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Tal Goreans, Tal FrankAr,
I read your post some days ago Frank and the damn thing won’t get the hell out of my head. I have read a good many of your posts throughout the boards and though I don’t know you, I have never been troubled with one of your posts, until this one. It wasn’t directed at me, but your words are tarnishing my thoughts of you as a Gorean.You say you never fail; you adapt, in reading that first off, I thought ok. He encounters a wall so he alters his course moves on…well, to me, that may be a mistake. I then pondered on the rest of your post. I agree with the Chess game analogy. I fancy the Tuchuk way of things and believe a man must have a plan. But after this point you and I are going to butt heads.
I have an FC/ wife. She has been my faithful companion for 21 years. She does attempt at times to sway or persuade me in alternate directions or tries to bargin her position. She has yet to have ever been successful where I have my mind made up. Now I do listen to her position, most of the time. She in fact is intelligent, if not she would have been kicked to the curb or been reduced to the proverbial kitchen slut moons ago. Now, I may maintain flexibility, but, it is in the end, my way. If in your life females are trying to lead you, I would assume that you are leaving room where they feel they can lead you. I assure you that if any woman were to meet me and look into my eyes she would have no desire to make such an attempt. There are many FW in my life and I can’t think of a single one that considers she is my equal.(If they did, they get the not equal, we’re different lecture) In fact whenever I have encountered a woman that might have the idea she could be, I alter my plan and the Tuchuk in me sets to teaching her whether she is aware of this or not. But in my chess game, I don’t run. I conquer! It’s a man thing. To demonstrate this point I’ll provide an example. Over the past year I have been reconditioning the thought process of a VERY liberal, independent and feisty young female that is the personal assistant to a prestigious customer of mine. A little of a year ago I told her she would make a fine kajira, she asked, “what’s that mean?” I told her, “You’re intelligent, find out.” Well she obviously she went straight to Google and when I went past the break room where she was she smirks and says, “so you think I am a slave do you?” I smiled and looked at her, my response was, “oh, hell no! But, (I moved very close to her and looked her deep in the eyes and said) you do have potential.” She shivered as one would suspect and smiled with a fidget. I then turned and walked away. I waited and as I suspected, she again approached me on this issue. Well it’s been over a year and I see her a fair amount and I have to say, I have not at all set to teaching her, I just carry myself as the Gorean that I am when around her. The last time I spoke with her she was supposed to have a book I loaned her (Nomads). She forgot it at home and I went in her office and said that is the last time you will disappoint me or I will have your ass. She looked at me and swallowed hard. Her response was a simple one….”yes Sir” Take note, she’s one of those very attractive girls that western men allow to get away with way to much, she didn’t call even her boss Sir. Well, she does now. I told her she will. Anyway, this is a long damn story and she has admitted she has interest in belonging to someone like me. (smirks) My point here is, I don’t adapt. They do. I am strong willed in all I am and do. It is expected in a Gorean. I don’t run from confrontation and to me it is a concern. I don’t let the wall change my course, I find a way to remove the wall. You see that is how a Gorean plays chess. And when more men start playing it that way we won’t have to do as the slave boy asked in another thread, live in secret. I have no bones about talking about my ideals with anyone. I have talk in depth with many men, from priests to corporate managers and all ask more and more about these philosophies. If you are Dominant as you say, No one will try and lead you anywhere, it is only when you allow room for doubt that you will be topped. I never shake my head and move on. I may shake my head, but I’ll be damned if I’m moving on away from anyone. That is surrendering to their will. There is nothing dominant about that. Sure you can say they aren’t worth your time, and they most likely aren’t. But, for my taste, they will be the one moving. Not I! Note that you are most likely alone for a reason, read the thread kisshou just started, weakness in your actions is not attractive, and your walking away is almost always seen as weakness. Just a thought maybe the next six years would be served by an excellent little slut if you commanded and demanded your will upon her. I have a new slut coming after the first of the year, a good while back, when we first started talking she asked if when she came to my home if she would be able to tell immediately if I was her master. She hasn’t even arrived and no longer is that question in her mind.
Also, it is quite possible if you drove forward like a Gorean, improved yourself, took the lead in your job, those team leading females that serve their own interests, would in effect be serving you, their new boss. If you’re in a job, and you have no chance to accomplishing this. Why the hell are you there?
I had to ask my FC if I bend my will to my mother. She laughed. She said you treasure your mother and see to her happiness, but not even your mother would dare expect you to bend your will. My mother loves to talk about the broken wooden spoons and such that not once altered her son’s mind. She calls me “the most independent bugger walking, God only knows how he turned out so well.” I guess some of us have been Gorean since birth. Now I’m not blowing my horn here, I’m referring to myself in this post, as you did, mostly because this is a reference I happen to be the authority on.
I am also not real sure why when your slaves tried to change you that you would just move on. Wouldn’t that also be just admitting you can’t train them to your standard. In effect you made a mistake in selecting them? Or in training them? Why else would they ever dream they should or could try and change you? Leave a door unlocked and someone is going to try and open it.
In closing, I have made mistakes and corrected them and made other ones, done some soul searching, then corrected and even altered my views. To error is human. To learn is and grow is even more human.
Live well,
Bull
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