Malkinius
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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress
You misunderstand me. I do not think that the brutish neanderthal men are the typical gor follower. The ones I have met are the type who live in their folk's basement and have no clue how to relate to or deal with women in a healthy emotional way. When a woman challanges them, she is a feminazi, because they are so afraid of her that they can't relate to her as an equal. They have to degrade her and her opinions so they can remain secure and male. They never managed to make that healthy seperation from Mommy, and women have to be kept firmly in place or they may take over. Horrors. (Don't you just hate a woman with an understanding of psychology?)
greetings BeachMystress....
Sorry about coming in late to this thread but I have been otherwise occupied the last few days. As ShadowKnight correctly pointed out and as you prove here, you have never met, online or offline a Gorean. You may have run across people playing at it, but if you had ever met the real thing you wouldn't be repeating this old slanderous garbage. Whatever you understand about psychology is irrelevant unless you have fact instead of fantasy to work from. So far, you have less grasp of the reality of those who live as Goreans than you claim Goreans have on reality.
Pay attention to those people who do know the reality instead of your fantasy about Goreans. It only makes you look foolish and immature to keep repeating the same old things and never paying any attention to what others say. Are all Goreans well adjusted, top of their fields types of people? No. No more than anyone else is. Has any Gorean ever been taken to jail and made the newspapers for their activities as Goreans? Not that I know of. You can not say that about people in the BDSM lifestyle. I wish you could.
To be honest, BDSM has given Goreans a bad name because people who don't know better associate us with you. That is because too many people treat the trappings of Gor as another way of playing their bedroom games. Or those losers who can't get a sub in the BDSM areas so they think that Gorean slaves are easy pickings and go trolling there. Trust me, the Gorean boards and lists say as much bad about BDSM as you do here. Perhaps even more as there is more that can be said.
The big difference between us is that I can be a Gorean man any where and any time. I don't need anyone else to validate my status. Your status as mistress is dependant on you having someone to be mistress to. Without them, you lose what defines you here. But what about the slaves you ask? The answer is real simple. They are what we call a perk, not a requirement. From those I know who have been Gorean the longest, there seems to be a trend away from having slaves. You could call it a phase some men go through.
As to the thory of Natural Order....that just means that in nature, some creatures in a species will tend to be dominant over others. This is most often seen as a sexual difference but is also between members of the same sex. This is not the same thing as the D/s of BDSM. It just means that someone leads and others follow. In mamals, the male is most often the outward going and active partner and the female is the inward looking and nurturing partner. Thus the male leads and the female follows. Yes, this is basic psychology. No, in all cases, at the individual level, this is not true. It is true in the general sense. In humans, we seem to have selected for certain traits with our genetic pairings. The emphasis of this is one of those selections. It is also noted that the more dominant or the more of a leader someone is, the more they attract followers. In some cases, what they attract is the inverse of what they are. Thus the most dominant male will tend to attract the least dominant female. The Master attracts the would be slave. That is the extreme example of this.
The other big misconception about Goreans is that they try to act macho all the time. The reality is that we almost never do. Macho means that you are trying to prove your manhood. When you finally become a man, you no longer need to prove it. Thus, the more macho someone seems or acts, the less of a man you know they are. Or, maybe just the more clueless they are. I can't say that Goreans have never acted macho. <grins> I know better than that. Everyone has some growing up to do. It just takes some much longer than others and some never get there and everyone makes their mistakes along the way. That is how we learn and grow.
Actually....I do wish you well...and wish you the knowledge and understanding to get over your obvious fear of Goreans. Perhaps it is protection because you think that they are the ones who can easily master you and you are so afraid of that?
Malkinius
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But I do want to note that Female Supremacy is not the same thing as Female Domination, and many guys who pick Female Supremacy as an interest really don't know what they are choosing. 
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