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Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/8/2006 8:26:42 AM)

We interrupt this program...

quote:

ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Since when is the clitoris the only place on a persons body/in a persons life to gain pleasure from????


Oooo... I do love a lusty oral slave!


Now, back to our regularly scheduled serious broadcast...



theRose4U -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/8/2006 2:44:55 PM)

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ORIGINAL: wandersalone

In the fear that you could possibly be serious - DO NOT REMOVE SOMEONE'S CLITORIS BY YOURSELF.

In the hope that you are actually a HNG talking crap- instructions for removing your girlfriends clit -
get a sharp knife
duct tape
clear your desk of clutter
place your much treasured girlfriend aka barbie doll on your desk
tape her down and gag her
spread her lithe plastic legs and slice out a section where her vagina would be if she were real.
voila - you have de-clitted her.
Enjoy


You forgot the part where Ken and his buddies show up and hog tiehis ass, take him to jail, dress him in pink undies and sell his virginity to someone named Bubba for 3 packs of smokes.



theRose4U -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/8/2006 3:01:08 PM)

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Bubba's bitch for the next few years and responsible only for his.


I find it refreshing that around the world prison bulls are all named bubba and don't like those that harm women or children.



theRose4U -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/8/2006 3:35:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyEllen

I think a few days on his knees with humbler in place, shining ladies' shoes in the high street and begging forgiveness from every one for his pathetic existence would be as good as castration - but castration could follow on of course LOL!


Since you brought up humblers. What would the effect be of putting him in a humber and kicking his ass with pointy shoes? Would it pull his brains to their limit before his ass prolapses?



fiddlegirl -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/8/2006 11:44:51 PM)

From several posts back:

"The doctors in this country are also obligated to report signs of abuse. If you go in with black eyes, split lips or other bruises...cigarette burns, cuttings, or any of a number of other things that people in this lifestyle routinely engage in, most likely there would be some sort of police involvement brought in. "

This is actually a misunderstanding of the mandatory reporting laws.  Doctors, nurses, PTs etc. are ONLY required to report suspected abuse when the victim is a child.  With adults, it's the oppposite: professionals CAN'T call the police over an adult's bruises without express consent.  Your health care provider will probably ask questions about your injuries and urge you to report it or seek help, but they can't, legally, do anything about it themselves if you decline their help.  For adults, patient confidentiality trumps abuse prevention.

Human nature being what it is, this doesn't guarantee that you'll never ever encounter a health care worker who violates your confidentiality.  But please understand that one who does so is acting illegally and unprofessionally, and could be sued by the patient or disciplined by their respective licencing board (and not in the fun way).  It's a rogue action, not an expected one.

(Actually there are some exceptions for "dependent adults", such as the very elderly or intellectually disabled, but being a BDSM bottom/sub/slave doesn't put you in that category.  And in some places, there is also an exception for gunshot injuries, but again, that doesn't apply to us).

Cheers,
Fiddlegirl, RN



fiddlegirl -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 3:10:25 AM)

Well, of all the most extraordinary things to happen... I was wrong!  Seems that in California, Colorado, and Kansas the mandatory reporting laws also apply to adult victims of domestic violence/abuse.  Seems to be pretty controversial within the health care and victims's rights communities, too.

But, if you're in one of the other 47 states, what I said above is still true.  Your doctor can't call the cops on your behalf, so please go ahead and speak frankly to her or him.

Fiddlegirl



mons -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 3:37:24 AM)

greeting fiddlegirl

i am sorry to say but your wrong on this one i took my son i went with him a another boy jump him some years ago the boy was mad my son called him gay. when i went with him he was 18 ate time and this boy fought like a mad girl dog he bite my son numberous time all over he had scratches and bite marks and he had a black one they did not even ask if he wanted to report this they told him this was an assualt and they reported it. it is true about the childern i worked at a school for many years and i have reported people many times and did not give a damn about this. but they do report adults too even if you do not wish too , they boy had jump my son by hiding in some bushes it hurt to see him so beaten and bitten. i find when someone gets that mad over calling them gay they usually are

take care
mons



fiddlegirl -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 4:53:13 AM)

Hello Mons.  I'm sorry that this happened to your son (though I'm also sorry that homophobic bullying happened to the other boy - your last sentence wasn't intended to excuse it, was it?)

Anyway, I assume that when you say "they reported it" you're talking about a doctor or nurse.  If that's the case, then one of two things happened: either this took place in California at a time when the mandatory reporting law applied to adults (not sure when that started), or the health care worker acted illegally and unprofessionally by reporting it.  As I said, not everybody lives up to legal and professional standards all the time - and the fact that your son was just barely an adult may have made them more likely to act inappropriately.

But that doesn't change the fact that in most states (and in all of Canada, where I'm from), doctors and nurses are obliged to respect patient's confidentiality in a case like this, rather than being obliged to report, as someone stated above.

Take care, Fiddlegirl



mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 6:15:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: fiddlegirl
But that doesn't change the fact that in most states (and in all of Canada, where I'm from), doctors and nurses are obliged to respect patient's confidentiality in a case like this, rather than being obliged to report, as someone stated above.


I'm afraid that you are mistaken. Many states have mandatory reporting laws that encompass this but may be worded in such a way that the terms "Domestic Violence" or "Abuse" may not be specifically written in...such as states that must report any injury suspected to be inflicted non-intentionally or by criminal conduct..

Here is a fairly complete listing:

This summary focuses on the reporting requirements related to the
medical treatment of competent adults who are the victims of domestic violence or abuse.2 Additionally, this document focuses on statutes which require reports to law enforcement as opposed to statutes that require reports to other agencies for the purpose of collecting statistics. Please note that this document is intended for
informational purposes only and does not constitute legal advice.

LAWS THAT SPECIFICALLY REQUIRE INJURIES CAUSED BY DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE TO BE REPORTED
The law specifically requires medical personnel to report that they have treated a victim of domestic violence when the victim is a competent adult in the following states:
o California, Ca. Pen Code § 11160
o Kentucky, KRS § 209.030

LAWS WHICH MANDATE THE REPORTING OF NON-ACCIDENTAL OR
INTENTIONAL INJURIES
In certain states, medical personnel are required to report injuries caused by non-accidental or intentional means. In these states, qualifying medical professionals will have to report that they treated a patient who suffered a non-accidental or intentional injury. It is difficult to imagine a situation where injuries that are caused by domestic violence will not also be non-accidental or intentional; therefore, these statutes have the same impact as statutes that require incidents of domestic violence to be reported. Statutes that require the reporting of non-accidental or intentional injuries to law enforcement include the following:
o Alaska, Alaska Stat. 08.64.369
o California, Cal Pen Code § 11160
o Colorado, C.R.S. 12-36-135
o Florida, Fla. Stat. § 790.24
o Georgia, O.C.G.A. § 31-7-9
o Michigan, MCLS § 750.411
o Ohio, ORC Ann. 2921.22
o Pennsylvania, 18 Pa.C.S. § 5106

LAWS WHICH MANDATE THE REPORTING OF INJURIES CAUSED BY
CRIMINAL CONDUCT
In certain states, medical personnel are required to report injuries caused by criminal conduct. Domestic violence that results in injury will generally be a crime; therefore, these statutes will almost always require that injuries caused by domestic violence be reported. Statutes that require the reporting of injuries caused by criminal
conduct include the following:
o Arizona, A.R.S. § 13-3806
o California, Cal Pen Code § 11160
o Colorado, C.R.S. 12-36-135
o Hawaii, HRS § 453-14
o Idaho, Idaho Code § 39-1390
o Illinois - 20 ILCS 2630/3.2
o Iowa, Iowa Code § 147.111
o Massachusetts ALM GL ch. 112, § 12A1/2
o Nebraska, Neb. Rev. ST. 28-902
o New Hampshire, RSA § 631:6
o North Carolina, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 90-21.20
o North Dakota, N.D. Cent. Code, § 43-17-41
o Ohio, ORC Ann. 2921.22; ORC Ann. 2921.22
o Pennsylvania - 18 Pa.C.S. § 5106
o Tennessee, Tenn. Code Ann. § 38-1-101
o Utah, Utah Code Ann. 26-23a-1
o West Virginia, W. Va. Code § 61-2-27
o Wisconsin, Wis. Stat. 146.995

ADDITIONAL REPORTING STATUTES THAT MAY IMPACT COMPETENT ADULT
VICTIMS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE
Some states require certain types of injuries to be reported by medical personnel to law enforcement. If a victim of domestic violence presents with any of these injuries, medical personnel will be required to report the injury to law enforcement, unless there is an exception for domestic violence in that state. These injuries include
injuries caused by firearms, stab wounds or knife wounds, injuries caused with a deadly weapon and burns, among others. Relevant statutes include the following:

• Injuries caused by firearms
o Alaska, Alaska Stat. § 08.64.369
o Arizona, A.R.S. § 13-3806
o Arkansas, A.C.A. § 12-12-602
o California, Cal Pen Code § 11160
o Colorado, C.R.S. 12-36-135
o Connecticut, Conn. Gen. Stat. § 19a-490f
o Delaware, 24 Del. C. § 1762
o District of Columbia, D.C. Code § 7-2601
o Florida, Fla. Stat. § 790.24
o Hawaii, HRS § 453-14
o Idaho, Idaho Code § 39-1390
o Iowa, Iowa Code § 147.111
o Illinois, 20 ILCS 2630/3.2
o Indiana, Ind. Code Ann. § 35-47-7-1
o Kansas, KS § 21-4213
o Louisiana, La. R.S. § 14:403.5
o Maine, 17 AMRS § 512
o Maryland, Md. Code Ann. § 20-703
o Massachusetts, ALM GL ch. 112, § 12A.
o Michigan, MCLS § 750.411
o Minnesota, Minn. Stat. § 626.52
o Mississippi, MS § 45-9-31
o Missouri, § 578.350 R.S. Mo.
o Montana, MCA § 37-2-30
o Nevada, NRS § 629.041
o New Hampshire, RSA § 631:6
o New Jersey, N.J. Stat. § 2C:58-8
o New York, NY CLS Penal § 265.25
o North Carolina, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 90-21.20
o North Dakota, N.D. Cent. Code, § 43-17-41
o New Hampshire, RSA § 631:6
o Ohio, ORC Ann. 2921.22
o Oregon, ORS § 146.750
o Pennsylvania, 18 Pa.C.S. § 5106
o Rhode Island, R.I. Gen. Laws § 11-47-48
o South Carolina, S.C. Code Ann. § 16-3-1072
o South Dakota, S.D. Codified Law § 21-13-10
o Tennessee, Tenn. Code Ann. § 38-1-101
o Texas, Tex. Health & Safety Code § 161.041
o Utah, Utah Code § 26-23a-2
o Vermont, 13 V.S.A. § 4012
o Virginia, Va. Code Ann. § 54.1-2967.
o West Virginia, W. Va. Code § 61-2-27
o Wisconsin, Wis. Stat. §146.995

• Stab wounds or non-accidental wounds caused by a knife or sharp pointed instrument
o Alaska, Alaska Stat. § 08.64.369
o Arizona, A.R.S. § 13-3806
o Arkansas, A.C.A. § 12-12-602
o Colorado, C.R.S. 12-36-135
o Delaware, 24 Del. C. § 1762
o Hawaii, HRS § 453-14
o Indiana, Ind. Code Ann. § 35-47-7-1
o Iowa, Iowa Code § 147.111
o Kansas, KS § 21-4213
o Massachusetts, ALM GL ch. 112, § 12A.
o Michigan, MCLS § 750.411
o Mississippi, MS § 45-9-31
o Montana, MCA § 37-2-302
o Nevada, NRS § 629.041
o New Jersey, N.J. Stat. § 2C:58-8
o New York, NY CLS Penal § 265.25
o North Carolina, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 90-21.20
o North Dakota, N.D. Cent. Code, § 43-17-41
o Ohio, ORC Ann. 2921.22
o Oregon, ORS § 146.750
o South Dakota, S.D. Codified Laws § 23-13-10
o Tennessee, Tenn. Code Ann. § 38-1-101
o Utah Code Ann. 26-23a-1
o Virginia, Va. Code Ann. § 54.1-2967.
o West Virginia, W. Va. Code § 61-2-27

• Injuries caused by a weapon
o District of Columbia, D.C. Code § 7-2601
o Michigan, MCLS § 750.411
o Minnesota, Minn. Stat. § 626.52
o New Jersey, N.J. Stat. § 2C:58-8
o Utah Code Ann. 26-23a-1

• Burn injuries
o Alaska, Alaska Stat. § 08.64.369
o Delaware, 24 Del. C. § 1762
o Indiana, Ind. Code Ann. § 35-47-3
o Louisiana, La. R.S. § 14:403.4
o Massachusetts, ALM GL ch. 112, § 12A
o Minnesota, Minn. Stat. 626.52
o Nevada, NRS § 629.045
o New Jersey, N.J. Stat. § 2C:58-8
o New York, NY CLS Penal § 265.26
o Ohio, ORC Ann. 2921.22
o Wisconsin, Wis. Stat. §146.995

• Suspicious wounds
o Minnesota, Minn. Stat. 626.52



Focus50 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 1:35:19 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Actually, you could go to jail for that.

quote:

ORIGINAL: boycott2006

Is it safe to remove the clit by myself??


I live only a few hundred miles north of the OP (same State) and, assuming his question is serious, I'm surprised he wouldn't have heard of a recent court case where a Sudanese immigrant did just that - removed his young daughter's clit!  Despite his denials, he was convicted and most think he got off light with about 5 yrs non-parole.... 
 
Prisons being what they are and many cons having daughters themselves, one can only hope the perp gets a little more poetic justice inside....
 
Focus.



Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 10:50:53 PM)


  • What happens to all the excised clits?
  • Is there a black market for them?
  • Are they frozen or pickled or sun-dried?
  • Do they have mini burials for them?
  • Could they be attached to charm bracelets?
  • What about substituting them in 3 bean salads?
  • Have they ever been used to stuff green olives?
  • Could they be deployed in sex exchange operations?
  • In Mexico, are they found in the Taco Bell enclitrichos?
  • During a baby mouse shortage, could they be fed to snakes?
  • Could we resupply Sudanese clitoridectomy clinics?
  • Is there an underground market for girls who want to keep their own?
  • Could they be used as earplugs?
  • Or noseplugs?
  • If we put one under a princess' matress, would she feel it?
  • If we planted them, could we grow a beanstalk?
  • Could Cub Scouts build their own little men in boats with them?
  • Could Carl Rove create a presidential brain with one?
  • Do they cause global warming?
  • Could they be stockpiled as WMD?
  • Could the be grafted in case of a bris mishap?
  • Do you know of any good pink nub recipes?


Enquiring minds want to know.



Aileen68 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 11:23:01 PM)

Can you sell em on Ebay?



Aileen68 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 11:24:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Petruchio
  • Or noseplugs?



Think of how many people would be picking their noses.



Kalli71 -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/9/2006 11:35:46 PM)

Slice off your pecker first and bleed to death you idiot.



mistoferin -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/10/2006 5:39:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Petruchio
  • What happens to all the excised clits?
  • Is there a black market for them?
  • Are they frozen or pickled or sun-dried?
  • Do they have mini burials for them?
  • Could they be attached to charm bracelets?
  • What about substituting them in 3 bean salads?
  • Have they ever been used to stuff green olives?
  • Could they be deployed in sex exchange operations?
  • In Mexico, are they found in the Taco Bell enclitrichos?
  • During a baby mouse shortage, could they be fed to snakes?
  • Could we resupply Sudanese clitoridectomy clinics?
  • Is there an underground market for girls who want to keep their own?
  • Could they be used as earplugs?
  • Or noseplugs?
  • If we put one under a princess' matress, would she feel it?
  • If we planted them, could we grow a beanstalk?
  • Could Cub Scouts build their own little men in boats with them?
  • Could Carl Rove create a presidential brain with one?
  • Do they cause global warming?
  • Could they be stockpiled as WMD?
  • Could the be grafted in case of a bris mishap?
  • Do you know of any good pink nub recipes?



Enquiring minds want to know.



I don't know for sure about any of that stuff....nor do I know about you but I am officially worried after this post!!! Actually, I hear that if you put them under your pillow the Clit Fairy comes and takes them and leaves you a shiny new quarter.[:D]



LadyEllen -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/10/2006 8:22:14 AM)

In SRS (sex reassignment surgery) there is a technique used which grafts the sensitive area of the penis into place as a clitoris. For this to work, the surgeon has to maintain the nerve endings and connections in the penis, during the surgery.

Given this, then it should be possible by surgery to leave the penis itself in place, but to desensitize it by severing the nerve connections to it, thus removing the penile sensations associated with male orgasm, and likely rendering the male desensitized to sexual enjoyment at all.

If the idea of removing the clitoris is to remove the temptation to stray and thereby violating the law of whatever god might be offended by the enjoyment of his gifts, then surely the males who follow that god, in the furtherance of their adherence to his will and to avoid the temptation to stray and offend his commandments, should readily and willingly undertake such a procedure to make them clean and fit before their lord as they prefer their women to be?

Funny though. There dont seem to be any takers for this. I would wager than even those claiming themselves to be most devoted and single mindedly focussed on virtue, Al Quaeda for example, would shrink from this procedure. However, it seems that so often it is we who are the instruments of this god's will, and I should therefore think it only right and proper that we assist and enable in the promotion of greater virtue for such people.

Or we could just chop their bollocks off.

E



darkbigdaddy -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/10/2006 10:06:24 AM)

No, you are not qualified. I doubt you can really be serious.



Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/10/2006 5:18:44 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mistoferin

I hear that if you put them under your pillow the Clit Fairy comes and takes them and leaves you a shiny new quarter.[:D]


(laughing) Personally, I'd rather donate a quarter to have a shiny new clit to toy with.



Petruchio -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/10/2006 5:24:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

Can you sell em on Ebay?

Or noseplugs.
Think of how many people would be picking their noses.


(laughing way too hard)

You and mistoferin are as seriously bent as I.



mons -> RE: removal of clitoris (12/11/2006 3:45:47 AM)

greetings fiddlegirl

I see my last sentence made you think i thought nothing of my son calling him gay? You are so wrong and to throw that in in such a way that you lost control and were mad at me or my son. I rasie my son along with my twin i knew two my  gay male friends who came to my home but later both passed on from aids. Now how dare you assume and we all have an ass but we may not be smart. you should had ask me what did i thought of what happen? teens call each so many names but that is one my son learn you do not throw around at anyone. did i think it was ok hell no why would you assume this. i do not know you but i would never think that your one way or other it would not be right.
now it is a known study that many males who are gay are the ones who will kill a gay or beat them senseless just for being gay and when you turn to say, why do you hate them so. many time they are closet gay male that is my thought on that. fear is another thing too. this young man went crazy he waited 30 mintue until my son was not even thinking of there words they had and he try he best to main my son and tried to take his eye out this is not normal at all i work at a school and i seen fight. this was  more then 6 years ago. my son was a child when my two friend would come by he like them. also ask it help and stops a mess. i do not want this i do love to talk on here if you ever see my reply if something does not look right just ask me, and i will answer that is all. i do hope this clear it up for you and i do felt i need to explain i like to do this when i have a person assume things

now warm wishes and lets let it lay life is stressful enough

take care mons



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