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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/9/2017 8:37:55 PM   
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The story I read about Huddy's accusation quotes her as saying: "At the time, I didn't think anything of it. I didn't feel threatened and I didn't feel like he was being aggressive. Now, I feel differently."

Forget the rest of how the story is framed, this is her explanation of why she's making accusations, now.

Here's my thoughts:

Spurned hopeful lover?

Vengeful because of the way her career at Fox was handled (She was offered a syndicated show which necessitated her leaving FNC. The syndicated show bombed and she was brought back to FNC, but that didn't last long, either)?

Vengeful because her brother (John Huddy, a reporter based out of Jerusalem) was let go from FNC the day she appeared on Megyn Kelly's show and talked about accusations against Bill O'Reilly?

Attempt to cause strife in the Presidents marriage?

Just to "pile on" in the court of public opinion?

Desire to be relevant?

Money?

Even if my suppositions are incorrect, her above statement clearly indicates something happened to change her mind. Maybe she became a Democrat and is just "toeing the party line"?

ETA: Then, there's Huddy's own Twitter post which goes:

"To be clear: I've lightheartedly told this story 100 times/12 years. Was asked by a friend about it again Thursday on-air. Reckless, incompetent media & trolls (shocker!) sensationalized what was nothing more than an amusing, old anecdote from past. Nothing more, nothing less."





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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/9/2017 10:14:57 PM   
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of course Michael can clarify but i suspect its less about "consensual" relationship and more to do with Clinton's originally denying the existence of it. the issue is one of "being believed."


No, actually.

Aren't we being told, all the time, these days that if a man is in a position of authority, the woman MUST BE a victim of some kind of abuse/she can't really consent?

Ipso facto; he abused her.



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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 1:16:54 AM   
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oh really, then the prez is in serious shit then...
cmon...when are the repubs gonna impeach him?


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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 1:28:09 AM   
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oh really, then the prez is in serious shit then...
cmon...when are the repubs gonna impeach him?



Well, at the time, the president was a game show host and Ms. Huddy worked for Fox News Channel. So, he had no authority over her, what-so-ever.

No "shit" for him to be in other than the "shit" in which every person who's ever been rejected finds themselves.





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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 4:14:58 AM   
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That explains 1/19th of it, or a 5%. 18 more to go, or 95%. You're on a slow roll.

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 4:40:10 AM   
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I agree; that too then...

although that said, and this goes off in a slightly different direction. there are always power differentials.

some are clear and others are a little murkier but given that they always exist and have to be navigated, ive always rejected the all too quick rejection of power or authority being a necessary default disqualifier of relationships. do more things have to be navigated, yes, but I lean towards people having the freedom to do just that. in other words, I think that individual people, and especially those in relationship, tend to matter more than structures or rules.

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 5:00:37 AM   
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some are clear and others are a little murkier but given that they always exist and have to be navigated, ive always rejected the all too quick rejection of power or authority being a necessary default disqualifier of relationships. do more things have to be navigated, yes, but I lean towards people having the freedom to do just that. in other words, I think that individual people, and especially those in relationship, tend to matter more than structures or rules.


Personally, I agree with you, absolutely.

However, the world in which we live judges us based upon a much different standard.

I have an example (although, it is a bit tenuous):

I'm in a position where having a lawyer, on retainer, is essentially a necessity. I'm in a relationship with a lawyer.

Forget the ethics of her profession for a moment although she's not a criminal lawyer so the ethics aren't as stern. Do I "hire" her (I'll bet I'd get a deep discount ) and take the chance that if the relationship goes sour, I was in a "position of authority over her" and open myself up to the "common sense" of today?

Nah. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

This "new order" is forcing changes on human beings that (I believe) fly in the face of human behavior.



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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 8:45:50 AM   
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It's interesting that the Dems went after Franken while the GOP remains largely silent on Trump and Moore.
Didn't they learn anything from 2016?
Nobody gives a shit about ethics and decency!

The right won because they don't let these things hold them back.

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 9:05:53 AM   
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FR to the OP.

Lately,
Democrats kick perves out, Republicans fight to get em elected.

But God is on their side right?

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 9:16:05 AM   
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FR to the OP.

Lately,
Democrats kick perves out, Republicans fight to get em elected.

But God is on their side right?


Bet it almost killed to to have to include that qualifier

Seriously, re the OP, leftist predator schmucks tend to get revealed by seemingly honest victims midterm while a Democrat governor can replace a Democrat with a Democrat (ala Al Franken)

Accusers against the Republicans always come out of the woodwork just prior to an election, even appearing onstage with leftists (ala Hillary Clinton) or working with notoriously far left lawyers etc in over-the-top obvious coordinated bids to wrest Senate control or the presidency from the right

Before now, as you alluded, leftists didn't give a rats ass about victims going all the way back to Ted Kennedy, or even farther if you take foreign socialist regimes into account such as Saddam Hussein and his prolific rape rooms, in which victim's families were forced to watch as professional rapists horrifically raped the women of the family

You fuckwads just turned your heads away for political expedience

Now to hear you howling like mad dogs about hypocrisy only brings tears to my eyes (from laughing so hard)



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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 10:05:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoscoX

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

FR to the OP.

Lately,
Democrats kick perves out, Republicans fight to get em elected.

But God is on their side right?


Bet it almost killed to to have to include that qualifier

Seriously, re the OP, leftist predator schmucks tend to get revealed by seemingly honest victims midterm while a Democrat governor can replace a Democrat with a Democrat (ala Al Franken)

Accusers against the Republicans always come out of the woodwork just prior to an election, even appearing onstage with leftists (ala Hillary Clinton) or working with notoriously far left lawyers etc in over-the-top obvious coordinated bids to wrest Senate control or the presidency from the right

Before now, as you alluded, leftists didn't give a rats ass about victims going all the way back to Ted Kennedy, or even farther if you take foreign socialist regimes into account such as Saddam Hussein and his prolific rape rooms, in which victim's families were forced to watch as professional rapists horrifically raped the women of the family

You fuckwads just turned your heads away for political expedience

Now to hear you howling like mad dogs about hypocrisy only brings tears to my eyes (from laughing so hard)



Not at all fuckwit.

The D side has finally realized that supporting morally bankrupt fucks like Clinton is the road to nowhere.

Stupid-assed, hypocritical hyperpartisan howlers like you and a couple of others on here qwould support Satan if he had an R after his name.

Hell, Our (lifetime Democrat) president fits right in with the perves and you think he's the greatest thing since roofies.

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 10:31:15 AM   
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Stupid-assed, hypocritical hyperpartisan howlers like you and a couple of others on here qwould support Satan if he had an R after his name.


your opinion has absolutely no basis in reality but you like to think what you just is said is true so that what, you can be appear to be "above it all?"

howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?

I trust ive said this before, you'd do well to learn to be more circumspectful.

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The D side has finally realized that supporting morally bankrupt fucks like Clinton is the road to nowhere.


riiiiiiiiiiiiight. tell me if this sounds more likely: it simply became politically expedient for them to change their stripes.




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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 10:42:01 AM   
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~FRing it~

It sadly doesnt surprise me in the least that one pussy grabber is willing to stand arm in arm with another pussy grabber. Birds of a feather being being flock animals and all. After all, its more important to maintain Republican numbers in the Senate apparently.

I thought he was supposed to be draining the Swamp, not encouraging an invasive species from Alabama to take root in it

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 10:44:27 AM   
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howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?

I thought it was an underaged girl el presidente paid off when he was campaigning last year?

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:08:11 AM   
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[howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?





One sure came around and spent a lot of time there.

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:16:56 AM   
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oh really, then the prez is in serious shit then...
cmon...when are the repubs gonna impeach him?



Well, at the time, the president was a game show host and Ms. Huddy worked for Fox News Channel. So, he had no authority over her, what-so-ever.

No "shit" for him to be in other than the "shit" in which every person who's ever been rejected finds themselves.





LOL no, wrong
he has never been "just" a game show host
As in employment? authority no, maybe not.
His reputation, money and power yes. And its something he uses on everyone and has done since the 70s
Please dont try that bullshit
I look at huddy as being similar to leeann tweedon.
Angry about being forced into a kiss, and remembering it now.

There are 13 other women with credible accusations against him.
9 against moore,
Would you like to be kissed by a 6ft 3 bloke??
or grabbed by the testickles?

There are millions of women out there that have been harrassed and much much worse, but this is a seminal change, and yes, its not going away.
expect more, because truthful or questionable, its not reached its full potential

Women are just as entitled to be free of sexual assault as men are.
You(generic) arent born with hate, racism, sexism, you learn it
Anything that is learned can be unlearned.

Half the population is women, how many of them have been sexually harassed, do you think?????
As usual, this is an argument, that few women here, have taken part in.
why is that?
Apart from the fact that this is a kink board and about power control.
It is a choice. it is consent. even if its non consent consent
There is the difference.
Being kissed by trump shudder, it would be like me saying you would enjoy being kissed and cornered by hillary.



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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:21:09 AM   
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howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?

I thought it was an underaged girl el presidente paid off when he was campaigning last year?

Apparently she gave up her suit, because of big lawyers, and she was getting death threats.
of course others say she was lying,
There was a mention of it again a couple of weeks ago, but she is in "hiding"
This is the guardians side last year
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:22:58 AM   
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ORIGINAL: WhoreMods


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howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?

I thought it was an underaged girl el presidente paid off when he was campaigning last year?

Apparently she gave up her suit, because of big lawyers, and she was getting death threats.
of course others say she was lying,
There was a mention of it again a couple of weeks ago, but she is in "hiding"


Sounds about right. Of course, Hilary C is the real villain in this, for putting the woman up to it...

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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:23:44 AM   
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its all down to hillary!!!!!


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RE: Why are conservative such hypocrites with sexual ab... - 12/10/2017 11:28:37 AM   
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Stupid-assed, hypocritical hyperpartisan howlers like you and a couple of others on here qwould support Satan if he had an R after his name.


your opinion has absolutely no basis in reality but you like to think what you just is said is true so that what, you can be appear to be "above it all?"

howd that thread work out for you where all the "usual suspects" were supposed to show up and "defend" the politician with the "R" after his name who was soliciting sex from an underage male prostitute?

I trust ive said this before, you'd do well to learn to be more circumspectful.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
The D side has finally realized that supporting morally bankrupt fucks like Clinton is the road to nowhere.


riiiiiiiiiiiiight. tell me if this sounds more likely: it simply became politically expedient for them to change their stripes.





politically expedient...something the Rs have never played.
supporting moore over values, party over country.
supporting moore because of a tax vote and abortion.
Yep thats not politically expedient at all




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