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Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 3:57:48 PM

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Is it really too much to ask a new Master for HIV/Hep C testing before a sexual relationship starts? i, at one point, was talking to a Master that was tring to make me trust His word on it. For me, that just is not enough. Even though i may love a Master with every part of me, i know i would not trust him or anyone, to hold a gun to my head with one bullet in the chamber, spin, then pull the trigger.

RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:01:10 PM

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I feel if they wont get the test they jave something to hide

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:01:24 PM

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In my opinion it is not too much to ask for anyone, even a vanilla partner, to have a test like that before starting something sexual. I have been tested, and I am very willing to do so again if need be. Some people take the suggestion as an insult, others beleve they should be able to decide fi they get it or not. Thats fine, but when it comes to me, I say better safe than sorry. If it is a concen, and you are so sure you are clean, then go get the test and prove it. No harm no foul, after all.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:03:20 PM

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Yup...just how I feel. That person may or may not be hiding anything, but it would make me wonder if he point blank refused.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:07:33 PM

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No I don't think if your relationship has not reached a sexual point to ask would be wrong.
I would think the relationship must be relatively new in R/t so I'm not sure if this guy IS already your Master or is someone courting you.
If he's just courting you and is not your Master you have the same right as any human to say you require anything you need to have a healthy relationship.
I personally made my both my Sir's get tested before we could have unprotected sex or fluid exchanges PERIOD!!
Being they knew this was a hard limit before I submitted to the for them to act like that's not a submissive's respectful position would be preposterous and would make me not trust him one bit.
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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:29:23 PM

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Back when I still considered myself a submissive I asked a potential Dom/playmate to get tested, I had recently gotten tested so I felt it was a reasonable request. He didn't think so, he said he didn't like subs that topped from the bottom. Needless to say I didn't bother with him. A month later I found out that a friend that had played with him was positive for genital herpes.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:40:19 PM

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No it is not to much to ask anyone if they would get an HIV/test or any other sexually transmitted disease test. I believe you are only protecting yourself and there is nothing wrong with that.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 4:49:11 PM

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No, that is not too much to ask. I believe asking you to "trust His word on it" is too much to ask about a subject with such a serious consequences.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:19:11 PM

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I would question any motives as to why they would say no to the testing..

my owner and i went in together for the full line up of testing a month before my collaring and before becoming fluid bonded.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:21:45 PM

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Nothing is too much to ask of someone.

But you must accept their answer and decide whether you will continue down that path with them or not.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:25:44 PM

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I agree ... there is No reason that they should get insulted before geting STD tested
Men are great carriers since most symptoms don't show up with them

but if a new sub wanted Me to get tested I would Not think it was topping from the bottom I would think they were a smart sub ...

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:25:54 PM

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We both took these tests, and others, before we were intimate with one another without protection. It is wonderful to know that you and your partner will not infect each other with something potentially life threatening, if not at least embarassing.

I do not think this is something a submissive should have to insist on, common sense would dictate that the dom would want you and he both checked to protect not only you, but himself

I would make an appointment for my own screeening and ask him if he wants to be screened at the same time as you. I would treat it as an expectation that you have, not as if he is doing you a favor, because mutual testing is for mutual benefit

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:31:20 PM

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If it wasn't insisted on by him, I would think he was not overly concerned about his health or mine. That doesn't mean he has to bring it up, but if he was hesitant about being tested when I brought up and pulled the 'You don't trust me card' I'd agree that I didn't trust him and stop communication.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/9/2007 5:33:15 PM

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No it is not too much to ask in today's world.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 6:22:12 AM

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Once tested and found negative, what would stop anyone from having unprotected sex afterwards with a person who is infected? Then, transmitting a disease to you? I find one-time testing before initial sexual contact can be a false sense of security for that reason. Why do people hesitate to practice safer sex all the time?

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 6:59:09 AM

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He enters, dips His lid,

Well said LeatherBentOne!

For me, I am tested annually or sooner for own sakes, but here in Australia we don't get a written results card to show to our partner, I suppose the Dr could handwrite the results but hell, it's all open to forgery!

For me it all comes down to safe sex until a 'chosen one' is asked to submit to a test, in which case I will arrange one for myself too. Yes in the meantime there may be some fluid exchange via saliva but I consider the risks so low here (and a good wash immediately afterwards) to worry about. (Don't bother quoting urban myths- my safety regime puts me more at risk crossing the road etc)

There are far more common stds to worry about than HIV, eg warts, that begs question to me about the ethics of anyone should they consider 'unsafe sex' prior to a full testing.

Whatever way one goes- it's our body we put at risk, and our body we must feel we are protecting- Talk about ethics is too cheap and idiotic to trust. Response and time reveals the true ethics of another before I feel safe entrusting my life to a sub or another. I certainly expect a sub to consider the same or I wipe them.

Go for it 'your object', you may be 'my object' but it's your life you entrust to me in giving your body.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 8:18:23 AM

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this is something that Master and i have talked about. He is making an appointment for a full check up and blood tests done. i am making an appointment here with my ob/gyn and here they do the tests every year. He has told me that He will bring His results with Him if i want to see them. i work in a hospital so yes getting these test done is a good and safe thing to do. so i would have to say no it is not to much to ask a Dominant to get tested.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 8:37:39 AM

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I did not ask my Master to get tested nor did he ask me (i do evey year via my annual ob/gyn checkups but i have to ask). Maybe i wa a bit naive but i just knew i could trust my Master when he said he was clean. Since we are not with anyone else we don't have to worry about getting anything from each other. If you are not sure about a potional sexual partner it is a good idea to ask them to get tested.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 9:08:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: littleone35

I did not ask my Master to get tested nor did he ask me (i do evey year via my annual ob/gyn checkups but i have to ask). Maybe i wa a bit naive but i just knew i could trust my Master when he said he was clean. Since we are not with anyone else we don't have to worry about getting anything from each other. If you are not sure about a potional sexual partner it is a good idea to ask them to get tested.

Matt's littleone

You can be certain of each other, but who knows what the people you have been with were up to? I cannot tell you how many diseases "monogamous" couples spread. It is not about trust, unless both of you have never had sex with another living soul, the possibility exists. Perhaps both of you were tesed 6 months after your last relationship ended, if not, no you do not "know".

Here is a chart describing what I mean
http://www.pregnancyhelp.com/index.cfm/method/content.190F7B1A-BD49-4856-968105E8EB9A69EE

That is fine that you choose to take chances based upon romantic notions, there is nothing romantic about an HIV positive result.

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RE: Is it really too much to ask a Master? - 1/10/2007 10:31:26 AM

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Master Archer and I are fluid bonded (note: that is not the same as monogamous).

We both get tested annually. Neither of us would have unprotected sex with someone else but unprotected sex is not the only method of disease transference.

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