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RE: off line on line - 1/9/2007 5:54:44 AM   
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Greeting ardelle,

Very insightful, good post.

Liz

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RE: off line on line - 1/9/2007 6:37:18 AM   
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i guess Mistress, but i still can not understand it, the only times in my life i lie is somtimes telling the extremly sensitive girlfrind of one of my frinds that yes ofcourse her dress is pretty when she asks even if i dont like it, i make this little white lie not to harm her, i know i should not do that, but i hate hurting pepole. Even if i dont condone it i can understand lying to gain somthing, but what would somone gain by saying they are somone they are not online. i mean i they gain praise that way the prise would be for the fiction they have woevn around themself and not for them. And besides it hurts pepole when they do that, and it makes internett alot mutch worth for everyone else.


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RE: off line on line - 1/9/2007 9:00:54 PM   
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greetings ardelle....

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ORIGINAL: ardelle

Greetings Mistress

it would indeed be wonderful if every person behind the pixels on the screen were just as sincere as the one reaching out; however, many have come to realize that the INTERNET gives them a special bonus. The shield of anonymity, and a reason to be less than honest while behind that shield.

it is sometimes hard to remember that while one adheres to a code of common decency, not all are of the same code. It is a sad realization, but one that is there none-the-less.


There are a few people who really are pretty much what you read is what you get. No one is 100% the same online as offline. I am happy when someone is in the 90% range. There is a trend I have seen in the last few years for Goreans to use their real names when they post online. Some don't even have a different screen name or not much of one. I noticed after a few years of posting to Gorean email lists that my real name had been on each and every one of them. At that point, why should I change my habit? If someone really wants to find me, they can.

The problem is that too many people start off with lies, then make more lies to cover them up. After that, they are afraid to admit they lied so they do other things as well to cover it up. It really is much easier and much much better to just admit what you did and take your lumps and get past it. The gain will be worth the loss of a few fair weather friends.

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RE: off line on line - 1/9/2007 9:51:41 PM   
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Greetings Master
 
You are very correct in that most do start off online with lies and then find themselves unable to come back to being truthful. i have had both the misfortune and the fortune to meet those in both real life and online who fall into both areas.

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RE: off line on line - 1/10/2007 10:17:05 AM   
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This happend around fall last year;


I was hanging out in an Danish BDSM chat that I had been a regular in for a long time, before I found out that that "scene" wasn't whom and what i was and was looking for, when I one night ran into an old face under another nick ( it was something in her profile text that light up the lightbulb of recognision ).

I then PM'ed her to find out if she was whom I had  expected, and the answer came back as an affirmative, and we started to talk. This female was or is not Gorean interested, and neither did I anywhere during my conversation mention any specific about her in relation to be out for anything other than haveing an talk for some catching up and nothing else.

We went over what had happened through the years ( was 2-3+ years since I had talked with her ), and found out that she had been through a heavy case of substance abuse with the bottle and some kind of drugs too, haveing a child which got adopted by a foster family. And can't remember who asked for the  number, but we went through with that and she left.

A week or so later, I called her to hear how she was doing, we talked again for some time, going into depth what she had went though, what she did and how she had gotten past all that shit. I had met her before at some social gathering where she was so beyond anything in the direction of conversation from being in a drunken stupor. I didn't talk with her about anything in the direction about wanting to own her, Gor or that there should be anything between us in a sexual direction, all was kept clean.

She then asked me if we couldn't met for a cop of coffee somewhere, and I agreed, saying that that wouldn't hurt and it would be fun seeing her again. So she told me a place of her choice and a time that fitted her, I didn't have any objections to any of it, as I just wanted to see her and drink a good cup of java.

The day came and I went to the place in question, and stood waiting there for like 5 min. ( I had arrived there 15 minuts before as I really don't like to be late to any appointments at all ), she was nowhere. "Aha!" I then thought " she might be inside, as she too could have gotten earlier than me", so I went inside to take alook, no show of her there either. So I waited outside for 45 minutes, with her not showing at all, a VERY clear indication of being stood up if there's any. ;O)

I then basicly fucked it, and went to visit some bookstores and enjoy the rest of the day since I was in town, I might as well make the most of i, and did.

Later that afternoon I returned home and switched on the PC, and flicked a bit around  for awhile untill I got to the chatsite, I looged in and, funny, there was a mail from her, saying that she was not the kind of girl that I was looking for ( never said that I was in the first place at any time to her ) and that she had had her doubts about meeting me.

I replied to her that I wasn't interested in her in anyway other than haveing coffee with her, and talk, and the notion of wanting her as a collared female, had never crossed my mind and still don't, and that in the end, sometimes, a meeting for a cop of coffee is just that, and nothing else.

Haven't spoken to her since......


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RE: off line on line - 1/10/2007 10:31:31 AM   
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Master that reminds me of a comic strip of the comic book Nemi, i dont know if they have it in Denmark, it is Norweegian, well anyway the phone rings and this goth girl picks up, it is a friend asking her out for coffe. Nemi think to herself coffe =beer=going whit him home=messed up get laied hair tomowrrow and so she answers him, no sorry i cantthis week, i have my period. Men do this to, but we women are experts Master in reading somthing into a simple coffe visit or a single letter to mean somthing completly different.

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RE: off line on line - 1/10/2007 10:35:08 AM   
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quote:

There are a few people who really are pretty much what you read is what you get. No one is 100% the same online as offline. I am happy when someone is in the 90% range.


People are never 100% what they are online because you made some of it up.  A text only medium is too "narrow" to get a full impression of someone.  Some of what you get is just based on your reaction to their words, and has more to do with you than it does with them.

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RE: off line on line - 1/10/2007 10:39:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: nephandi

Master that reminds me of a comic strip of the comic book Nemi, i dont know if they have it in Denmark, it is Norweegian, well anyway the phone rings and this goth girl picks up, it is a friend asking her out for coffe. Nemi think to herself coffe =beer=going whit him home=messed up get laied hair tomowrrow and so she answers him, no sorry i cantthis week, i have my period. Men do this to, but we women are experts Master in reading somthing into a simple coffe visit or a single letter to mean somthing completly different.




I wasn't going to meet her for or as anything other than me going for a mug of java, and all there was in it from my side, nothing else. I didn't lead her on in my conversations with the female, put up any reguards of my expectations to her other than honor our agreement or in anyway try to manipulate her into doing anything at all.

All that I was there for was I that wanted to meet her, on her own accord as she was the one that set it up, and drink coffe and talk.  ;O)


Be well

  Camerius




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