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orfunboi -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 9:54:33 AM)
She asked "what should the word property mean"...i explained i think it should mean exactly what it means. Maybe i am just tired today, but i don't understand the need to redefine words.

AquaticSub -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 10:42:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: orfunboi She asked "what should the word property mean"...i explained i think it should mean exactly what it means. Maybe i am just tired today, but i don't understand the need to redefine words. I just pointed out to you why in BDSM there is a need to redefine words but I'll do it again. I identify mostly as a kitten. Obviously I am not covered in fur and I don't pee in a litterbox, nor do I eat catfood. Hence, there is a different defination for what I am and it's not found in Webster. Make sense?

LycanHorde -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 11:11:19 AM)
I define property by the the willful surrender of free will.

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 11:31:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LycanHorde I define property by the the willful surrender of free will. I assume you mean human property because I'm quite certain your computer didn't surrender its free will? How can a person surrender their free will? If you believe in free will as a concept, it's not something than a person can really DO anything with accept direct behavior from it. You can't give it away, or throw it away, or divvy it up. You can control who has authority over EXPRESSION of one's will. But the will itself is immutable.

Devilslilsister -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 11:46:26 AM)
Fascinating....... Its not that i'm trying to redefine anything. I just couldnt put the dictionary def into practical BDSM sense. When Master looks at me and says "you are property" i was hoping to actually have a concrete meaning to put in place for the word. So what i'm getting from you all is generally speaking property means : existing to be used and useful to the Owner prevalent connotation of objectification final decisions are left to the one purpose is to make my life easier great value status possession no control over what your owner decides slavery pure and simple no rights simply means collared my welfare is in the hands of another right of possession, enjoyment something at the disposal of a person i c/p abit from each of your posts, trying to sort out your meaning of the word. Hopefully this is the gist of it? Honestly it just looks like the definition for slave sorta

Mercnbeth -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 11:52:45 AM)
quote: ...Honestly it just looks like the definition for slave sorta... for this slave, the two are strongly connected. this slave became Master's property when she became His slave-- for Him to do what He will with, akin to His ownership of other valuable assets.[:)]

mstrjx -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 12:01:25 PM)
I apologize for not reading all of the entries in the thread, but I'll jump in anyway. 'Property' is a fairly simple concept, at least as it is to me. It can be thought of in a possessive sense or in a somewhat degrading sense, depending on your perspective. Let's say I have a choice today of how I wish to spend my time. I can a) read a book, b) play a video game, c) do the laundry, d) utilize my property (or play with my toy). Any will do, one isn't any greater or less than the other, it's just a choice an owner has to make. Also a person that takes proper care of his/her inanimate (property) objects, cars, furniture, the like, is probably willing to do what it takes to treat the animate property well as well. Jeff

MercilessMarcy -> RE: Property (1/26/2007 12:05:45 PM)
When I collar a slave, it is because I have decided to accept the responsibility of ownership. I make all decisions. My slave exists to meet my needs and desires, and in exchange the slaves needs and desires are met. To be content and feel fulfilled a slave needs to feel OWNED. My slave is my valuable property, my pet, my treasure. I enable my slave to live a life free from all responsibilities except my pleasure. It is ironic that to feel truly free some choose a life of slavery. I am glad that they do, for I feel most content and fulfilled when I am in charge of all decisions. All of that is to simply say: Property = Owned to me.

lovingcouple17 -> RE: Property (1/27/2007 5:04:21 PM)
to me, i became His property, when He became my Owner, when i accepted His permanent collare...and i'm property to do as He pleases....but i trust Him not to do something to harm me either mentally of physically....i still have rights...but He makes the decisions for me in BDSM....and i live within those decisions, out of desire to...but i know He will ALWAYS respect my limits...even though being His property HE could do otherwise... sebrina{L}

SirDominic -> RE: Property (1/27/2007 6:24:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I assume you mean human property because I'm quite certain your computer didn't surrender its free will? You just wait until you wake up one morning and your computer says to you "Good morning, Dave" is this soft, singsong voice. It's a really creepy experience!

ownedgirlie -> RE: Property (1/27/2007 8:57:00 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SirDominic quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross I assume you mean human property because I'm quite certain your computer didn't surrender its free will? You just wait until you wake up one morning and your computer says to you "Good morning, Dave" is this soft, singsong voice. It's a really creepy experience! Ha! When Macs first came out, I got one for our office. My boss Dave was trying to learn it and gettnig frustrated. One day I arrived early and programmed Hal to recite "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that." every time Dave hit a bad key. Well, I alternated between that and Curly exclaiming, "I'm trying to think but nuthin happens!"

Hissltviolet -> RE: Property (1/27/2007 10:03:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Devilslilsister You know the word - Propery. There are alot of things i find important to think about and figure out and alot of things i dont. I seem to have never found it important to nail down a definition. But it seems like it might be important to realise what it means at this point. At least what it SHOULD mean. (Not what you want it to mean, but what it should). i have an idea... it means you are owned..... but then i sort of get lost there. Because i know i'm not a car, or a table, or a couch, or a bed or a door. So as retarded as this sounds......... what should the word property mean? (and i've read the dictionary) And i'm also talking about it in context of "you are property" i suppose that the common definition of "propery" in a vanilla sense does not concide with a D/s one for me. this slave girl is in the same 'thinking' that it seems you are...she is recently collared and learning to take her 'place' as property...initially...she tried to grasp the concept as being the same as Master's HARLEY...or His favorite chair...or any other inanimate possession...but...she is not an 'object'...she is a slave...being a 'living' piece of property... and that is where her 'value' as property is to Master...He owns her because she brings something of pleasure to Him in the fact that she is a living...breathing...thinking...and reacting creature...a piece of property that He can interact with on an intellectual level...mentally and emotionally... if He desired another 'chair'...He would buy one... in His case...being the 'artist' He is...He craved a slave girl that He could 'design' into a work of art for His pleasure...she begged His collar because she craved the opportunity to become that 'design'...thus...she has become the 'canvas' for Him to express Himself...this gives her an independant and personal identity as His property...still very much in Him...because He defines her purpose...but...she can understand the reason He chooses to own her... for her...it works like this...He owns a HARLEY because He loves to ride it... He owns that favorite chair because it is His favorite color and the most comfortable thing in the house...He owns the dog in the back yard because it is a good watch dog...He owns this slave because she fulfills a useful and pleasurable service to Him...allowing Him to express Himself farther than He could otherwise... if she were to try to bring it into it's most simple M/s definition...FOR SHE AND HER MASTER...it equates to nothing more than He needing to 'own' a slave and she needing to 'be' owned as a slave...the dynamics that come into play in the relationship are based on the matching of needs between the T/two...THIS T/two...what might be the 'definition' of property for her Master ...thus...for her...may not be exactly what another Master might have in mind for His needs and in the slave He possesses... this is one of the beautiful things about this 'lifestyle'...W/we are all striving to be 'free' to 'be' what suits each and all...individually...and as 'couples'...or 'families'...or what ever...W/we define what works for U/us...and if we are at all lucky...we find the O/one(s) that is/are the (almost) perfect opposite componant to our nature and live happily ever after... <blushes>...she hopes that helps...

LuckyAlbatross -> RE: Property (1/27/2007 11:05:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hissltviolet this is one of the beautiful things about this 'lifestyle'...W/we are all striving to be 'free' to 'be' what suits each and all...individually...and as 'couples'...or 'families'...or what ever...W/we define what works for U/us...and if we are at all lucky...we find the O/one(s) that is/are the (almost) perfect opposite componant to our nature and live happily ever after... <blushes>...she hopes that helps... To me that is what is beautiful about LIFE. Plenty of people turn to the "lifestyle" as a way to hide from themselves.

Hissltviolet -> RE: Property (1/28/2007 6:20:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross quote: ORIGINAL: Hissltviolet this is one of the beautiful things about this 'lifestyle'...W/we are all striving to be 'free' to 'be' what suits each and all...individually...and as 'couples'...or 'families'...or what ever...W/we define what works for U/us...and if we are at all lucky...we find the O/one(s) that is/are the (almost) perfect opposite componant to our nature and live happily ever after... <blushes>...she hopes that helps... To me that is what is beautiful about LIFE. Plenty of people turn to the "lifestyle" as a way to hide from themselves. <sighs>...point taken LA...sometimes this girl is much too much of an optomist...she just likes to 'believe' that all the OP here embrace the 'lifestyle' as naturally as she does...not looking for 'escape' but 'liberation'...<giggles> ...do not think that she is 'naive'...on the contrary...she has met her fair share of disallusionment in O/others...but...isn't that the way it is in all 'walks' of life?...there are always going to be those that feel a need to hide from themselves rather than discover who they really are...so sad...since life is so short and true happiness comes from 'within'...

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