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How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 5:31:28 AM

ygraine

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Hello everyone.
Orions post regarding manners and his journey gave me pause. I think we are all on a journey of sorts, in different stages, in different mind sets. I looked back at the posts in this forum and found something similar from about two years ago, but not too many replies so I am going to try this and see if we get some reponses. I imagine the stories are very different from one another, and I hope to learn from all of them.
For me, I have always been at least a defferential woman, needing in some unconcious way to be part of natural order, but I supressed that for years as I took a path of feminism. In retrospect, I probably had to do that given the work environment I was in and the people I was with. Survival and all that.
Flash forward to messing around with the computer and finding a room in adult chat that said "Jagged Dagger Tavern". I thought....Cool! A bar! I can do this! So I went in to the Dagger and watched for a bit. Mercifully they let me. I watched the beauty of the slaves and the intersting conversations of the Free and I was mesmerized. I decided I could be as enticing as the slaves in the room, so I "became" a slave. Put the little _ in front of my name and everything. I am embarassed to say, but I think I must, that I called myself ygraine because in the movie "Excalibur" she did a really hot dance and had all these men in a lustful fury. I knew the history and legends of King Arthur but wow that was one HOT dance!
So, I became a slave. I danced, I served prettily, I was witty and erudite and gave pretty good cyber if I do say so myself. I had a hot body, a sweet ass, pert breasts(none of which I really have, btw), and wow was I kajira!
NOT.
I also had a mouth on me that wouldn't quit. I was not afraid to say stupid things to Free that I thought were just losers, in my not-so-humble opinion. I was not a very good slave.
Despite that, I met several men who were willing to talk to me and help me along the journey. I also met many wonderful women who taught me the meaning of submission in the Gorean Free woman sense. I also met incredible slaves who showed me the right thing to do without being in my face about it. Those people were all so influential in my growth and change.
In time, I realized that absolute surrender was never going to be something I could do unless I took a completely seperate journey. After much soul searching I left "slavery" behind. (I put it in quotes because I don't think in retrospect I was a slave anyway). At first I thought, wow I am home free. I can say and do what I want. Boy was I in for a surprise.
The FW journey in many ways has been a lot more difficult. I will post on this later.
So my questionss..how did you find Gor? What has been your journey so far? Was it finding Gor that made you stronger or were you like that all along? What chord did it strike within you?
Yeah Yeah questions questions.
thank you!
Y

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 5:46:53 AM

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Greetings Mistress

it was Master who introduced me to the exquisite beauty that could be attained through surrender. He was a man of such strength and compassion that one such as i could do no other. The journey itself has never been easy; not for myself. i am a proud person and the letting go of that pride brought many tears of frustration and pain. It has often been a struggle for me, and one that i fear will always be there. i do think that my journey so far has made me stronger. My service to him has brought a pride of a different kind, one that allows me to be what nature intended. There is no greater a peace than knowing that the smile on the face of an owner is there because one pleased them; the first time i saw that smile on Master's face, i knew i had found my home.

thank you for bringing back some wonderful memories

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 6:08:57 AM

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How to start? I am writing a book and have this same problem there. To make it short, I grew up pretty rough. I was raised in a military family until I was 8, the first 6 years of my life being in Europe. Then at the age of 8 my Dad retired and we moved to Alabama for a year with family and then to Atlanta GA when I was 9. At age 11 we hit on some very rough times and we moved into government assisted housing while my Dad handled his problems. You either grew tough or stayed in your house in this area. Many things occured and I grew up a very angry young Man. This deep anger stayed with me until I was about 27, and then I divorced and felt like I had failed my family. Losing my kids pushed me further and I became down right seething with anger and hatred. For the next year I was pretty much a terror to anyone that irritated me. During this time I discovered the M/s relationships and BDSM. I started exploring many forms of spirituality and philosophy because I was not happy. I soon learned that the anger was at myself and only I could change that. Over the next decade I read alot and observed the world and life. I learned more from observing the world than I ever did from reading though. During this time I moved away from the BDSM lifestyle because of several reasons. I was still attracted to and involved in M/s relationships and very light BDSM as bedroom play. I also developed a code that I started to live by and adopted a philosophy I called Tomology (my first name is Tom). About a year ago I met someone who introduced me to Gor and have been studing it since. Much of it seems natural to me but there are some very subtle messages in the books that I still work at digging out. I am not finished with a complete reading of them and wish to go back and start at the beginnning, which I will do.

So there is my brief summation of how I came to be on my current path.

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 6:23:56 AM

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i am not Gorean though i have learned mutch from that lifestyle. it begun when i heard the name Gorean here on collarme, out of curisity i asked what it was, i learned a little of what it was aboute and thinked no more of it, i did think the lifestyle held little for me. However i heard of the books the lifestyle was made of, and that the pepole in the books were imortal, well unaging, i love stories of unaging pepole and old Sifi in genereal so i got myself a few of the books. However when i read them a curious thing happen, i started to care aboute my look, became more femenine, and slowly warmed to its ideas, i then becon to talk whit you pepole here at Collarme Gorean forum and find i adopt more and more of the lifestyle.

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 9:38:09 AM

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Greetings

A lifetime ago I was on this neat new (to me) thing called IRC chat on Mirc. I saw this tiny channel sitting there with something about Gor in it’s topic. Gor, hummm I remember that, it was these books I read in high school. Humm they called this channel a tavern I just have to check this out. I did. I never left, even though over the years I have tried twice (and failed).

See this humble tavern in the middle of no where Dal net made my jaw drop. Elements of those books came flying back and started my journey of education on what this whole Gorean thing was about. Some of the best authors doing the most comprehensive work on this Gorean thing were all part of this channel. It was often belittled, called to harsh, to outspoken, it was copied a million times over, but it was my home. I loved it.

In about a year I came to be owned by a man, but that relationship ended in just a few short years. It was an experience I am truly blessed to have had, because I learned so much about myself in the journey. I also took every waking moment I could in finding all of the books, diving into them and really researching. I had found that my best education was actually talking with other Goreans, chat forums, elists ect are still one of my favorite means of education. I found the only wrong question is the one not asked, and the only wrong answer is the one your to pig headed to at least think about.

In time I by chance met another man who put all of my beliefs to the ultimate test. The most critical one was, can I simply be me, or must I wear the slave label to get what I have been taught and practiced over the years. What has those years of service from my knees taught me? Obviously I picked that man over my own pursuit of the label slave. A choice I don’t happen to regret or take very lightly. Perhaps it is the ultimate test of my convictions and true inner beliefs, or maybe I am just off my rocker. What I do know, is some 11 years later, over many bumps, twists and turns I am still here, stronger then ever in my convictions.

Jahna

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 9:51:25 AM

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I don't think I have quite earned the right to call myself Gorean, nevertheless, I'm going to do just that.

I've had an armchair interest in BDSM for many years. Old, tired story. Sometimes, Gor would come up, but I never gave it much notice. I think I knew I wasn't ready yet, so I simlply kept it at the back of my mind, waiting.

A short time ago I decided to get involved with my local BDSM community. The first night, a person there suggested I read the Gor novels. I started doing so and I was hooked. I mean HOOKED.

You know that feeling, when something inside you just creeps up inside your head and whipers into your ear "this is what you've been looking for"?

Well, it did to me. It feels natural, and it feels right. It felt like suddenly, all the things that had puzzled me about my own nature had been explained at once.

Things that I had suppressed for a lifetime now had a reason to exist, because they didn't before, not in our society. And supressed they have been. Up to the point where I must now struggle to recover that which flows naturally, if this makes any sense.

Whenever I talk to someone about all the deceit and lack of honor that exists out there, all the things people should do to better themselves, but don't, all those times I hear "Welcome to the real world."

Apparently, I'm as puzzling to them as they are to me, and this includes the BDSM folk, bless them, who live in the real world.

Well, I can live in the real world, but I don't have to allow it to define me. For all that it's worth, I am Gorean.

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 12:11:10 PM

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Greetings Master's
Greetings Mistress's
Greetings those bound by chains,

I was raised in a D/s style home, where my mother stated my father was the Master of the house. Now Im not sure it if was anything beyond the times and the fact that my parents were from the south in the heart of the bible belt. However my upbringing taught me that females were to be submissive to Men, as it was a natural order.

As I began to mature I realized that without control I felt lost and alone, with out praise for service I was empty. I found people that were involved in BDSM however did I really have to be beat to express my submission and servitude? I was happy to serve but felt degraded some how but could not place a finger on it.

I like others happened onto a place on the Net that was called Gor. WOW, I could be my submissive self and blossom, without the physical torture. I began to explore and it became plain as the words on your screen as you read, "this" was what was calling me. A life of surrender and servitude without the physical torture. I began to learn and learn and felt at one with who I was. heck there were girls just like me out there and they were called kajira. I am happy and proud to be umong them and greatful for the guidence and learning I've recieved at the hands of Goreans to complete my life.

Thank You for allowing me this voice,

in the life,
cora

Post Script: I found a saying the other day that has stuck with me and wish to share it, it reads like this.....The shortest distance between a problem and a solution is the distance between your knees and the floor.

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 1:17:21 PM

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Greetings Masters,
Greetings Mistresses,
Greetings fellow slaves,

Hmmmm where to begin. I have always been a submissive person. I did not recognize this until I grew up. As a child I was always the underdog and picked on. I was really lonely and felt isolated and to myself. Unbeknowest to me I was a submissive and would not recognize this until I was a adult.

As a adult I grew up and joined the United States Army and lead a great life. I thrived well being told what to do. And how to do it. My first time being under a dominate role of another person. Basic training was a breeze for me as was AIT. I finished my 6 years of enlistment then went home.

I have been married twice. Both of my husbands were very abusive and did not live up to being the Man in the family I was the one in the family that constantly had to wear the pants. How I hated it with a purple passion. My first marriage was arranged by my parents. It ended rather quickly after the first year. My second marriage was based on the fact I loved my Husband. So it was based on love. Boy was I wrong. But needless to say it lasted longer than the first it ended after 4 years and the birth of my daughter. By this time I had known I was a slave for 6 years.

Once my marriages ended and I placed my Son and daughter with my parents so they could attend private school I started pursing my life as a slave. The introduction to being a slave period started before my second marriage ended. I was introduced to it by My cousin Anna and her husband Dale. Great People I thank them for having saved me. (No we did not do things together. That would be incest.) My cousin basically introduced me to the D/s and TPE Concepts. Yes D/s and TPE I had not yet found Gor.

Unlike most People that find out about Gor on-line I was introduced to go off-line rather than online, I didn't have a computer at the time yet. This is very rare. Anyways one evening when I was feeling particularly alone, (Being a slave or dominate can be a very isolating issue when around vanilla's.) I went to Baton Rouge to a local Munch and well a very particular couple was there. They seemed to themselves and they seemed out of place and awkward. Being the social creature I have become I walked up to them and started talking to them. As it turned out they were a Master/slave gorean couple. I became enthralled with them. We sat and talked and talked. At this point I was unowned and still learning. Well as we talked I learned I was more gorean in concepts than anything else. Before the Master left he gave me his card and told me to call if I had questions and needed help training. Thus this was my introduction to Gor.

Well time has flown by. As you guessed I chose to become a gorean kajira. The couple I ran into was very kind to me and helped me train. I have only been owned twice in my life though I have met other gorean Masters in my time I have only ever excepted two gorean collars in my life. Hopefully the one I am in now will be my last. The Master I am with now found me on gorean personals. We are now approaching our one year anniversary. And as the saying goes, "The rest is history."

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 2:37:51 PM

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Greetings.

In answer to the question: I went where told NOT to go.

I probably will stand alone on this, but I don't feel a person becomes gorean, it is either there, or it isn't. Just lying beneath the surface waiting to be released, perhaps, but it is not something (personal opinion), one can become such as a doctor or lawyer.

Luck, fate or devine intervention depending on your belief, steps in to help us help ourselves, but that would mean we had it inside to begin with.

Like many who have responded, I started with online and in some um...interesting places. It wasn't until I found a group of people that were doing their best to take things offline, did I begin to realize nothing in my life would ever be the same.

At least twice I have pulled away and just as many times I have failed to leave. What started out as words on a screen, has grown to become a part of my everyday world. My introduction to gor happened while trying to fill a void left by the passing of a man I served and loved for 6 years. This was around 1995 and I was clueless about computers. "Go online, it's a safe way to meet others"...so I tried. After locating a bdsm chatroom where the women ran amok, mouthing off and daring the men to take control, a man and his slave came in. Instantly I was drawn to them and asked everyone who they were...whispered tones saying "leave them alone, they're gorean" was all I got.

Books? When I first heard of the books I was thinking some kind of college course must be what they were talking about. When I was finally set straight and located a few books I then started looking for gorean chatrooms, having no idea how to find people otherwise. For those here who remember, hows this for a blast from the past...Braks, Tarns Pleasure Pools, City of Turia, GTI, to list a few.

I was indeed lucky to have a friend tell me of a place where they just talked, no role play of any kind. There I met people who were taking this life seriously, oh yes, and also my husband :)

So, in response, I found this way of life because I didn't listen to others and I went with my heart.

Lisa

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 6:19:12 PM

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I believe that I have stated this before, but I came to Gor because of my kajira. We had done some BDSM play in the past, and at one point, strangly in the pool, I told her she was my slave. A few days later, she led me here, and to the Gor books. That was a year in a half ago, and I have not looked back.

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 9:38:40 PM

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Tal Y-ly one,

I woke up in the middle of a field, I was near what appeared to be a crashed space ship, I slowly investigated my surroundings and then entered the damaged vessel, I was parched and in need of food. I explored what seemed to be cabinets and drawers through the vessel, I found nothing, but on a large table I spotted a smal document, a bail receipt. Its seems some fellow needed Shreve had posted my bail. Puzzled and unaware of my exact location, I thought to myself if I don't get back he's out the fourteen dollars and seventy-two cents. I hope he didn't have to morgage his trailer. I walk back to the enterance to the spacecraft and there stands an obnoxious looking chap, balding, had a damn near Canadian accent, he wore a pair of Bermuda shorts and a t-shirt that said, (Umbrella area, Tarns overhead!) I shrugged at the advice and then he spoke, " Wake the hell up, we both need out of this nightmare!!!!!!!!!! "

Ok, my stories aren't as good as Hups, but I get at least a "D" for effort right. Just think if I don't get a passing grade I'll have to keep taking the class.

Actually I just not to long ago told how I found my way to the wild and wooly ways of Gor. I don't remember the thread, but surely we have a slave girl or two around here that if you have a need to read such foolishness, they could scan the past threads and locate the scribble of an old foo.......wait, that's Hup. First I'n doing his job, then I'm claiming to be him.

Have a great night good people of the third rock,

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/9/2007 9:44:13 PM

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Tal and greetings all.....

My tale is a simple one. I found Assassins for sale in my college bookstore. I bought and read it. I went back and found the rest that they had and bought and read and reread them. Raiders was the new book that year as I recall. After that I bought the books when I could and could find them. That got me to the Jason books when I stopped finding them in the local bookstores. I read a couple of others I found in my library. No...that did not make me Gorean. I just like the books. I reread some of them from time to time in the years after that. In 1999 I found, by accident, a reference to a Gorean web site. I followed the link and then went through all of its links and links out from there. A couple of months later I got an IRC client and made my way online into that tavern that Jahna mentioned. <grins> That is where I found out that it was more than an online game or role play. That people could live according to the precepts of the books that had, at that point, been gathering dust on my bookshelf for a decade. (I am not joking about either the dust or the decade. <grins>)

I do disagree with the people who say you can not become Gorean. If that were true, sinners could not become saints....people could not change for the better or the worse. I do not believe that being Gorean is a Calvanstic predestination. Perhaps it is because my role models for Goreans had set high standards that I have them now. Perhaps it is because I knew that to change enough to be what I should have been, my goals must be much higher than that.

Seven plus years later and what feels like a couple of man-years reading, reasearching, writing and discussing and arguing about things Gorean later, I am even more convinced that this path is the one for me. So...the answer is through lots of effort and hard work and a great desire.

Be well....

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RE: How the heck did I become Gorean? - 1/10/2007 4:20:26 AM

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Greetings All,

This girl was a Domme, a couple of years ago,at least that is what her male subbie told her

. He thought this very vanilla girl(who had a wild side a country mile wide)and was fiercely independant,would be great at chaining and whipping.
So eventually she figured out she did it to please him and all the while she had been reading of Gor on sites and in lists and wondering why the heck she wasn't happy with her man????
She soon found if she wasnt swinging that flogger he had no use for her and she treid with another male subbie...same thing.
they called the shots and if she was a good lil girl and cooperated ...they played....
well hells bells you start throwing in her catholic beliefs from childhood and the pre feminist generation(for a few years anyway) and Gor started making more and more sense to her..
so she fumbled alot and still does but her Master is the bestest and one day she'll get the hang of it because she's a stubborn thing and it pleases Master to keep her.
so she learns (she hopes/she'll be told when she doesnt)and struggles and hopefully grows.
This is the only time her life has made sense to her

because she hates wearing the pants and running the show

May she wish you all well

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