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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 5:25:49 AM   
zenfull2


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One more thing before finally laying down and closing my eyes, Jon could you please tell me where that lifestyle forum you spoke of is located?

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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 5:36:31 AM   
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greetings zenfull....

Very good answers girl. You might make it yet. I hope you do. I would much rather hit you with a few buckets of metaphorical ice water now than you find out too late what you are really getting yourself in for and what your chances are of succeeding. It takes a woman with a lot of mental strength to be a Gorean's slave. Most women either can not bring themselves to that point, give up after a while or find themselves a soft Master they can use to be the provider of a simple and easy slavery for them.

Now I put my hard-assed, nasty Gorean persona back on. <grins>

Understand this girl. If something as mild as what I posted earlier had made you run, you should have kept going back to the soft and gentle, feel good, fuzzy wuzzy politically correct world of BDSM. We do not what you here. We certainly do not need you here. As I said, there are more females looking for Masters than men to be there Master. Actually...most of them are looking for a Mister. They want that "ONE" that they can instantly be a love slave to. Nothing but glorious sex and happy rainbow feelings while he keeps you in that perfect bondage that lets you have a lover, eventually a husband and all those gooey feelings of being exactly the slave you want and dreamed of being.

Now, imagine your self as the third slave of a Master and doing most of the cooking and cleaning after working a regular 8 hour day. You get attention and or sex when he has time, feels like it and remembers you are there. Can YOU be that slave? Is being the slave of a Gorean important enough to you that you would take that third slave's place to be one? Would you do it to learn to be a Gorean's slave from a Master you didn't love?

Honestly, you, and any girl would probably learn what it really means better in that kettle slave position than as someone's love slave. You wouldn't enjoy it. Being a slave is not about you enjoying it. It is about making the Master's life easier, better and pleasing him in whatever way HE wishes. Nothing more than that. This is why I said that most can not do it. They drop out after a few weeks or a year or two.

One last comment zenfull....with out the hard-assed teaching mode being on.

People that can train or Master you are out there. Some are much better than others. As you said, check out anyone and their claims about themselves. Then decide if that person will take you where you want to go. You may have to range pretty far afield to find someone. As I said earlier....such people are rare and we usually have about as many slaves as they want. But...if you look long and hard enough, you will find us.

be well girl....

Malkinius

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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 10:17:20 AM   
raiken


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Malkinius

Now, imagine your self as the third slave of a Master and doing most of the cooking and cleaning after working a regular 8 hour day. You get attention and or sex when he has time, feels like it and remembers you are there. Can YOU be that slave? Is being the slave of a Gorean important enough to you that you would take that third slave's place to be one? Would you do it to learn to be a Gorean's slave from a Master you didn't love?

Honestly, you, and any girl would probably learn what it really means better in that kettle slave position than as someone's love slave. You wouldn't enjoy it. Being a slave is not about you enjoying it. It is about making the Master's life easier, better and pleasing him in whatever way HE wishes. Nothing more than that. This is why I said that most can not do it. They drop out after a few weeks or a year or two.

Hello Malkinius,
 
i wish to comment on your thought. 
 
You speak of the trial by fire...as the Master black smith purifies his precious metal.  It is NOT an easy route...nor is it always sunny and bright.  There are lessons to be learned though, and some are learned in the darkest depths of a slaves soul belly.  During these trials a slave discovers who she is, and who she is not.  i believe that you are correct, in that many cannot do it, at least not for the long haul.  i trained for an entire year living as second slave, and that was tough enough without being pushed to the rank of third.  It was not in a totally Gorean home, but rather a blended home, but still the Master was fair, firm and strict.  He was strong in his discipline and unwavering in his desires, rules and expectations.  So i can only imagine how much more challenging it may have been, had his home been completely Gorean. 
 
Yet, after the year was over, i was still willing to renew the terms of the contract.  i felt fulfilled in a way that i didn't know i could feel.  i did not love this man, but i greatly respected and valued the person he was, and will always remain grateful, that he put it to me straight, and did not allow me to get away with being weak and cave into my emotions or feelings.  He taught me who i was, and made me face my fears head on.  Miraculously with his guidance, i became that much stronger, and wiser in life.  i didn't think i could do it about half way through...i began to succomb to my voice inside that said to run away...but for me, to run would have been cowardly.  He knew this, and i knew it, and i persevered through his training.  It was the hardest and best learning experience in my life as a slave. 
 
i have no regrets, only a grateful heart that a Master saw in me what i could not see in myself at the time.  It helped me decide the rest of my journey.

Thank you for sharing this thought.
 
~raiken

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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 11:24:40 AM   
Malkinius


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greetings zenfull....

quote:

ORIGINAL: zenfull2
One more thing before finally laying down and closing my eyes, Jon could you please tell me where that lifestyle forum you spoke of is located?


My real name is John...not Jon....<grins>....but I am going to answer you anyway. The yahoo group name is TheDagger. You should also look into emaiul groups such as GoreanWhispers and Gorean_Living. So the URL for them would be http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TheDagger or whichever list you want to join.

Warning...I post on all of those as well. <grins evilly>

be well....

Malkinius


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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 11:49:31 AM   
kisshou


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Malkinius

Now I put my hard-assed, nasty Gorean persona back on. <grins>


You forgot Sexy!! ;)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Malkinius
You wouldn't enjoy it. Being a slave is not about you enjoying it. It is about making the Master's life easier, better and pleasing him in whatever way HE wishes.

Malkinius



but making his life easier, better and pleasing him is what I enjoy! Not only is that what I enjoy it is what I live for!
Could a Free person begin to fathom the wild joy found in serving them.

well wishes
kisshou



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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 1:12:33 PM   
zenfull2


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*grins as she reads* It all sounds splendid, and of course if I did not have to run to go to a medical appointment about insurance I would probably post more. However, Malkinius/Jo(h)n... *cute smile* Thank you for your words, they truly made me think, and yes I believe I could do it... of course one will never really know till they have been in that position. Yet I do believe I have the strength to do it.. does that mean I wont desire to one day belong to a Master as his first? No of course not... that will always be a dream wether I get it or not is up to the Free of course. But it is something I shall always strive to reach. And while I strive, I shall enjoy every moment of my bondage.

Also, thank you for the group information Ill get to registering for them probably some time today!

Well wishes,
.zenfull.


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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 3:21:55 PM   
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Greetings zenfull,

a year ago this one never would have dreamed of being anything but first girl .
However, its funny how one changes their perspectives as they go along their path.

Now she is third on a chain, and has no regrets, only a bright future.

She has learned more the past few months with Master than the entire year.
her place teaches her much about what she can handle as she grows.Right now she is looking foward to her brand and collar and whipping into the House, she can truly count down the days.*grins*

She was a Domme to men and had owned slaves in her past, she was miserable.

none of it compares to being able to be yourself, to be free to be a slave under a strong Mans hands and power.

Love she does not worry about...she equates that to vanilla these days...Feeling a Masters control and Ownership beats the hell outta love.

altho she imagines the time will come when she will not be able to live without serving her Owner, distance and visits is hard enough but she knows she grows and is doing everything Master sets out for her to accomplish this year she is contracted before final enslavement

Point being, we stumble and fall, sometimes we go with the ones that arent right for us in our need to serve.....
but one day............

it will happen for you too

Take as good of care of yourself as you can and learn from the books and the people are here are the best as to helping and as friends. Learn your self to the max.

wishing you well

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RE: My decision - 10/10/2006 5:01:24 PM   
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Malkinius,

Did you ever think that she may have been asking Artison (Jon)

I know there are only a few real goreans so you are the only John.. hehehe

Jarl Trovald


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RE: My decision - 10/11/2006 1:07:33 AM   
Malkinius


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Tal Torvald....

quote:

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Malkinius,

Did you ever think that she may have been asking Artison (Jon)

I know there are only a few real goreans so you are the only John.. hehehe

Jarl Trovald


Actually...there are other Goreans I know with the name of John. I don't know if you would know or remember them. Some have not posted much in years or in places you are likely to read.

Be well....

Malkinius


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RE: My decision - 10/11/2006 6:18:08 PM   
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Malkinius,

I was just picking at you with a flash back to a 2 year old statement you made.  it was all in fun

Jarl Torvald


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