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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 7:21:35 AM

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this is a question about religion and/or spirituality. do you think you should share the same religious beliefs and values that your Dominant or Master holds? could this be a deal-breaker for you, or do you think it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things?
if you currently have a Dominant/Master, do the two of you share the same religion? if you are of two different belief systems, has this ever caused any problems? do you think certain belief systems are just bound for incompatibility, i.e. Christian+Pagan, Atheist+Muslim?? just a current curiousity of mine...

My faith is very importent to me and lucky for me that Daddy was already open to the idea of exploring that sect. He came from a baptist background, while i am catholic, he converted and we made our confirmation and communion together. Our journey together in following Gods plan for the roles of Husband and wife are the foundation of our happiness. I can say that if He wasn't willing to make a commitment to religion at the time we first got together i might not have made a commitment to Him. But that is because with my last partner any form of religion was a hard limit to him lol I am sure other can make consesions about religion but for me I can not.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 1:02:55 PM

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I've never asked my Master whether he believes in God......I'd be bloody shocked if I found he did though, after all this time...lol

Somehow , I'm guessing that by now, even if he did, it wouldn't mar the landscape. I'd hazard a guess that knowing what I think and express on the subject, it's unlikely that he'd be hiding a rabid religious conviction.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 1:20:27 PM

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It is not a problem for us. Master is Roman Cathloic and i am Christian they are pretty close but there are some major diferences. Sometimes Master and i talk about the differences and i find them interesting i don't agree with everything but he is not trying to convert me so i don't have to. I love Master i i don't care what reglion he is. If he did not believe in God however that would be a hard one for me.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 5:41:30 PM

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I would prefer someone whose faith was similar to my own. I was raised Baptist, but now I simply consider myself a Christian. When you think about the religious significance of holidays such as Christmas and Easter, and especially the whole Christmas holiday season, and the traditions surrounding it, I wouldn't want to be with someone (vanilla or BDSM) whose beliefs didn't jive with mine.

BTW, here's hoping everyone has a safe and happy Thanksgiving tomorrow!

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 7:03:01 PM

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I wouldn't date a Christian. Sorry. I'm Pagan with an affinity for the Hindu pantheon, and I don't want to be with anyone who would want to change that. Part of being a Christian is trying to spread the word, and I believe it's a destructive religion. NOT that all Christians on an individual basis are or have to be... I've known a few absolutely wonderful Christians. It's just not something I want any part of.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 7:29:09 PM

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My spiritual life is very important to me. That doesn't play out in religion but just as a connection and life I feel inwardly. I've explored a lot of religions and philosophies and I came to the conclusion at some point that at their heart, many of them pointed in the same direction.

That being said, it would be entirely important for me to have a partner who has their shit together "within". How they choose to act that out, whether that be through religion, philosophy or in no outward displays whatsover, isn't so important. ..Actually...after I said that, "the no outward displays" persona would actually be the most appealing choice to me.

Masters religion is "martial arts" pretty much, martial arts has foundational teachings that can be found within Buddhism and Hinduism, considering I've spent a lot of time in India, this sits pretty well with me and I can also "commmunicate" with him about subjects as I understand the fundamentals of the teachings and life path it provides.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 8:44:14 PM

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We do not share the same religion, but we do share the same basic beliefs in morality, etc.

I was raised Catholic, yet had a very liberal mom who taught me to quest for the truth in all faiths. As a result, I cannot say I am religious at all ... I look at it all more as philosophy. BUT, there are things (in my heart, in my spirit, etc) that I KNOW to be true.

I could not be with someone who challenged my basic understanding and passion for people and the world. I could not be with someone who believed opposite (which is rare - most relgions are so close).

If you are picking apart ceremony or tradition - step back and ask, why? Who cares ... Wouldn't the Supreme One, whoever that is to you, want compromise and peace and love and all of that good stuff?

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/22/2006 10:14:18 PM

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In general no way do I think two people in any relationship including M/s have to share the same religion. To me religion is a heavy and individual issue and that would be going way over the line to me for a Master to demand such a change.

Now if one or both faith is so out there in their day to day that one or both have to deal with it then oviously that is an issue, but to me, that is about compatibility and not right or wrong.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/23/2006 6:37:12 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

this is a question about religion and/or spirituality. do you think you should share the same religious beliefs and values that your Dominant or Master holds? could this be a deal-breaker for you, or do you think it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things?
if you currently have a Dominant/Master, do the two of you share the same religion? if you are of two different belief systems, has this ever caused any problems? do you think certain belief systems are just bound for incompatibility, i.e. Christian+Pagan, Atheist+Muslim?? just a current curiousity of mine...

It's very important to me to share at least similar beliefs and values due to the depth of the relationship i want and am developing with Master. i see spirituality or religious beliefs as so defining of the whole person that i wouldn't be able to reveal myself so honestly and intimately with Master if He held spiritual beliefs in conflict with mine.

Yes, it would be a deal breaker for me since my spirituality is so core to who i am. But i was aware of this while i was still free and waiting to be captured. So i didn't encourage any interest from doms who had strong religious or spiritual beliefs that conflicted with mine.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/23/2006 6:41:46 AM

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In a perfect world there is, somewhere, a Dom who is a questioning evangelical Christian, an egalitarian, yet willing to be the dominant partner, understands the difference between exegesis and eisegesis, and thinks I'm the best thing since the Reformation.

Since I haven't found him yet, I tend to look at each person's spirituality. To me this is different from their religious preferences. As long as they have a spiritual journey they are actively involved in, and will allow me to continue on mine, then I would consider a relationship with them.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/23/2006 7:08:24 AM

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I know for a certainty, that I'd have troubles in a relationship with somebody of any religion. I don't object to them, or to others believing in them... (unless they make the merest attempt at converting me, at which point they're toast

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But arguing about religion is one of my hobbies, and it'd drive us both nuts!

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/23/2006 1:12:49 PM

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lol I hear ya, ScienceBoy! I'm a Libra... cursed and blessed with seeing the other side all the time!

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/23/2006 11:21:04 PM

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Daddy and I are of the same faith, however I follow it more intently than He does. Sometimes, I wish we were more on the same page in this regard.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/24/2006 9:39:00 AM

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Not to sound sexist but I find that is usually the case, women are more inclinded to be devote to their faith and lead the men in their lives to be closer to God, higher power, <fill in the blank for you> ect.

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RE: "equally yoked" - 11/24/2006 9:45:55 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: daddysprop247

this is a question about religion and/or spirituality. do you think you should share the same religious beliefs and values that your Dominant or Master holds? could this be a deal-breaker for you, or do you think it doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things?
if you currently have a Dominant/Master, do the two of you share the same religion? if you are of two different belief systems, has this ever caused any problems? do you think certain belief systems are just bound for incompatibility, i.e. Christian+Pagan, Atheist+Muslim?? just a current curiousity of mine...

I'd say that we don't share the same religion or belief system. Mine is a combination of christianity (mainly in terms of being monotheistic and some over the very broad principles) and shamanism (for lack of a more accurate term off the top of my head - since neither pagan or wiccan are accurate descriptors). I used to describe myself as a solitary witch, nowadays I'm more of a solitary non-practicing witch.

My owner was raised a catholic initially and I would say tends to lean towards being agnostic. The way that we handle it is that in general we avoid talking about religion or spirituality. We have talked about it in the past, but really they've never been productive discussions. We both respect each others beliefs and leave it at that.

C~

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