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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 8:13:19 AM

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Just want to add, that the CIA, FBI, IC,DOJ as a whole.... is now known as "Deep State" it the "new" code thang.

No one has ever said in any way that AS A WHOLE they are the deep state

That's just more of your insane howling

Denying that political people involved in the vast Washington DC bureaucracies is just as insane

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 8:27:38 AM

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LOL where did I deny something?

I reserve the right to amend my comment.
Just want to add, that the CIA, FBI, IC,DOJ are largely seen by lots of people as "Deep State" ......it the "new" code thang.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 9:06:10 AM

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Let's just see how this unfolds.

If Trump survives these 4 years with the whole world against him.

In my eyes, he would go down in history as a very strong and great President.

I think Trump strives under pressure.

The recent book that his ex campaign wrote, lewoski or something.

Described the whole situation where republicans all abandoned him and thought he would never recover from the "grab your pussy" remark. Even Prieus was abandoning him and said that it's over, there is no way he can recover from this.

But Trump confidently say that, he will win this election with or without the Republicans backing him.

This man has bounce back from some of the worst things that would have crush many others. I think the biggest part is because of his twitter account. He gets to defend himself in his own words. So people read the info from the man directly and read what the media writes. It gives it balance and people can make up their own minds.

So I look forward to see how he will fight this new crisis that he is going to face.

Yea, the morons bought the con.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 9:19:38 AM

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Lewandowski and Bossie

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I will agree with you, to a degree:

If President Trump survives all this bullshit and the economy keeps going the way it is, he's almost a shoe-in in 2020

The economy is exploding

Taking off like a rocket

That may be true for the investor class and rent-seekers (like Trump) but where are the jobs. But for most everybody else, the rocket is a dud. Highest month since taking office, bettered 28 times under Obama, the DOW more than tripled. Yet, [he] was doing nothing...ruining our country.

These discussions are all about your political prejudices...no objectivity at all. I mean after all, Trump we know has much more integrity than Mueller.

Oh and it may well be with most western banks in the business of washing dirty money, Deutsche bank became his launderer of Russian thievery. I understand the bank set up a separate fund to lend to those such as Trump. (I've even read somewhere that should Deutsche Bank need it, would get a German bailout)

Sure is nice being a rich socialist.

This AMERICA kinkroids, were you always, always...follow the money.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 9:45:56 AM

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Lewandowski and Bossie

Reince Priebus

I will agree with you, to a degree:

If President Trump survives all this bullshit and the economy keeps going the way it is, he's almost a shoe-in in 2020

The economy is exploding

Taking off like a rocket

Except, what you are failing to comprehend, is that the economy is booming under programs and acts by his predecessor, not any of Trump's efforts.

You know, kinda like Obama was blamed for the poor economy in his first year, that was basically under bush programs.

And, strictly speaking, the president has little to do with how the economy is going, unless his proposals are accepted by congress, who as history proved with previous presidents of both parties, congress (even a congress controlled by one's own party) can fuck an administration, and seems to take pride in doing so.

Bush sr got fucked by congress on his 'no new taxes' promise, simply because there were enough Republicans that sided with dems during his term.

Bush two got fucked a couple of times on good economic programs he proposed, and by the end of his second term, the economy had tanked.

Obama got fucked by his own party on a few programs, that started as good ideas until spend happy dems in congress got them, and then got the repubs on board to help fuck him over good.

And unfortunately, Trump doesnt care who he pisses off, which is why the Obamacare repeal tanked, his tax bill is getting fucked over, and congress is going to fuck him on the budget.

As for his overseas bank accounts, the simple fact is that we will not know if this was a desperate fishing expedition until the records are made public, at which time you will either be saying 'I told you so' or you will be saying "the fucking bastard lied."

Or you will be in denial.

The worst thing about this who thing is that even if Trump is innocent, his bullshit tweets are making him look like either he is guilty and is trying to cover it up, or he did nothing wrong and he is making himself look guilty and acting like an idiot.

Oh, and his lawyers claiming that the President of the United States cannot obstruct justice better go back and look at the Nixon/watergate case, one of the charges considered against president Nixon was obstruction of justice due to his firing of the first special prosecutor.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 9:52:26 AM

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It doesn't prove that he did anything, but come on... there is no way that anyone but the dumbest mofo in the world could be THIS certain that Trump is totally innocent.

When Trump was running Trump corporation, I expect him to do what is best for Trump Organisation.

Now Trump is running America, I expect him to do what is best for America.

Right now, they are finding fault with his business stuffs with Russians or whatever and trying to tie that to his fitness for Presidency.

Let's see what nonsense they come up with. To me, I expect him to make deals that benefit his business WHEN he was in Trump organization. Not a Crime but totally doing his job.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 9:56:43 AM

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So... What you are saying...

He will be considered a "string and great President".... Why? Because he was caught on tape saying he grabs women by their vaginas, and a large number of his sycophants voted for him anyway???

Interesting measure of strength and greatness.

You do realise Bill Clinton was already a very good President despite already having multiple sexual harassment and rape accusations BEFORE he ran for President right? It was only the Monica incident that dampen his term as President which he was doing pretty well.

The only difference is, Clinton's locker-room talk was never recorded.

Just like Weinstein sexual harrasment reveal still doesn't mean, he wasn't very good at his job being involved in some of the greatest movies ever made.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 10:03:16 AM

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic
Its a sick situation...
but damn its funny

Oh Lucy, you were also filled with derision and ridicule for me, as early as January last year when I was confident Trump will win.
So try to wait until Trump gets impeach before you gloat.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 10:05:38 AM

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im not gloating over trump in that post.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 10:07:43 AM

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Yea, the morons bought the con.

I see absolutely no con.

I think Trump was very straight forward on what his style will be. People voted for exactly what they wanted him to be like. Shake shit up.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 1:30:46 PM

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greta, as a whole here, the left are incapable of granting that others can think and value things differently and still be thoughtful and reasoned about it.

to them, its rather a sign of some deficiency. its one of the very attributes that got trump elected in the first place. they have been told that many times, but it doesn't matter, it seems to be a pathological part of their dna.

its one of the things that makes them insufferable to talk with.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 1:45:16 PM

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Nothing smug nor pompous about that statement.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 3:25:43 PM

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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-12-05/deutsche-bank-is-said-to-have-received-subpoena-on-client-trump

Deutsche Bank is the President's main Russian money laundering bank.

By the end of January, we will see conspiracy, and obstruction of justice charges. The House will be pressured to take this on.

I think the comrades need to shut up for awhile and be lots more circumspect:

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Jay Sekulow, one of Trump’s personal lawyers, said Deutsche Bank has not received any subpoena for financial records relating to the president as part of Mueller’s probe. “We have confirmed that the news reports that the Special Counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false,” Sekulow told Reuters...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-deutsche-bank/deutsche-bank-receives-subpoena-from-mueller-on-trump-accounts-source-idUSKBN1DZ0XN

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Dec 05, 2017 · “We have confirmed that the news reports that the special counsel had subpoenaed financial records relating to the president are false," said Jay Sekulow, a member of Trump’s legal team

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/05/mueller-reportedly-subpoenas-deutsche-bank-in-russia-probe.html

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 4:29:03 PM

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/trumps-deutsche-bank-records-subpoenaed-by-mueller-1512480154

looks like somewhere in time the originator was bloomberg.

"Whether it's a real subpeona, the threat is real."

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 5:38:50 PM

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Nothing smug nor pompous about that statement.

What is pompous is people ridiculing Trump Voters intelligence. That's nearly 50% of the voters they are saying are just so dumb that they are fool by Trump.

But the truth is, they know precisely what they are getting. They didn't want a politician who had a filter. They wanted to put someone in office who will behave completely out of the norm of a normal politician and really really shake things up and do everything differently to see how it works out. That's what they voted for. Trump is doing whatever they wanted.

To seriously challenge both DNC and RNC regular way of doing things.

It already started from Obama when voters voted for someone who had very little political experience. And initially, Obama didn't feel like he had a chance because of his inexperience and youth. But Obama campaign on the right key word, "CHANGE". Which was what people want.

These days, they want innovators. People to bring in new different way of running things. Trump is definitely different too. Obama brought a different feel by being a different race. Trump is different by sheer unsuitable personality for being what's expected of a politician.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 6:05:03 PM

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Nothing smug nor pompous about that statement.

What is pompous is people ridiculing Trump Voters intelligence. That's nearly 50% of the voters they are saying are just so dumb that they are fool by Trump.

You have never seen me say that. I have my criticisms of Trump, but you have never seen me paint his voters with such a broad brush the way that you and bounty both talk about leftists.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 6:24:24 PM

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"Whether it's a real subpeona, the threat is real."

LOL
Of course Trumps lawyers would never lie...
snicker

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 6:31:38 PM

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its not just about trump greta, its pretty much every issue the left disagrees with the right on. the person on the right is "stupid, evil, racist, greedy, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, islamophobic, raaaaaaaaaaaacist, blah blah blah"

and no wayward, its neither "smug" nor "pompous"

I take no great satisfaction in saying it and im actually dismayed by its existence.

and I don't feel self-important in it either. its just a simple, if unfortunate observation, that gets proved here on all the threads, by multiple people, every day.

tell me what I said to greta isn't true.

this might help:

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To "call a spade a spade" is a figure of speech which explicitly calls out something as it is, by its right name. The implication is not to lie about what something is and instead to speak honestly and directly about a topic, specifically topics that others may avoid speaking about due to their sensitivity or the unpleasant or embarrassing nature of the subject.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_a_spade_a_spade

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 6:46:16 PM

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its not just about trump greta, its pretty much every issue the left disagrees with the right on. the person on the right is "stupid, evil, racist, greedy, sexist, misogynist, homophobic, islamophobic, raaaaaaaaaaaacist, blah blah blah"

and no wayward, its neither "smug" nor "pompous"

I take no great satisfaction in saying it and im actually dismayed by its existence.

Yet how many times have you called those on the left your enemies?

How many times have you stated that you are not interested in compromise?

Are you really saying you take no satisfaction in the digs you take at others, such as when you refer to half the people on the boards as comrades or when you rename your townhall links to something regarding comrades or even individual posters?

Not buying it. You have no moral high ground here.

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RE: Mueller Subpoenas Trump Deutsche Bank Records - 12/5/2017 6:48:10 PM

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I think the comrades need to shut up for awhile and be lots more circumspect:

Hahahahahahaha you mean like you have been about hillary?

Didnt you posit that the FBI were going to leave en masse if clinton wasnt found guilty? amongst a myriad other accusations without foundation?
There is foundation here. seeing as trump has a troubled history with deutsche bank

Wether or not its factual, or will be in a few days, we will see, the subpoena.
Of course....banks can be ordered not to notify a customer and presumably lawyers who represent them when grand jury subpoenas are issued for banking records.
Maybe you should be more circumspect about sekulow

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