woman has been going around. And he admits on the audio to touching her breast without her permission and basically telling her, he doesn't care that she doesn't want it.

YET, the court took Weinstein side over the girl? And he got away.

How is this possible?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCwGfmVzzwU





She should have slapped him and walked away, perhaps called her Dom. When did women decide instead to go to court on this, perhaps she wanted some money. My guess is yes and the judge sensed it.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:52:28 PM   
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Yeah, there's like a whole link there, to click on, and read stuff,so you're not so fucking ignorant about American culture.


Are all the American Straight Males here gonna claim that men slapping men's butt is now officially an American culture?

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:52:42 PM   
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To provide you with a little bit of useful information, some say that there is science behind butt slapping. It is said that it has similarities with horseracing, where jockeys whip their horses to encourage them to go faster. But then again, some studies claim that whipping horses does not increase their chances of finishing first, second or whatever. But there’s still a useful tip we can get from horseracing. There is actually a limit to the number of times a jockey can whip a horse. The same goes with butt slapping.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:54:14 PM   
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She should have slapped him and walked away, perhaps called her Dom. When did women decide instead to go to court on this, perhaps she wanted some money. My guess is yes and the judge sensed it.

She is a petite tiny woman and Weinstein is a one hulk of a man.

If she tries to slap him, she might dislocate her wrist. Why should she hurt herself?

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:55:01 PM   
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Yeah, there's like a whole link there, to click on, and read stuff,so you're not so fucking ignorant about American culture.


Are all the American Straight Males here gonna claim that men slapping men's butt is now officially an American culture?


Only if they've ever played a sport, or seen one being played.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:55:30 PM   
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To provide you with a little bit of useful information, some say that there is science behind butt slapping. It is said that it has similarities with horseracing, where jockeys whip their horses to encourage them to go faster. But then again, some studies claim that whipping horses does not increase their chances of finishing first, second or whatever. But there’s still a useful tip we can get from horseracing. There is actually a limit to the number of times a jockey can whip a horse. The same goes with butt slapping.



Absolutely ridiculous to compare human males to humans enslaving horses for their sport.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 8:57:30 PM   
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Only if they've ever played a sport, or seen one being played.

Well we are talking about work-place behaviour now.

In a corporate office setting.

Not out in a field like maybe rugby where men gotta touch and wrestle each other on a daily basis.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:05:36 PM   
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That man can report him for molestation too IF he wanted to.


Context is everything. Men usually will deal with this in another manner.

I personally have been sexually assaulted by a female Director of HR who decided to wear a large billowy dress without panties while I was presenting a new product to her. I thought she was crazy. I still do. I finished and left. She told my boss I was to be commended for being so professional. Another female supervisor put her hand on my leg and rested it there for about ten seconds and I acted like my cock was not getting hard. The third time a female peer walked up behind me and softly placed her left check against my right. I ignored her and she pulled back after several seconds and we are good terms because I wanted it so. Finally, another very young woman, apparently having heard of my prowess, came over to my office, sat down, crossed her legs in a way so that one leg was completely exposed and whispered that "I knew what to do with a woman". Really finally, another female was leaving my office after a short conference and she posed with a hand against the right and left door frames and softly let me know "she sometimes likes to be used".

I really think they are just being women and I am an alpha so why would I take them to court? I can deal with it in ways I have total control instead. But then, I am not looking for money in court or to keep quiet.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:09:31 PM   
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She should have slapped him and walked away, perhaps called her Dom. When did women decide instead to go to court on this, perhaps she wanted some money. My guess is yes and the judge sensed it.

She is a petite tiny woman and Weinstein is a one hulk of a man.

If she tries to slap him, she might dislocate her wrist. Why should she hurt herself?



I think she can manage. Most slaps like this are not violent, because they are from women and they don't have to be forceful and violent, after all, she is not fighting him off. She is making a point and making it immediately public to all who are around her.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:11:02 PM   
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Only if they've ever played a sport, or seen one being played.

Well we are talking about work-place behaviour now.

In a corporate office setting.

Not out in a field like maybe rugby where men gotta touch and wrestle each other on a daily basis.


No we're not. The recording was made at Weinstein's hotel room, not in a board room, although sexual harassment can and does happen there as well.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:31:40 PM   
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I really think they are just being women and I am an alpha so why would I take them to court? I can deal with it in ways I have total control instead. But then, I am not looking for money in court or to keep quiet.

That's you. But some men should take these women to court IF the advances are unwanted.
Not for money but for justice.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:32:47 PM   
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No we're not. The recording was made at Weinstein's hotel room, not in a board room, although sexual harassment can and does happen there as well.

Many corporate businesses are conducted in hotel rooms too. Have I ever met a client in his hotel room to get him a sign a contract? Plenty of times!

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/18/2017 9:34:09 PM   
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I think she can manage. Most slaps like this are not violent, because they are from women and they don't have to be forceful and violent, after all, she is not fighting him off. She is making a point and making it immediately public to all who are around her.

Yea but if she is tiny and he is big, she might be afraid he could snap her into two with his bare hands, so if she attempt to slap him, he might grab her wrist and twist it.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/19/2017 4:44:19 AM   
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greta, can you give a little more context. did she press charges?


Watch the video, there is even an attorney who prosecute molest and rape cases commenting on how she is shock that with absolutely clear evidence and admission of guilt by weinstein, that the courts let him go.

The girl did everything correctly. Went to the police immediately, gave clear evidence. Despite doing everything as a professional lawyer would advice.

Weinstein got off.


I cant watch video, and you can still answer my question consistent with my subsequent point.

for some things the state will bring charges. for other things, the injured party has to follow all the way through with doing so.

was there a court case or not? jv says no.

if there wasn't, its not a matter of "the courts letting him go" per se, its something else.

there might not have been sufficient evidence for the court to try him, she might have dropped the charges, or something else might have occurred.

you might enjoy reading this:

https://townhall.com/columnists/anncoulter/2017/10/18/weinsteins-pimps-revenge-of-the-ugly-girls-n2397024


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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/19/2017 11:56:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bounty, you aren't missing much. It was a clip from The View.

Since I'm on my phone and can't do a lot of video either, I found this for you.

Newsweek article with full transcript of the actual recording
WEINSTEIN: No, come in here.

GUTIERREZ: No, yesterday was kind of aggressive for me.

WEINSTEIN: I know—

GUTIERREZ: I need to know a person to be touched.

WEINSTEIN: I won’t do a thing.

GUTIERREZ: I don’t want to be touched.

WEINSTEIN: I won’t do a thing, please. I swear I won’t. Just sit with me. Don’t embarrass me in the hotel. I’m here all the time. Sit with me, I promise—

GUTIERREZ: I know, but I don’t want to.

WEINSTEIN: Please sit there. Please. One minute, I ask you.

GUTIERREZ: No, I can’t.

WEINSTEIN: Go to the bathroom.

GUTIERREZ: Please, I don’t want to do something I don’t want to.

WEINSTEIN: Go to the bathroom—Hey, come here. Listen to me—

GUTIERREZ: I want to go downstairs.

WEINSTEIN: I won’t do anything and you’ll never see me again after this. OK? That’s it. If you don’t—if you embarrass me in this hotel where I’m staying—

GUTIERREZ: I’m not embarrassing you—

WEINSTEIN: Just walk—

GUTIERREZ: It’s just that I don’t feel comfortable.

WEINSTEIN: Honey, don’t have a fight with me in the hallway.

GUTIERREZ: It’s not nothing, it’s—

WEINSTEIN: Please. I’m not gonna do anything. I swear on my children. Please come in. On everything. I’m a famous guy.

GUTIERREZ: I’m, I’m feeling very uncomfortable right now.

WEINSTEIN: Please come in. And one minute. And if you wanna leave when the guy comes with my jacket, you can go.

GUTIERREZ: Why yesterday you touch my breast?

WEINSTEIN: Oh, please. I’m sorry. Just come on in. I’m used to that.

GUTIERREZ: You’re used to that?

WEINSTEIN: Yes, come in.

GUTIERREZ: No, but I’m not used to that.

WEINSTEIN: I won’t do it again. Come on, sit here. Sit here for a minute, please?

GUTIERREZ: No, I don’t want to.

WEINSTEIN: If you do this now you will [unintelligible]. Now go. Bye. Never call me again. OK? I’m sorry, nice to have—I promise you I won’t do anything.

GUTIERREZ: I know, but yesterday was too much for me.

WEINSTEIN: The guy is coming. I will never do another thing to you. Five minutes. Don’t ruin your friendship with me for five minutes.

GUTIERREZ: I know—but, it’s kind of, like, it’s too much for me. I can’t.

WEINSTEIN: Please, you’re making a big scene here. Please.

GUTIERREZ: No, but I wanna leave.

WEINSTEIN: OK, bye. Thank you.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/19/2017 1:27:45 PM   
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so what im understanding is---the police and some lawyers think theres enough evidence for charges to be pursued but the case didn't end up in trial.

do we know why? I suspect the most common reason would be the DA doesn't think, given what they have, that a trial would be worth pursuing.

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RE: Is it illegal in the US to touch a woman's breast w... - 10/19/2017 3:13:27 PM   
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That man can report him for molestation too IF he wanted to.


Context is everything. Men usually will deal with this in another manner.

I personally have been sexually assaulted by a female Director of HR who decided to wear a large billowy dress without panties while I was presenting a new product to her. I thought she was crazy. I still do. I finished and left. She told my boss I was to be commended for being so professional. Another female supervisor put her hand on my leg and rested it there for about ten seconds and I acted like my cock was not getting hard. The third time a female peer walked up behind me and softly placed her left check against my right. I ignored her and she pulled back after several seconds and we are good terms because I wanted it so. Finally, another very young woman, apparently having heard of my prowess, came over to my office, sat down, crossed her legs in a way so that one leg was completely exposed and whispered that "I knew what to do with a woman". Really finally, another female was leaving my office after a short conference and she posed with a hand against the right and left door frames and softly let me know "she sometimes likes to be used".

I really think they are just being women and I am an alpha so why would I take them to court? I can deal with it in ways I have total control instead. But then, I am not looking for money in court or to keep quiet.


It amazes me how you can get through life without your bollocks exploding from such alpha-ness, Art, it really does.


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