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Without reading through the pages here, I think your word choice of "aggressor" is poor. Otherwise, I get where your coming from.

Despite the rise of political correctness in this age, which has particularly empowered mouthy minorities including feminist nazis, I've still found many women appreciate a man who takes the lead (don't mean the leather kind here...).

Overall, I've found it quite simple to deal with. As a dominant man, I'm not attracted to dominant women. In the vanilla world, substitute "take charge" for dominant.

A big step in the initial right direction is to look more at the woman's eyes than her boobs....

Focus.

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Still, I think you both would agree that none of the children any of us has worked with should be taken into consideration when posting on here. Which I think is the point.

It's most certainly my point. I don't understand how the hell anyone's mind on this site goes down the road of kids when we're talking adults on an adult site that has very specific rules on the subject.
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Perhaps, because you seem to be so up on the rules, you could point out where they say if you speak out against child abuse, like I have, it is against the those rules?

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Still, I think you both would agree that none of the children any of us has worked with should be taken into consideration when posting on here. Which I think is the point.

You really think that is a good idea? Maybe not as individual cases but when talking about how to stop child abuse shouldn't everything be taken into consideration, even here?

Not the topic of this thread.

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...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly.

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As an aside:

Christ almighty - this website really does confound me at times. It's the only site I know where very old men - or somewhat younger men who are, for instance, somewhat vertically challenged and dangerously obese - continually harp on about their 'alphaness', their consequent 'natural assertiveness and aggressiveness', and how political correctness and feminazism (etc, etc) is destroying all that's 'natural' in the world.

A question: How much older, fatter and less fit do I have to become before I can become an alpha (TM) male, myself?

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I'm thinking very clearly thanks, but you are full of crap!

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I'm all for the paedophiles?. You're out of your mind, and you certainly lack reading comprehension. No, you blithering idiot, I'm not for the paedophiles at all. My negativity it totally aimed at you for being so passive aggressive towards other people, and then myself, because you can't accept that actually you are at fault here. You're proving that right now with this accusation, which to an actual abuse victim has to be one of the lowest, and weakest things a mind could come up with. It's as pathetic as the bullshit that Respectmen comes out with when he can't debate reasonably either.

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You see, the rules of the site may not be against discussing pedophiles, or ranting against them, BUT I NEVER SAID THEY WERE ... did I? No, I said the rules are against discussing MINORS, thus no-one should be thinking of them, just as Clover seemed not to be. Only your twisted mind went there. 'Yes means yes' amongst adults, now remember back when I said this comes with qualifications and boundaries? Please tell me that I don't have to Parrot every single fricking thing I say in every single post just so it sticks in your head??? You see, any normal person knows full well not to take advantage of someone that is drunk, or drugged up off their head so that consent couldn't actually be construed as legal. Again though, I shouldn't have had to qualify that to anyone with any reasonable amount of intelligence. Now as for what is my business, you posted in an open forum, and you are picking and twisting what other people are writing to cause arguments, and then included my own words, thus you made it my business! Can't stand that someone is going to pull you up for your bullshit, tough, so get over it.

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...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly.

im not entirely sure what youre saying here, but just to be clear, the only prohibition discussion-wise concerning minors has explicitly to do with illegal activities. there is nothing in the TOS that suggests they cannot be discussed in any other fashion.

in terms of images, the TOS are silent. there is one reference that says: "5.2.1. All depictions of all persons on Our Website are of persons over the age of eighteen (18) as of the date of the production of the depiction. We take great measures to ensure that no underage models appear in any of Our materials."

that is written from the perspective from the site itself. there is nothing that speaks specifically, or even alluding to, what members post, presumably so long as it is not illegal, or along the lines of anything illegal.

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It's not my job to help you know the rules. Just as it isn't my job to teach you to READ. I have put my words about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly.

Again, in the hope it will sink in to your head, the rules are against the mention of anyone under age, thus when we consider consent the thought of anyone under age should be in our minds ON HERE. Just as any reasonably intelligent person also wouldn't be thinking of those that are drunk/drugged. Because I'd only think to qualify that if I was talking to someone really fucking stupid!

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...about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly.

im not entirely sure what youre saying here, but just to be clear, the only prohibition discussion-wise concerning minors has explicitly to do with illegal activities. there is nothing in the TOS that suggests they cannot be discussed in any other fashion.

in terms of images, the TOS are silent. there is one reference that says: "5.2.1. All depictions of all persons on Our Website are of persons over the age of eighteen (18) as of the date of the production of the depiction. We take great measures to ensure that no underage models appear in any of Our materials."

that is written from the perspective from the site itself. there is nothing that speaks specifically, or even alluding to, what members post, presumably so long as it is not illegal, or along the lines of anything illegal.

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The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for.

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I actually was kind enjoying your post until you decided to act like a jerk and started in with your; "(here's a totally! new! concept!) take no for no" idiocy and I thought I bet she also believes that the slogan "just say no to drugs" has stopped drug abuse. I hate to break it to you but real life just doesn't work that way.

Just say no to drugs? Where in your ass did you pull that whack ass straw man from?

But you're right, in real life it doesn't work out that "no means no" because men, such as yourself, keep arguing that "no" means one of a 50 shads of gray instead of a black and white, plain as day, one word sentence.

(And I'll address your non-sequitur for fun... In a family full of hardcore drug addicts, I escaped drug addiction by saying no to drugs. It was simple. I said no when friends offered, and they respected me enough not to ask again. "No" is simple.)

Are really this stupid, great it worked for you, whoopee and yet we are in the midst of a massive drug epidemic, how come "just say no" didn't work for them?

People like you keep saying things idiotic things like "yes means yes and no, no" and some how think that will fix everything and don't realize that you are actually being a pedophilia apologist.

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Oooh, nice side step, you keep bringing up the "Rules" like you wrote them and so some how, because you can't think your way out of a paper bag and won't admit you got who I was and what I was saying wrong, I must be breaking the RULES. Well I'm not and go stick that in your shoe.

PS There is nothing wrong about thinking of children, I do it quite often and often I hope that they don't run into harpies like you that seem to have nothing better to do than poison their innocent minds with their anger and hatred.

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It's not my job to help you know the rules. Just as it isn't my job to teach you to READ. I have put my words about the rules, and my reference to them being about NOT DISCUSSING MINORS IN ANY FORM, you're not even allowed to post memes that contain kids, no matter how funny, because I NEVER said anything about bloody paedophiles and the rules. So, please stop being a first class dick, stop twisting my words, stop doing to me what others have accused you of, that you claim to not do, and read what I've written correctly.

Again, in the hope it will sink in to your head, the rules are against the mention of anyone under age, thus when we consider consent the thought of anyone under age should be in our minds ON HERE. Just as any reasonably intelligent person also wouldn't be thinking of those that are drunk/drugged. Because I'd only think to qualify that if I was talking to someone really fucking stupid!

Do have any idea of how much thought about minors you seem to have put into your posts? Do you have any idea how much you seem write about minors? And as far as I can tell none of it pleasant.

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The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for.

This is what I find so hilarious, I mentioned to Clover that she should revamp her "simple slogan" because it had some serious flaws. Now no one has said the flaws aren't there but have instead given all kinds of rationalizations of why I should have just over looked them and have pretty much continually lambasted me for even bringing them up and yet not one person has even suggested to Clover that she might reconsider her "simple slogan".

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And you are probably right that "aggressor" was likely a poor chose of words but when I was typing it, it didn't seem that offensive.

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<snip> and how political correctness and feminazism (etc, etc) is destroying all that's 'natural' in the world.

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A question: How much older, fatter and less fit do I have to become before I can become an alpha (TM) male, myself?

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Yeah, I know the quote, and as with anyone else that has any amount of intelligence I know it's misguided crap. You see it makes you believe that you should put your faith in someone just because they have a singular enemy to you. Nope, I take every person on pure merit.

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As for the latter part of what you wrote, again, your lack of reading comprehension is not my problem. try going back to school, or I hear they do some great online courses. Now, I have no idea what you think I'm confused about, who you think I have you confused with, what what you think I confused you of saying to whom. So just for clarification I've quoted your post where YOU tell Cover she's being a pedophile apologist.

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Crack on though and do tell me exactly with whom I've got you confused, and what I've misquoted you on

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Really? Do carry on and elaborate exactly what I've said about minors in this thread that is so unpleasant. Be very specific and say exactly what I've said about them. Because apart from saying that they shouldn't be in our heads on this site when we're talking about sex and consent ... BECAUSE WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE ADULTS AND SHOULDN'T HAVE TO USE QUALIFICATIONS ... and I really shouldn't have had to type that last part, but felt like i had to add that clarification for your benefit, which is seriously sad on your part, reminding me again very much of dealing with Respectmen ... and the fact that I am qualified in several aspects to work with kids, as is my son, you've got fuck all.

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Again, your being passive aggressive. Your picking and doing the very things you try saying you don't do. I say you have no right to accuse someone of something based purely on what they say based on it being related to adults on an adult site. I state that the rules state that this is an adult only site, ya know, no minors allowed, no photos, no talking about them in a sexual fashion, thus why would we be thinking of them in this thread, so then YOU accuse me of being on the Paedophiles side. Only someone sick in the head could even go there.

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Now you claim this crap. You need therapy.

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The bullshit aimed at Clover was uncalled for.

This is what I find so hilarious, I mentioned to Clover that she should revamp her "simple slogan" because it had some serious flaws. Now no one has said the flaws aren't there but have instead given all kinds of rationalizations of why I should have just over looked them and have pretty much continually lambasted me for even bringing them up and yet not one person has even suggested to Clover that she might reconsider her "simple slogan".

That's not what you did you raging liar!

See my post below. You threw a horrid insult at her that was totally uncalled for. You were totally out of order. Her comments, to anyone with half a working brain cell didn't need any further clarification. Non of the rest of us have picked Clover up on what she said because we are not stupid enough to have gone where you did. It's really that simple. You, and you alone turned all this into what it is by being out of order about what you said. You're just too damn weak to see it.