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BoscoX -> Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 4:51:58 PM)


He's a political hack. Comey's butt buddy, interested only in revenge and politicizing his duties

Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice

Much has been written about the prosecutorial prowess of Robert Mueller’s team assembled to investigate allegations of Russia’s involvement in the Trump campaign. Little has been said of the danger of prosecutorial overreach and the true history of Mueller’s lead prosecutor.

What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president. The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.

Many Americans despise President Trump and anyone associated with him. Yet turning our system of justice into a political weapon is a danger we must guard against.


Think back to April 1, 1940, and a world awash in turmoil, hate and fear. Revered Attorney General Robert H. Jackson assembled the United States attorneys. In remarks enshrined in the hearts of all good prosecutors, he said, “the citizen's safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches his task with humility.”


Yet Mueller tapped a different sort of prosecutor to lead his investigation — his long-time friend and former counsel, Andrew Weissmann. He is not just a “tough” prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most touted “victories” for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law.

Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Next, Weissmann creatively criminalized a business transaction between Merrill Lynch and Enron. Four Merrill executives went to prison for as long as a year. Weissmann’s team made sure they did not even get bail pending their appeals, even though the charges Weissmann concocted, like those against Andersen, were literally unprecedented.

Weissmann’s prosecution devastated the lives and families of the Merrill executives, causing enormous defense costs, unimaginable stress and torturous prison time. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the mass of the case.

Weissmann quietly resigned from the Enron Task Force just as the judge in the Enron Broadband prosecution began excoriating Weissmann’s team, and the press began catching on to Weissmann’s modus operandi.

Mueller knows this history. Is this why he tapped Weissmann to target Paul Manafort?

As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.”

Manafort, a Trump associate, is simply a small step in Weissmann’s quest to impugn this presidency or to reverse the results of the 2016 election. Never mind that months of investigation by multiple entities have produced no evidence of "collusion." Mueller’s rare, predawn raid of Manafort’s home — a fearsome treat usually reserved for mobsters and drug dealers — is textbook Weissmann terrorism. And of course, the details were leaked — another illegal tactic.

Weissmann is intent on indicting Manafort. It won’t matter that Manafort knows the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians. Weissman will pressure Manafort to say whatever satisfies Weissmann’s perspective. Perjury is only that which differs from Weissmann’s “view” of the “evidence” — not the actual truth.

We all lose from Weissmann’s involvement. First, the truth plays no role in Weissmann’s quest. Second, respect for the rule of law, simple decency and following the facts do not appear in Weissmann’s playbook. Third, and most important, all Americans lose whenever our judicial system becomes a weapon to reward political friends and punish political foes.

It is long past the due date for Mueller to clean up his team — or Weissmann to resign — as a sign that the United States is a nation of laws that are far more important than one Weissmann.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/356253-judging-by-muellers-staffing-choices-he-may-not-be-very-interested-in




Nnanji -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 5:22:10 PM)

We'll see. I'm concerned that he was running the FBI when Hillary was doing her pay for play with the Russians. It seems he should have recused himself from this Russian witch hunt because of it.




BoscoX -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 5:36:51 PM)


It's a plus that congress is investigating Hillary and Obama's pay-for-play deals with the Russians. That it hasn't all been left up to leftist cronies such as Mueller and Comey




kdsub -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 7:37:48 PM)

What will you say if he exonerates Trump? Is it not another sign of the incompetence of this administration when his own Justice Department chooses Mueller?

Butch




LTE -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 7:38:16 PM)

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As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.”


True. So true. Which is why anyone facing prosecution must get the best lawyer they can afford so they can make it too difficult for the prosecutor to walk all over you and win a case because you let him/her.
Which is why The White House is lawyered up. It would be foolish not to be. Mueller's problem now is not to look so impotent at the end so he either presents weak evidence and conjecture or he strongly presents a finding that suggests Trump is the victim here and Hillary is the more interesting and exposed object of his attention.




BoscoX -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 7:42:28 PM)



The story keeps growing, but not in the way leftists are experiencing it in their make-believe worlds:

Bill Clinton sought State’s permission to meet with Russian nuclear official during Obama uranium decision

http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/356323-bill-clinton-sought-states-permission-to-meet-with-russian-nuclear




JVoV -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 7:50:30 PM)

Either I'm having deja vu, or all of this came out during the election.

Oh, and Trump invited his family members into this mess the second he hired them for his campaign.




servantforuse -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 8:27:04 PM)

When this is all over, when ever that may be. The democrats might be very sorry that they pressed the Russian story. I think it will come back to haunt them.




MasterJaguar01 -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 8:46:56 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


He's a political hack. Comey's butt buddy, interested only in revenge and politicizing his duties

Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice

Much has been written about the prosecutorial prowess of Robert Mueller’s team assembled to investigate allegations of Russia’s involvement in the Trump campaign. Little has been said of the danger of prosecutorial overreach and the true history of Mueller’s lead prosecutor.

What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president. The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.

Many Americans despise President Trump and anyone associated with him. Yet turning our system of justice into a political weapon is a danger we must guard against.


Think back to April 1, 1940, and a world awash in turmoil, hate and fear. Revered Attorney General Robert H. Jackson assembled the United States attorneys. In remarks enshrined in the hearts of all good prosecutors, he said, “the citizen's safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches his task with humility.”


Yet Mueller tapped a different sort of prosecutor to lead his investigation — his long-time friend and former counsel, Andrew Weissmann. He is not just a “tough” prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most touted “victories” for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law.

Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Next, Weissmann creatively criminalized a business transaction between Merrill Lynch and Enron. Four Merrill executives went to prison for as long as a year. Weissmann’s team made sure they did not even get bail pending their appeals, even though the charges Weissmann concocted, like those against Andersen, were literally unprecedented.

Weissmann’s prosecution devastated the lives and families of the Merrill executives, causing enormous defense costs, unimaginable stress and torturous prison time. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the mass of the case.

Weissmann quietly resigned from the Enron Task Force just as the judge in the Enron Broadband prosecution began excoriating Weissmann’s team, and the press began catching on to Weissmann’s modus operandi.

Mueller knows this history. Is this why he tapped Weissmann to target Paul Manafort?

As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.”

Manafort, a Trump associate, is simply a small step in Weissmann’s quest to impugn this presidency or to reverse the results of the 2016 election. Never mind that months of investigation by multiple entities have produced no evidence of "collusion." Mueller’s rare, predawn raid of Manafort’s home — a fearsome treat usually reserved for mobsters and drug dealers — is textbook Weissmann terrorism. And of course, the details were leaked — another illegal tactic.

Weissmann is intent on indicting Manafort. It won’t matter that Manafort knows the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians. Weissman will pressure Manafort to say whatever satisfies Weissmann’s perspective. Perjury is only that which differs from Weissmann’s “view” of the “evidence” — not the actual truth.

We all lose from Weissmann’s involvement. First, the truth plays no role in Weissmann’s quest. Second, respect for the rule of law, simple decency and following the facts do not appear in Weissmann’s playbook. Third, and most important, all Americans lose whenever our judicial system becomes a weapon to reward political friends and punish political foes.

It is long past the due date for Mueller to clean up his team — or Weissmann to resign — as a sign that the United States is a nation of laws that are far more important than one Weissmann.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/356253-judging-by-muellers-staffing-choices-he-may-not-be-very-interested-in



Nice article... But at the end of the day, the facts will speak for themselves. Either there is evidence or there is not.




Danemora -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 8:58:51 PM)

~FRing it~

Im honestly a firm believer in Americans being investigated if there is a question as to potential wrongdoing that violates laws of our land on their part. As our POTUS, Trump should be held to that same standard we common folk are held to. Id dare say he is supposed to be *the example* for the rest of us American citizens. If he didnt do anything wrong, there isnt anything to worry about, Trump supporters. He'd be vindicated, yes? Id expect you Trump followers would be real happy about that. Or are y'all worried our dear benevolent leader did wrong and just dont want everyone to know the level of wrong your picked pony did if he was found to have done wrong based on investigation? I see Trump supporters claim how unfair it is that Trump is under investigation, butif there wasnt smoke...no one would need to investigate, would they?




ThatDizzyChick -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 9:15:46 PM)

he is? Then why did Rosenstein appoint him?




heavyblinker -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 10:03:28 PM)

Bosco you are so mindlessly partisan it is a wonder how even you are incapable of realizing it.

Hillary is automatically guilty, Trump is automatically innocent.
Anyone who investigates or undermines Trump in any way is crooked.
Anyone who investigates or undermines Hillary in any way is seeing that justice is served.
Any opinion article that supports your narrative is credible journalism.
Any opinion article that doesn't support your narrative is fake news.
Anyone who supports Trump is simply doing what is right and will benefit the country.
Liberals are always wrong about everything and also evil, conservatives are always right, just, pure, good, etc.

Okay, now you can stop posting because I just summarized absolutely everything you have ever posted and ever will post.




Danemora -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 10:05:49 PM)

I think I just fell in love, HB 😊




DaddySatyr -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 10:44:24 PM)


Mueller's friendship with Comey should have disqualified him from the start since part of his initial edict was Comey's firing.

I'm not saying Comey's a criminal (but he is), but it's just a matter of a close friend of one of the principals' being in charge of the investigation is rife with potential for conflict of interest.



Michael




heavyblinker -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 11:00:30 PM)

Yeah, it seems pretty suspicious that Comey's former coworker who was also the head of the FBI for 12 years was the one who was chosen to head the case.

Only Steve Bannon is truly capable of heading this FBI investigation and conducting it fairly... or maybe Putin.




MrRodgers -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/19/2017 11:24:05 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01


quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX


He's a political hack. Comey's butt buddy, interested only in revenge and politicizing his duties

Judging by Mueller's staffing choices, he may not be very interested in justice

Much has been written about the prosecutorial prowess of Robert Mueller’s team assembled to investigate allegations of Russia’s involvement in the Trump campaign. Little has been said of the danger of prosecutorial overreach and the true history of Mueller’s lead prosecutor.

What was supposed to have been a search for Russia’s cyberspace intrusions into our electoral politics has morphed into a malevolent mission targeting friends, family and colleagues of the president. The Mueller investigation has become an all-out assault to find crimes to pin on them — and it won’t matter if there are no crimes to be found. This team can make some.

Many Americans despise President Trump and anyone associated with him. Yet turning our system of justice into a political weapon is a danger we must guard against.


Think back to April 1, 1940, and a world awash in turmoil, hate and fear. Revered Attorney General Robert H. Jackson assembled the United States attorneys. In remarks enshrined in the hearts of all good prosecutors, he said, “the citizen's safety lies in the prosecutor who tempers zeal with human kindness, who seeks truth and not victims, who serves the law and not factional purposes, and who approaches his task with humility.”


Yet Mueller tapped a different sort of prosecutor to lead his investigation — his long-time friend and former counsel, Andrew Weissmann. He is not just a “tough” prosecutor. Time after time, courts have reversed Weissmann’s most touted “victories” for his tactics. This is hardly the stuff of a hero in the law.

Weissmann, as deputy and later director of the Enron Task Force, destroyed the venerable accounting firm of Arthur Andersen LLP and its 85,000 jobs worldwide — only to be reversed several years later by a unanimous Supreme Court.

Next, Weissmann creatively criminalized a business transaction between Merrill Lynch and Enron. Four Merrill executives went to prison for as long as a year. Weissmann’s team made sure they did not even get bail pending their appeals, even though the charges Weissmann concocted, like those against Andersen, were literally unprecedented.

Weissmann’s prosecution devastated the lives and families of the Merrill executives, causing enormous defense costs, unimaginable stress and torturous prison time. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the mass of the case.

Weissmann quietly resigned from the Enron Task Force just as the judge in the Enron Broadband prosecution began excoriating Weissmann’s team, and the press began catching on to Weissmann’s modus operandi.

Mueller knows this history. Is this why he tapped Weissmann to target Paul Manafort?

As Attorney General Jackson foretold: “Therein is the most dangerous power of the prosecutor: that he will pick people that he thinks he should get, rather than pick cases that need to be prosecuted.”

Manafort, a Trump associate, is simply a small step in Weissmann’s quest to impugn this presidency or to reverse the results of the 2016 election. Never mind that months of investigation by multiple entities have produced no evidence of "collusion." Mueller’s rare, predawn raid of Manafort’s home — a fearsome treat usually reserved for mobsters and drug dealers — is textbook Weissmann terrorism. And of course, the details were leaked — another illegal tactic.

Weissmann is intent on indicting Manafort. It won’t matter that Manafort knows the Trump campaign did not collude with the Russians. Weissman will pressure Manafort to say whatever satisfies Weissmann’s perspective. Perjury is only that which differs from Weissmann’s “view” of the “evidence” — not the actual truth.

We all lose from Weissmann’s involvement. First, the truth plays no role in Weissmann’s quest. Second, respect for the rule of law, simple decency and following the facts do not appear in Weissmann’s playbook. Third, and most important, all Americans lose whenever our judicial system becomes a weapon to reward political friends and punish political foes.

It is long past the due date for Mueller to clean up his team — or Weissmann to resign — as a sign that the United States is a nation of laws that are far more important than one Weissmann.

http://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/356253-judging-by-muellers-staffing-choices-he-may-not-be-very-interested-in



Nice article... But at the end of the day, the facts will speak for themselves. Either there is evidence or there is not.

Yea, it's mostly an opinion piece by someone with an obvious agenda.




BoscoX -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/20/2017 5:34:44 AM)


The last on-topic post:

quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterJaguar01

Nice article... But at the end of the day, the facts will speak for themselves. Either there is evidence or there is not.


Evidence of what? Because it's apparently not about "Russian collusion" any more

If it hasn't become a politically motivated witch hunt, it sure looks like one. People already distrust government and the justice system etc. In the end this can only hurt those who do believe in them (Democrats)

You say the police hunt your children? Well then why do you trust the same justice system to decide who gets to stay in political office

That sort of thing





BoscoX -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/20/2017 5:40:30 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


Yea, it's mostly an opinion piece by someone with an obvious agenda.


You are a moron

The article is packed with verifiable facts regarding Mueller's lead investigator's appalling record and rotten reputation




Musicmystery -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/20/2017 5:45:33 AM)

quote:

Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice


Well, neither is Trump, so perhaps it all works out.




BoscoX -> RE: Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice (10/20/2017 6:03:33 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

quote:

Mueller Is Not Interested In Justice


Well, neither is Trump, so perhaps it all works out.


Anything to obfuscate and derail, little troll boy?





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