JVoV -> RE: An American dialogue (12/3/2017 4:59:36 PM)
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ORIGINAL: JVoV We still don't have equal employment protection in every State yet, although in some cases, sexual harassment suits can come into play. You mean if you were gay, you don't get protected under the same employment laws? HUH??? Even super anti-gay Asian countries give the same employment protection to gays and non-gay people. When it comes to employment, like even in Asian country, they want to know you race, your religion, which is already outlawed in most western nations, but one thing we don't ask or care to know is sexual orientation because it's irrelevant to the job. Also it's their personal sex life and really just like if a woman chose to fuck 100 men in her free time, it's her own sex life and she does not declare. quote:
But what harm does it do you if two men marry one another? People you don't know, in a totally different country than you. My biggest objection is hypocrisy. Until incestuous couples gets the right to get married legally too. I do not support gay marriage. As the reason why both are illegal are for the EXACT same reasons. It's not healthy for children. Yet special treatment is given to homosexuals? Why? At least it's understandable why only heterosexual couples who by nature can naturally produce children naturally with each other gets to get married and get special family friendly privileges. While you know, single folks. I mean, I may want to marry my cat and I won't get special married folks privileges. It's extremely unfair to alot of other "out of norm" couples. PS: The only "job discrimination" I can think of gay people is how all men in Singapore has to serve the military compulsory. But if you declare yourself as a gay man. You will be treated like a woman. Which means. No tough labour for you. You get admin job. Which most men hating the tough labour military will salivate about. But on the other hand, if this gay guy volunteers for the hard labour, I am sure they will be impressed and let him in. Just that most gay guys are more than happy to be let off. As Bama seems to enjoy pointing out, you can marry your first cousin in New Jersey. But in the other 49 states, incest is still illegal. Even for gays. I still can't marry my cat, although I have no idea how many states have or haven't outlawed beastiality. When you're living with a secret of any sort, it damages you and makes you vulnerable. To have to hide who you are sexually can also be extremely dangerous, as there is always a risk of being exposed, and anyone that finds out could potentially use it against you, or to make you do something you wouldn't do otherwise. Living a comfortable, honest life eliminates most of that risk. Now think about this for a moment: if HIV/AIDS were first discovered in heterosexual people in the US, how different would our government's immediate reaction have been? How soon would the CDC have been brought in? Impossible to know, but certainly a prime example of how dangerous 'otherism' can be. I'm not sure that I can make you understand gay life in the US, either in recent history or now. But there are plenty of websites, films, documentaries, and books if you're interested. The movie Stonewall was pretty good. And yes, in some States, you can be legally terminated from your job for being gay. In some States, you can be denied service at some businesses if you're gay too. I'm sure you remember the cake thing.
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