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1950's Household - 9/3/2006 2:13:52 PM

loobylou

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i am not sure if this topic has been posted before, but i was wondering if you could tell me what the true meaning of a 1950's household lifestyle is. i am curious to know what it is about 1950's....

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 2:18:39 PM

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I've never encountered it myself but I would assume it means you live in the stylized verison of the 50s, pretending that men didn't do any housework and the women always wore pretty dresses and heels while they did the vacuuming. If you are planning on having kids I would be careful about that.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 2:20:34 PM

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hi loobylou,
i have an article i can email you on 1955's household cleaning.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 4:14:06 PM

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It's an age of nostalgia, where the epitome of the nuclear heterosexual family, in adorable generic suburbia, with clean kids and "parking" was still popular.

Essentially, a Leave it to Beaver existence.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 4:17:37 PM

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It was a life I lived outwardly when I was a child in the 60's & early 70's.

However, my parents were swingers so it wasn't Rob & Laura. (Maybe closer to Lucy & Desi.)

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 4:53:46 PM

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To me it's about a demarcation of societal "roles" that is very defined. The man is the breadwinner, the woman keeps house and watches over any unmentionables (kids). The woman is always a demure, little lady in public, and whatever her man wants her to be in the bedroom (or when it comes to sex or bdsm actvitiy)- but is always, always thinking of his comfort and looking for ways to be pleasing toward him. She is never socially confrontational, very polite, and is sociable, and a good hostess, cook, and reliable partner. She is serene. Style of dress can be dresses or skirts and heels, or not - but the woman takes pains to always look "pretty" for her man. The man is strong and protective, and someone to lean on. He is a comforting, and reliable presence who can be counted on to decide what to do in confusing situations. He calms fears, and makes all major household decisions, and many minor ones, too, perhaps. He manages the finances. I love the idea of a fifties household. I think I was born in the wrong generation.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 8:08:14 PM

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To me it's about a demarcation of societal "roles" that is very defined. The man is the breadwinner, the woman keeps house and watches over any unmentionables (kids). The woman is always a demure, little lady in public, and whatever her man wants her to be in the bedroom (or when it comes to sex or bdsm actvitiy)- but is always, always thinking of his comfort and looking for ways to be pleasing toward him. She is never socially confrontational, very polite, and is sociable, and a good hostess, cook, and reliable partner. She is serene. Style of dress can be dresses or skirts and heels, or not - but the woman takes pains to always look "pretty" for her man. The man is strong and protective, and someone to lean on. He is a comforting, and reliable presence who can be counted on to decide what to do in confusing situations. He calms fears, and makes all major household decisions, and many minor ones, too, perhaps. He manages the finances. I love the idea of a fifties household. I think I was born in the wrong generation.

- Susan

Think she nailed it.....!!!!!!!

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 8:52:17 PM

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There are actually days when I almost feel cheated, because women aren't really raised to adore men anymore. I can remember, up until I was maybe 7 or 8 years old, my sisters and I had twin 16 year olds who babysat for us - the Cummins twins. They looked almost exactly like the Doublemint Twins you see in the Doublemint gum commericials in magazines: Blonde hair, headbands, blue eyes, and sweet smiles. Thye were so pretty and so nice. We wanted to be just like them - and they were so nice to us. They used to talk to my sisters and I about how strong and "dreamy" their boyfriends were - and how much they adored them because they were so strong and handsome, and how they could not wait to cook dinners for them - and also what good kissers they were (although they went a little easy when it came to describing the kissing - we were little girls). In those days, my mother used to talk about how much she loved taking care of my father, and how someday, we'd be able to do that kind of thing, too. And how much she adored my father, and what a good man he was, and how much she loved him because he took such good care of all of us.

And then, when I got to be about 11 or 12, the feminist movement came along and suddenly, any talk like that was gone. Nobody wore dresses anymore. My mom stopped wearing gloves. She got a job, and nobody talked anymore about what good it was to take care of men, and the word "homemaker" almost became taboo. It all just disappeared - almost overnight, it seemed. I sort of wondered what happened. I just miss the feeling I used to get when people used to describe men and women that way - because it felt wonderful to me to someday look forward to having some man to look up to and adore, and know they were going to care about watching over me or protecting me - because they actually wanted to do that, and it made them feel good inside . Nobody ever, ever talks that way anymore, ever.

- Susan

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 9:12:15 PM

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It was a time when Women traditionally didnt have much choice other then to get married, stay home and have babies. Men worked and were the *bread winners*. Women were supposed to be pretty for their hubbies and tend their every need, Men had to earn money and supposedly take care of the finances and the family.

I wouldn't say its the best time for women nor for men as you didn't have many choices. You were forced into a mold and more or less had to live with it. Alot of women don't want to be Harriet Homemaker and alot of Men don't want to be Bobby Breadwinner, some people just want to be themselves and able to do their own *thing*.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/3/2006 9:26:56 PM

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The disadvantage to a woman in the 1950's (or sooner) was that she didn't have any economic parity with a man. She couldn't get a bank loan in her own name, she had to have a male relative as a co-signer. I remember seeing "Women wanted" and "Men wanted" in the classifieds for jobs - and the women's ads were always limited to things like: Secretary, clerk, teacher, nurse, nurse's aide, maid, cashier, etc. - and they really were paid a whole lot less than men, and it was legal. Everyone thought it was normal. The fallout to this was that if a woman was married to a wife and child beater (non-consensual beating, of course) who was alcoholic and gambled his paycheck (if he even had a job) at the race-track, for example, she really was just kind of stuck - because she couldn't support herself on half of what a man made, much less take her children with her. People in miserable marriages really were forced to grin and bear it - and you couldn't tell the neighbors, because everyone gossiped all the time.

I remember there was a divorced woman on my block when I was a little girl, and all of the housewives were shocked because she 1) Worked and 2) was divorced. It was equated, somehow, with being a sleaze, if female. And in grade school, the one girl in my fifth grade class of 45 kids who had divorced parents was more or less shunned because of it. Some parents even wouldn't let their kids hang out with her - it's as if she had a disease they were afraid their own might catch, somehow. It was sad. I was nice to her, mostly because I was intrigued by her name, which was Venus (and she really was absolutely beautiful, but it didn't matter, her mom was a "sleazy divorcee'").

Racial bigotry was also rampant, and everyone seemed to think that was just fine, too (except my parents didn't think it was fine at all. My mother waltzed us out of a Wooloworth's store in 1964 because it still had "Whites only" lunch counters. I sat on a stool at the "Colored only" part, (I couldn't read yet) - and the waitress yelled at me for it, and my mom got mad and yanked me off the stool, told the waitress she was an idiot, and we never went back there). I always loved her for that. I told that story at her eulogy, and my dad cried,and my sisters bawled their eyes out.

Yes, the 1950's (and even the 1960's) had some drawbacks. I remember an uncle telling my sister (who wanted to be a lawyer from the age of 8, she was addicted to watching "Perry Mason" on tv) - "girls can't be lawyers" at a family picnic, and nobody said a word about that (except my father, on the way home. It ticked him off, because he knew my sister was smart. He also had no sons, and he knew we were all bright as any guy, and encouraged us to do whatever we wanted from day one). He told her right then if she wanted to go to law school, he'd make sure she did, if she studied. Remarks like that didn't bother me as much, because I wasn't interested in a "traditionally male dominated" field like law or medicine was back then. For a long time, I wanted to be an art teacher in an Elementary school.

- Susan

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 12:01:57 AM

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Thankyou all for your replies and yes i agree with susanofO this is what i imagined 1950's to be like. i was just curious as to why 1950's household was listed in the tick boxes of choices on BDSM questionaires and thought there was more to this lifestyle than being a woman in the house.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 7:15:42 AM

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While by no means wishing to idealise the position of women in the 50's, particularly those stuck in unhappy marriage as pointed out above, I wonder if things havent swung too far the other way. The rise of female delinquency, stress etc might indicate yes.

When in the UK we have female soccer commentators on TV then I know something is wrong. lol
We will be getting lady wrestlers next.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 7:16:18 AM

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i loved reading your posts SusanofO. i thought that was worth saying here.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 8:34:45 AM

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Those elements that SusanofO discusses are right on target. I was there. LOL Part of my attraction to BDSM comes from seeing D/s as related to the strong provider/protector male with the appreciative, confident female.

If you have seen the play "Defending the Caveman," he discusses men creating safe places for women to do their "magic." Politically incorrect today, but it seems a part of my basic nature.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 9:00:55 AM

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Ya..the 50's....cool cars..cool motorcycles...women in skirts wearing real stockings(yeowww)...simpler times...a fist fight instead of a murder...drive-ins (man I miss those)...etc. Was born in '54 and just barely caught the tail end of what I consider the good ol days.......

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 9:57:00 AM

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Reminds me of something my father said the other day. i was over his house and we were watching an old game show on the game show network the other day and he said see back then women actually wore dresses and stockings. I actually did not know what he was talking about because if i remember that show was in the early 70's

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 10:04:37 AM

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i like living in a traditional home. i will retire next year, when my husband graduates college and gets a job as a CPA (after getting cert's and stuff).

i like having my man as the breadwinner. i love the term housewife and will wear it proudly. i look forward to having my children and keeping house . i think today being that there are no defined roles, it has taken a turn for the worse. Ever go into public and notice the way people act? So much lack of respect! And the language in public has made it acceptable to use the "f" word rampantly.

i know a traditional household is not for everyone. i prefer it, it does not make it "right" or the right way, but it is so much easier.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/4/2006 12:05:44 PM

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I was born in 1950 (The Year of the Tiger) and I can remember a lot of things about the 50's.
Elvis Presley on the radio and my mother having me and my brother sing "hound dog", the last steam engine locomotives, great looking cars, "duck and cover" in school, "I LIKE IKE" campaign buttons, having a milkman, who I found out just passed away in July and was a glider pilot during d-day and highly decorated combat veteran in the European Theater, (Joe Monks) my mother did work nights though as a telephone operator to get extra money to build our house that we moved into in 1960.
Also my father was a firefighter in the Boston area and I can remember me and my brother walking down to the firehouse with his lunch. It was an old wooden building with three stories that was built in the 1870's I think and had one of those old pot-bellied stoves that they put coal into.
And I remember those old ww2 cargo planes B-19's I think always flying over our house from Hanscom AFB in Concord going to Berlin for that Airlift.
So it was a little different for me but most of my friend's mothers didn't work.
I like a 1950's style household too only with a Victorian twist, the sub wearing a maid's uniform around the house and taking care of the house and me.
And when we go out to dinner and a show having her on my arm dressed nicely and opening doors for her and pulling her chair out for her and helping her on and off with her coat which some may not consider "Domley" but things that I like to do for my sub.
In that type of household she could work outside the home or not, her choice.

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/5/2006 6:44:09 AM

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petcerina: Thank you. I am flattered you think so. I appreciate the compliment.

Yo the OP loobylou: I don't think there really is a whole lot more to a general "1950's life-style" choice in the CM members' profile register. But - I could be wrong - I've wondered the same thing myself about a defintion. I think a definition of it may ultimately boil down to whatever the Domiant and submissive (or a Master and slave) think that definition entails. I've also wondered the same question you bring up abut the "Victorian household" choice in the profile register of a CM members' preferences. I still don't know much about that (but there are threads on it I can look up, if interested, and I have). Yours is a good question, I think. I hope more people describe what their definition of a 1950's life-style is, as they've done on this thread, to help you. I know there are people at CM who actually remember living in that decade, like some here have described.

popeye: I remember having a milkman and a milkbox, too! From the Roberts and Alamito dairies.

- Susan

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RE: 1950's Household - 9/5/2006 1:48:53 PM

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1950-1959 The end of World War II brought thousands of young servicemen back to America to pick up their lives and start new families in new homes with new jobs. With an energy never before experienced, American industry expanded to meet peacetime needs. Americans began buying goods not available during the war, which created corporate expansion and jobs. Growth everywhere. The baby boom was underway.

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