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The fine line

I do not equate BDSM with Gor

19% (5)

Respect is earned and not given

23% (6)

I freely respect all others untill they lose that respect.

30% (8)

I wish IronBear was here to deal with you Loki

26% (7)

Total Votes : 26

(last vote on : 2/7/2007 7:06:05 PM)
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The fine line - 2/5/2007 1:31:23 PM

Wulfchyld

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Tal and greetings,

Being that the Gorean practice has been intermeshed within the BDSM community I am curious about protocol and respect. Now I understand that as Goreans there exists a protocol of respect to other Goreans, however where is the fine line of respect?

How does a Gorean Master/Mistress address a BDSM Dom/me?
How does a Gorean Master/Mistress address a BDSM sub/slave?

How does a Gorean slave address a BDSM Dom/me?
How does a Gorean slave address a BDSM sub/slave?

When entertaining a BDSM D or s, what is the appropriate etiquette utilized by the guest in regards to the Gorean slave?

Does the slave serve the BDSM Dom/me as if he/she were a Gorean?

Respectfully
Loki

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 1:56:01 PM

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i so wish to press on i wish IronBear was here Master. :) But i feel that BDSM and Gorean lifestyle is not the same, i think both are a good, and just as valuble as one another, but they are different things. As to how to act around one another, that is somthing that create alot of debate, debates witch i, i am sorry to say, somthing have gotten angry enough over to be less than polite.

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 1:56:41 PM

Thadius

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Tal Loki,

There are a couple of choices I would make from the above poll..

Let me get to the questions you posed though. I treat all people with common courtesy, respect is either earned or lost based on my interactions with each individual. So I guess that is where I draw the line on respect, each individual will either garner or lose my respect based on getting to know the person.

I address people based on the level of familiarity with them (how we were introduced), ie first name basis or Mr Jones, Mrs Jones... Attaching other honorifics or titles doesn't really fit unless it is Dr so and so or a member of clergy.

I address a sub/slave based on how they are introduced to me... and occasionally the "girl" or "boy" comes out. Mainly it is by first name, as that is how most are introduced (the old practice of using just one name for the sake of being discreet).

I think the general rule, at least for me, would be to use whatever the rules of the house are. A guest in my house, should feel as if they are at home, if they need something ask, if you starve or go thirsty it is your own fault. My girl will offer the first drink and or food, and ask about refills; after that it is up to the guest to instruct her as to what they want.

My girl will serve all guests in my house exactly the same way, whether Gorean or not. It is not her position to make a judgement either way. The only exceptions to these rules are family, when and if they visit us, it hasn't happened yet. When we visit them, we follow the rules of their house.

I wish you well,
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P.S. If you had something more specific in mind, feel free to ask. I know these were generalized answers.

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 2:01:58 PM

Ashaia

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Tal ya'll,

When you come to my house you're simply treated with respect. Men have always and will always have precedent. If you're a male one eyed one horned flying purple people eater, you're going to be treated well unless and until such a time as my mate says get out... and he'd only say such if you were an idiot. Addressing people offline is really far less complicated to me than online protocols. Most of the time, a first name works. If you don't know someone's name, you can ask. Hi I'm Karyn, not sure we've met before...

Not so complicated, but I'm a simple woman,
Ash

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 2:02:35 PM

Wulfchyld

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neph, we are of the same mind. Thank you for responding.

Thadius, your post is exactly what I was hoping for. Thank you very much.

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 2:12:52 PM

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I respond to people as they are introduced to me. I interact both with lifestyler, Goreans, Leathermen etc. If someone is introduced to me as LordThor I would address him as such *not necessarily frequently* but until he said nah just call me Bill or whatever. I am simply called by my first name.

Slaves addresses people as Master or Mistress unless the slave is given permission to do otherwise. Others are addresses by their name, ie slavesusan or susan however the other girls/boys are introduced.

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 2:19:50 PM

peachums

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I just love Master IronBear

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 5:30:03 PM

nephandi

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me to, do anyone know how he is theese days. He and Lady Neets?

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 6:40:30 PM

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greetings,

They are both doing well and Master sounded very happy last time this girl spoke to Him.

Wishing you well

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RE: The fine line - 2/5/2007 8:32:23 PM

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Ah wonderful news. Pleese would you do my the favor and say hallo from me if you talk whit them. Thank you for the information.

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RE: The fine line - 2/6/2007 5:50:10 AM

fyreredsub

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greetings nephandi,

she will be happy to pass this on
wishing you well

edited for an oops...when one can not spell a two letter word before 9am its time for more java

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ORIGINAL: nephandi

Ah wonderful news. Pleese would you do my the favor and say hallo from me if you talk whit them. Thank you for the information.

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RE: The fine line - 2/6/2007 9:46:33 AM

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Thank you, you are most kind.

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