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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/24/2007 4:20:37 PM   
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Greetings Ygraine....

I was thinking about the end of my reply to you and realized that there was a better, and more amusing way of putting it. Lets put it as I am far enough along now to have read the departmental course catalog and have signed up for the spring semester courses. <grins>

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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/24/2007 5:31:16 PM   
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Greetings Master Orion,

A girl thanks you for the time You took in sharing Your perspective.
She never would have thought of situations such as this in terms of natural order vs. failure.

May she wish You well

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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/24/2007 6:27:47 PM   
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I was going to ask about your GPA and your FASFA but I thought it would be too personal.  Thank you for the analogy.
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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/24/2007 8:55:28 PM   
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"The reality is that such slavers and slave houses pretty much do not exist."

Odd.. there was just a program on TV 360 or something like about the slave trade.......

Rapture

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ORIGINAL: Malkinius

Greetings Ygraine....

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Morning Malkinius,

Thank you for your inciteful post.  If that is the case, and I agree by the way, what is the protocol for behavior if a woman wishes to be slave but is not enslaved?

Y


If someone is unowned and wants to be owned by a Gorean then they should do as has been done since the whole concept of an unowned slave started online at least a decade ago and do their best to act as they believe and have been trained in how a Gorean's slave should act.

Mentally, it could be thought of, to use a referent in the books, as a girl in a slaver's house who has been put on display to entice someone to buy her. The difference is that she gets to choose your owner. She is putting herself on display to entice someone to own her. That is what being an unowned slave is really about.

Hypothetical dream time here <grins>: In the best of possible translations of the books to Earth practice, any would be Gorean's slave would give herself to a slaver in her area who would train and then market her. There would be no unowned slaves. There were certainly none in the books. In the books there were slaves, run-away slaves, former slaves and a very very few who were free but looking to be enslaved. The last state did not last long.

The reality is that such slavers and slave houses pretty much do not exist. The people capable of and willing to train someone who will go to another are a small percentage those who claim to be of the Caste of Slavers. I study the techniques of slave training from BDSM sources as they are the ones who have put the study and work into learning and practice of that art. From what I have learned so far, what such a trainer really needs to know is a body of knowledge equal to a college BA degree. Most 'Gorean slavers' are still taking their first high school classes on the subject but that is what we get from the on and offline players.

I have long said that an expert is someone who knows how much they don't know. I am not yet an expert on the training of slaves but the fog has lifted somewhat for me. <grins>

Be well.....

Malkinius


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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/25/2007 3:23:48 AM   
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Tal Rapture....

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"The reality is that such slavers and slave houses pretty much do not exist."

Odd.. there was just a program on TV 360 or something like about the slave trade.......

Rapture


There is an international slave trade, but it is mostly for prostitution. It has little to nothing to do with what we call slavery. I was speaking of slave houses as were described in the books, or in other sources such as the Marketplace series, the Story of O and other such fiction from BDSM. Yes, there are some places that really are like or similar to what is in those books. They are very rare and even if I knew where they were I wouldn't tell people where they really were.

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RE: Failed slaves, turning FW? - 1/25/2007 7:02:38 AM   
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As was intimated in the books, you had to be one of the usual suspects to be included, and I suspect that is true of the international slave trade as well, it only makes sense.

Hup

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