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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 11:59:44 AM   
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Yes Allred screwed up here. She chased an ambulance and rushed her facts. But it was not presented to any court, so no ethics violations can actually be claimed.

And it still doesn't' change any of the story.


I'm wondering if you're making this claim based upon any evidence? The author of the article, obviously, believes there's been some kind of filing. That is the "fact" upon which I based my claim of tampering with "evidence" which is what Lucy (specifically) and you (by inference) contended.

If there was some kind of court filing (civil or criminal) in which the yearbook was presented, that made the book "evidence" in that case. If the yearbook was tampered with (Allred and Nelson seem to be admitting that) then a charge of tampering with evidence would be appropriate.

Can you state, definitively - with some kind of evidence to back it up - that the author is wrong and there has been no filing to either civil or criminal court?

. o 0 (Forget the "criminal" court. I'll concede that, based upon SoL)




You are asking me to prove a negative.

If there has been no filing, there is no documentation.

But as you are willing to concede the criminal court part based on SofL, then maybe you will accept this:

Alabama Statutes of Limitations

Every state has its own unique statutes of limitation for both criminal and civil cases, which are essentially time limits for either filing a civil complaint or (for prosecutors) filing criminal charges on behalf of the state. In Alabama, most civil actions have a two-year statute of limitations, with exceptions including a six-year time limit for trespassing, rent collection, and debt collection. Alabama imposes a 12-month limit for all misdemeanors and a three-year time limit for most felonies, although the most serious crimes have no statutory time limits whatsoever, including murder, counterfeiting, arson, or sex offenses with minors under 16.
http://statelaws.findlaw.com/alabama-law/alabama-statutes-of-limitations.html

NOTE: this states that there is no statue of limitations for sex offenses. However, that was not passed into law until 1985, and only applies to cases after that time period. Incidents prior to 1985 are still subject to a statue of limitations of (I think) 5 years.

Also this:
http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/11/roy_moore_could_alabama_senate_1.html

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 12:03:50 PM   
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Was that the one without "evidence of tampering", and the non existent "court" it could be produced at?


Yep, that would be the one. Still waiting on him to show how what he said wasn't a lie.


You accuse me of being a liar. I re-present the evidence upon which I based my claim.

While I may have been mistaken in believing that author's contention, how does that make me a liar?

This is the kind of bullshit I'm always on about. I didn't lie. I gave the author the benefit of the doubt.





Which I acknowledged was an error on my part in post #51.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 12:19:39 PM   
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Which I acknowledged was an error on my part in post #51.


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I acknowledge that using the word 'lie' was incorrect on my part. You simply hadn't done your research and relied on fake news.


So, just so I can "get the rules right" for the future, is AOL or Yahoo "fake news"?





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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 12:41:01 PM   
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Which I acknowledged was an error on my part in post #51.


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I acknowledge that using the word 'lie' was incorrect on my part. You simply hadn't done your research and relied on fake news.


So, just so I can "get the rules right" for the future, is AOL or Yahoo "fake news"?





I believe in this case, AOL. Yahoo a close second for republishing it. And anyone else who does. That's why I usually research things before I post them.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 12:43:25 PM   
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when you consider my understanding and usage of the word "hyperpartisan" relies, as I have explained, on a heavy emphasis of the descriptor "UNCRITICAL" in terms of thinking and support, no, I don't think of my looking at the left as the "enemy" as hyperpartisan.

that doesn't mean I hate them, or don't value them as people, or have respect for them---ive said numerous times, we think differently and we value differing things---however, in so much as I find what they value incompatible with what I value, I nevertheless want to defeat them and in that regard, they can rightly be viewed as "the enemy."

an extra thought on the "respect" line--given the nature of the comrades here, there is very little to none of that in me for them.



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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 1:19:17 PM   
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when you consider my understanding and usage of the word "hyperpartisan" relies, as I have explained, on a heavy emphasis of the descriptor "UNCRITICAL" in terms of thinking and support, no, I don't think of my looking at the left as the "enemy" as hyperpartisan.

that doesn't mean I hate them, or don't value them as people, or have respect for them---ive said numerous times, we think differently and we value differing things---however, in so much as I find what they value incompatible with what I value, I nevertheless want to defeat them and in that regard, they can rightly be viewed as "the enemy."

an extra thought on the "respect" line--given the nature of the comrades here, there is very little to none of that in me for them.


That may be how you choose to view it, but it can be fairly argued otherwise.

Definition of partisan

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/hyperpartisan
Extremely partisan; extremely biased in favor of a political party.
Sharply polarized by political parties in fierce disagreement with each other.

This exact same definition is used in link after link after link that I looked at to research the definition. So while you may choose to focus on one aspect of your definition, surely you can see how reasonable people can agree that the word does apply to you.

In terms of your comment about respect, when you address everyone who does not agree with you politically as 'comrades' every time you post, then surely you can understand how that would not encourage respect in your direction either. It speaks of derision with every utterance. So it is hard for people to take you seriously when you talk about being 'uncritical' or don't value other points of view.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 6:39:11 PM   
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Daily Caller is reporting that lowlife scum Democrat House Intelligence Committee members apparently leaked confidential information about an email sent to Donald Trump Jr that Trump Jr didn't even read... And CNN changed the details around to make it seem like a big deal

Might as well make the howling mad leftist idiots even more insane, right

Just another normal ordinary day for the leftist propagandists running the nation's "news" business

CNN Botches Major ‘Bombshell’ Alleging Contacts Between Don Jr. And WikiLeaks

CNN misreported key details of an offer made to Donald Trump Jr. last year of a batch of stolen Wikileaks documents.

The story, which CNN published on Friday and covered extensively on TV, was touted as the first evidence that the Trump campaign was given a heads-up about documents stolen from Democrats.

But the story appears to have been riddled with errors, while also lacking key context.

Perhaps the most jarring error in the CNN report is the date on which Trump Jr. was sent the email. The network reported that a person named Mike Erickson emailed Trump Jr. and others on the Trump campaign on Sept. 4, 2016, with a link to Wikileaks documents as well as a decryption key to access them.


The email also offered access to emails that had been stolen from former Sec. of State Colin Powell, according to CNN.

But a copy of the email provided to The Daily Caller shows that Erickson sent the email on Sept. 14.

That date is significant because WikiLeaks had released a batch of stolen documents on Sept. 13. The group touted its release of the DNC documents, which were published by Guccifer 2.0.

...

How CNN got its report so wrong is unclear.

The article states that its information was based on a read-out of the Trump Jr. email provided by an unnamed source. Trump Jr.’s lawyer, Alan Futerfas, speculated on Friday that the source was on the Democratic side of the House Intelligence Committee, which interviewed Trump Jr. earlier this week.

Erickson also appears not to be a super-secret Kremlin agent. The Post identified him as the president of an aviation management company.

Attempts made by The Daily Caller to contact him were unsuccessful.

Futerfas, the lawyer for Trump Jr., said that the real estate executive received “tons of unsolicited emails” during the campaign.

“The email was never read or responded to — and the House Intelligence Committee knows this,” he said in a statement.

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So your point is...

CNN, made a minor error in its reporting and corrected it (and the Daily Caller hyped it) ---> Therefore the entire administration is innocent of any wrongdoing?

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 6:51:08 PM   
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So your point is...

CNN, made a minor error in its reporting and corrected it (and the Daily Caller hyped it) ---> Therefore the entire administration is innocent of any wrongdoing?


To most thinking people, a major "news" organization lying about the facts in order to make a nothing story into a seemingly major political bombshell is rather more than a "minor error"

It's okay though, we are used to you playing the part of a mindless hyperpartisan howler on here so by all means carry on

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 8:10:47 PM   
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Yeah, based upon the standard set, here, we have these "fake news" organizations:

AOL
CNN
Bloomberg (erroneously reported Trump Deutsche Bank subpoena)

I feel like Santa Claus

. o 0 (He's makin' a list and checkin' it twice ...)





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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 10:21:26 PM   
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Yeah, based upon the standard set, here, we have these "fake news" organizations:

AOL
CNN
Bloomberg (erroneously reported Trump Deutsche Bank subpoena)

I feel like Santa Claus

. o 0 (He's makin' a list and checkin' it twice ...)






ETA: I forgot "The View" which is listed under ABC's "News" division. That show should be a gold mine of "fake news"





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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 11:02:42 PM   
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an extra thought on the "respect" line--given the nature of the comrades here,


You explain yourself so well.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/9/2017 11:14:50 PM   
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To most thinking people,


You have this amusing and entertaining way of eliminating yourself from the discussion by your own petard right at the outset, in every post.


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a major "news" organization lying about the facts in order to make a nothing story into a seemingly major political bombshell is rather more than a "minor error"


-It is indeed more than that.-

It's how to get elected president!



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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 8:19:51 AM   
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To most thinking people, a major "news" organization lying about the facts in order to make a nothing story into a seemingly major political bombshell is rather more than a "minor error"



100% agreed. Please cite evidence that CNN deliberately lied.

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It's okay though, we are used to you playing the part of a mindless hyperpartisan howler on here so by all means carry on


By "we", you mean yourself in your hyperpartisan world, Yes indeed.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 8:46:58 AM   
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Cite all of the times CNN lies have favored the president, rather than reported bombshells against him and his team that were not true, as in the following examples:

Seven times in the last year that CNN howlers shit the bed



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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:00:46 PM   
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The U.S. Media Yesterday Suffered its Most Humiliating Debacle in Ages: Now Refuses All Transparency Over What Happened

FRIDAY WAS ONE of the most embarrassing days for the U.S. media in quite a long time. The humiliation orgy was kicked off by CNN, with MSNBC and CBS close behind, with countless pundits, commentators and operatives joining the party throughout the day. By the end of the day, it was clear that several of the nation’s largest and most influential news outlets had spread an explosive but completely false news story to millions of people, while refusing to provide any explanation of how it happened.

The spectacle began on Friday morning at 11:00 am EST, when the Most Trusted Name in News™ spent 12 straight minutes on air flamboyantly hyping an exclusive bombshell report that seemed to prove that WikiLeaks, last September, had secretly offered the Trump campaign, even Donald Trump himself, special access to the DNC emails before they were published on the internet. As CNN sees the world, this would prove collusion between the Trump family and WikiLeaks and, more importantly, between Trump and Russia, since the U.S. intelligence community regards WikiLeaks as an “arm of Russian intelligence,” and therefore, so does the U.S. media.

This entire revelation was based on an email which CNN strongly implied it had exclusively obtained and had in its possession. The email was sent by someone named “Michael J. Erickson” – someone nobody had heard of previously and whom CNN could not identify – to Donald Trump, Jr., offering a decryption key and access to DNC emails that WikiLeaks had “uploaded.” The email was a smoking gun, in CNN’s extremely excited mind, because it was dated September 4 – ten days before WikiLeaks began promoting access to those emails online – and thus proved that the Trump family was being offered special, unique access to the DNC archive: likely by WikiLeaks and the Kremlin.

It’s impossible to convey with words what a spectacularly devastating scoop CNN believed it had, so it’s necessary to watch it for yourself to see the tone of excitement, breathlessness and gravity the network conveyed as they clearly believed they were delivering a near-fatal blow on the Trump/Russia collusion story:


There was just one small problem with this story: it was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story – and then hyped it over and over and over – the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

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CNN video imbedded in the above article makes it very clear that CNN howlers really beleived they finally had what they needed to achieve their coup

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:31:23 PM   
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why arent you commenting on fox, or gateway pundit, or breitbart, if you are angry about "lying" media?
oh thats right
you cant, with any substance.
As we have seen project veritas try to set up wa po, a false accusation and lie about roy moore,
it seems that "unnamed sources" to reporters are getting things wrong(what a shock)
I wonder who is arranging that
(must be hillary)





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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:35:58 PM   
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why arent you commenting on fox, or gateway pundit, or breitbart, if you are angry about "lying" media?
oh thats right
you cant, with any substance.
As we have seen project veritas try to set up wa po, a false accusation and lie about roy moore,
it seems that "unnamed sources" to reporters are getting things wrong(what a shock)
I wonder who is arranging that
(must be hillary)






If you had three brain cells to rub together (you and all your troll friends put together)?

You wouldn't have to constantly be so desperate to make all of these threads about me personally

You could on occasion, discuss politics

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:41:26 PM   
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LMAO thats ironic

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:50:52 PM   
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They dont understand; irony, sarcasm, or sardonic, you are explaining they wear no clothes, and they don't think as grandly, being wholly incapable of thought with fact.

twats is what they are.

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RE: CNN Mad Howlers And Their Howling Madness - 12/10/2017 1:58:22 PM   
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dickholes
not twats.


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