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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 10:20:28 AM   
LotusSong


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And take all the fun out of what I do?  Not a chance.


I prefer the "Lady or the Tiger" approach.  When given choices and they choose the dick.. THEN you can do your humiliation.  It's much more effective :)
 
Or better yet..have them choose between sucking the strap on.. or the real thing.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 10:22:26 AM   
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Or better yet..have them choose between sucking the strap on.. or the real thing.


neither for me, thanks


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 10:26:50 AM   
LotusSong


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neither for me, thanks



(to take from an old Monty Python's sketch) "Oh!  You're just no fun anymore!"

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 10:27:54 AM   
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neither for me, thanks


LOL yes, yes we get it

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 10:28:01 AM   
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i prefer not to have anything in my mouth that i would end up choking on.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 12:01:33 PM   
rulemylife


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"methinks he doth protest too much"

Come on Michael.  We all know you spend your nights curled up under the covers with the latest issue of  "Burly Bear" magazine.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 9:40:48 PM   
flipr


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Me thinks michael complain alittle to much, maybe there really are underlying wants he is afraid to explore

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 9:43:12 PM   
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i would sooner die than have any male come near me...there is no underlying wants here...what does exist is an overwhelming hatred of being male and placed in the same category as them.

**Edited to minimize hate mail**


< Message edited by michaelGA2 -- 10/19/2006 10:07:45 PM >


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/19/2006 9:58:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: flipr

Me thinks michael complain alittle to much, maybe there really are underlying wants he is afraid to explore


So if you don't complain, then you're gay, and if you complain too much you're gay. So everybody is gay. Convenient.

LAsub

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/20/2006 1:42:50 AM   
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Also, I find some subs would never do it in real life, but are happy to pretend (like in cyber, writing tasks, phone sex, etc.).


i wouldn't even do it then...it's a personal preference and a major turn off



Mike - Not a shot at you....just a casual observation:

The ladies here are not stupid. The psychology behind your constant forays into these types of threads, where you always infuse yourself as an enthusiastic but unwilling participant in this particular kink speaks volumes and is quite contradictory of your portrayal. If you want to change perception, I suggest a different method of participation in future ''forced bi'' threads.




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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/20/2006 1:40:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

i would sooner die than have any male come near me...there is no underlying wants here...what does exist is an overwhelming hatred of being male and placed in the same category as them.

**Edited to minimize hate mail**


Hmm, then perhaps stopping posting in threads where you have such an aversion to the topic and we'd be more inclined to believe you on some level.  It's pointless to keep posting "I hate that" in every thread about a topic you don't like.  It just perpetuates that negativity cycle that swarms around you.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/21/2006 11:51:47 AM   
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I know how you feel 100%, (although I'm like that about people in general). I really don't have any respect for my gender, seeing how most of them act stupid. I could never suck another guy, not because of homophobia, but because I refuse to be below someone who I have no respect for.

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ORIGINAL: michaelGA2

i wouldn't perform such acts, even if my life or the lives of loved ones depended on it. i know that sounds a little harsh and way out in left field, but, as i stated before, i barely tolerate being in the same proximity of other males (i.e. work environment, restaurants, other public places). to have one touch me, in any way, is unexceptable. i even have reservations about handshakes. 

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/21/2006 8:04:50 PM   
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That is extreme Michael! Men arent that bad - youre one after all?


(this statement may get me a repremand by the MODs, but here goes)

men are pigs and i dispise being one, yet changing that is not an option...

(holds out hands and waits for them to be slapped)

Hmm, and all of those years of swearing off of pork!  Damn!!  If men are pigs, let it be known ... I love porkers.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/21/2006 9:09:10 PM   
flipr


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never have been offered either, i know i would love to suck the strapon, what a better way to submit to a Mistress then paying service to her in her strapo.

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/25/2006 3:05:01 AM   
mons


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greetings
 
i do not care for doing this to any man i had many how had that thought in their head to do this to please me but i do not want to insult anyone but i find that man who ask for this are gay. now one wrote that he does this to please his mistress this is different but the ones who ask to have a man around to suck on are gay or want somehow to be able to suck and say "oh i was force sorry all but this is my opinion no harm to other
 
mons

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/25/2006 8:00:22 PM   
AcademyForSlaves


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It is not "forced" if the slave has asked for it or hinted at wanting it.

"Make me do...." is a top-from-the-bottom request.

And a "straight" man asking to be "forced" to perform a homosexual act with another man could be viewed as actually wanting to be gay or bi but avoiding admission (perhaps feeling guilt?) by conveniently placing the "blame" on the Mistress. ie-"She MADE me do it!"

Although, if the slave has NOT asked for it then forcing a homosexual act (or any other sexual act for that matter) can be seen as wrong to some, and could be viewed as rape. A very fine line and grey area in the BDSM world.

All in all an excellent question for the boards.


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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/25/2006 9:35:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mons

greetings
 
i do not care for doing this to any man i had many how had that thought in their head to do this to please me but i do not want to insult anyone but i find that man who ask for this are gay. now one wrote that he does this to please his mistress this is different but the ones who ask to have a man around to suck on are gay or want somehow to be able to suck and say "oh i was force sorry all but this is my opinion no harm to other
 
mons


I think of a gay man to be one who enjoys sex and romance with men. I define a man who has sex with men and women to be bisexual.

It seems you are saying that every man who wants to be forced to have sex with another man is feigning an interest in women and is, in fact, a closeted homosexual in denial. If so, I see it differently.

In forced bisexuality, I expect it is more the humiliation or the D/s that creates the draw rather than an erotic yearning for another man held back by inhibitions.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/26/2006 12:04:36 AM   
rob3026


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Hi Group,
This is my first post.  For the male sub to serve another male at his Mistresses order is the ultimate submission for many men.  The reason they put the forced word in is because they don't want to be looked at as a cock sucker.  But if his Mistress forced him to do it, it removes the weight or blame off of him and places it with the Mistress.  I hope that made some kind of sense.
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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/26/2006 6:43:01 AM   
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I think one can indeed want something that is forced without it being topped-from-bottom in spirit. Otherwise, the perspective that what a sub wants is not authentic submission can then be extended to submission itself. When someone wants to be forced to do something, it could be not necessarily the end activity but what the activity represents--the dynamics of dominance and submission. In the example at hand, I think it is more likely that the sub wants the D/s dynamic of being ordered to have sex with another man than that he wants to have sex with another man.

A domme once made a horrible concoction in a blender for me to drink. It had vinegar, chocolate pudding and probably a little of everything in her fridge and spice cabinet. It tasted horrible yet I would like it if she did it again. It's not because I want to taste that concoction again, but that being ordered to drink it represented to me an expression of D/s and SM.

Over time many of my BDSM interests developed due to a response to a stimulus. This stimulus was usually an activity that showed a power imbalance in a mainstream or BDSM film or story. Some activities simply resonated within me for how they showed a dynamic of dominance and submission and created in me a want to express D/s through this activity. I think is fine and common for a sub to want something that is an expression of dominance and submission.

Cheers,

Sea

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RE: forced bisexual acts - 10/26/2006 10:12:02 PM   
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Any man who is straight will have bisexual activity on his list of hard limits. If a woman tried to force it, he would leave.

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