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"Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/6/2007 8:46:47 PM   
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Has anyone ever used or thought of using the "invisible fence" dog fencing system? If your not familiar with it I'll explain. The traditional use of this device is to keep dogs in areas without fencing or a chain. It uses a wire that is normally buried half a foot in the soil.in a perimeter fashion around a yard. The wire transmits a light signal that actuates the collar on the dog. The collar gives the dog a shock if it passes the perimeter wire and continues light shocks until the collar returns to the interior of the perimeter... How much fun is that!
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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/6/2007 8:50:58 PM   
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yes a a matter of fact i have but sad for me it was not in a really fun way...we carry them at work so we tried them to see if they worked. you can get ones that you control the zap and some that are just one level.

it was an awful lot of fun to see all the little high school boys walking around in collars...not nearly as much fun as it was zapping them when they didnt expect it. even subs have evil sides.

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/6/2007 10:12:13 PM   
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Also a well respected leather Puppy Daddy here in San Francisco rerigged the remote control shock training collars to be shock cock rings. His remote has two buttons, one for each puppy, and it keeps them in line pretty darn well. I can't wait until I get one too...

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/6/2007 10:55:50 PM   
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I've done a lot of thinking on the very same subject. I would like to have the ability to combine a stun belt:
http://www.forcegroup.co.za/scape_stunbelt.htm

, with the Invisible Fence type of system.

Of course, it would be better still to have a house that can be securely locked and/or a high perimeter fence around the yard, but the Invisible Fence would be good also.

Sincerely,
Kevin

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/7/2007 10:30:11 AM   
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You've got to be careful where you place them. The shock is minor, but could still create a dangerous situation for someone with a heart or arrythmia condition - or one neither of you knew about. Remember too, dogs have fur which ameliorates the sting some, humans don't.

That said, I had one on my ankle once, paired to a tiny hand held remote that allowed 3 different levels of intensity and allowed her to zap  me whenever she felt like it. We never did though place it in some of the other places she was considering.

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/7/2007 1:07:39 PM   
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Your right WalterRego, of course safety and health first... It's good to see that there has been some utilization of this device, and to read a few experiences :)

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/7/2007 2:08:27 PM   
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I would like to see them variable.

I've played around with a waveform generator, and think there are better options than the I fence or the stun belt. I have also placed electrodes in quite a few places.

My generator puts out up to about 40 volts, which is more than enough for "certain" areas. I also have a transformer that can about triple it, but at a lower current.

Variable would be great, the sub can be forced to do certain things while recieving a milder, but constant shock. Of course whatever it is, it must be lockable.

If you want to see something that puts my evil genius mode to shame almost, go to Neosteel's website. They make chastity belts, but they also have an interesting accesory. They call it a remote education shield and consists of a dildo electrode, power box and remote. It cannot be removed or shut off by the wearer.

Just type neosteel into Google and it will come right up as long as safe search is off. They have an English section, and being in Germany they have pictures.

Thing with that though is it can't be worn 24/7. I think with their product there should be more placement options for the electrodes.

Along with that, there is another thing BURNED into my mind from a long time ago.

It was porn, Woman giving head, and she was wearing a collar. It wasn't a shock collar like they have today, but it was locking, leather and instead of the two prongs like on the modern units, this one appeared to have conductive bands going all the way around at the top and bottom.

Understand that seeing that pic is awesome. It implies that she was forced to do it and if she bites she gets shocked. I truly hope that wasn't the case, but think about it. They may have killed her and dumped her in the river for all I know. It was interesting, but it was pre-internet and it was lost, in a move I think.

So these stun belts must have some sort of similar arraingement, I did go look at them and they seem to have top and bottom circular electrodes. Actually if you know anything about electric play, you already know that is the only safe way to shock someone anywhere on the torso. You must meticulously avoid passing the current through, or even really close to someone's heart and lungs.

The stun belt website also seem to only sell to LEOs and agencies. I can design and build electronic devices. I am not really into digital, but I can do quite a bit.

I could build a belt, like a chastity belt with electrodes for the genitals. Then it is a matter of a battery pack, reciever, some sort of transformer to kick up the voltage, and some sort of remote control.

It can be made quite simply, the transmitter transmits a certain frequency. If I don't go too nuts I'll put in some security to prevent false triggering. The transmitter can be adjusted for strength, and the reciever simply administer current proportional to the strength of the signal. Other than direct control under most normal indoor situations, perhaps I could put in a logarythmic mode (I always had trouble spelling that). That would be where it is graded on a much steeper curve, field strength vs shock level that is.

Then the keys to the sub's bondage gear can simply be placed right near the remote. It can be set so they will never endure the level it takes to get to the remote or the keys.

Also the transmitter and reciever set to this could be used on a restrained sub, with the Master's impending approch known, if you know what I mean. And the closer the Master gets to the sub, the higher the current.

The transmitter can be left anywhere the sub is to stay away from, like the keys, the booze, anything. The transmitter can easily be equipped with a set of terminals for external trigger(s). The sub could recieve a shock for opening a door or say breaking a beam of light. If the sub is fat, put the transmitter in the refrigerator !

Lol.

If anyone thinks there might be a demand for this device, I'll consider working with Jillian of LIS to maker it happen. Might not be easy, but might be woirth it.

T

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/8/2007 6:41:14 AM   
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I have wondered if a small collar could be made that is small enough to fit tightly around my balls and locked,it would have a remote control that the owner would have ,then if i dissobey or am a bad girl in any way i can be disciplinned with the push of a button.I know it wont take many times shocking my balls ,(painfull enough to bring me to tears) to to make me do anything ordered.

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/8/2007 1:53:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Termyn8or

I would like to see them variable.

I've played around with a waveform generator, and think there are better options than the I fence or the stun belt. I have also placed electrodes in quite a few places.

My generator puts out up to about 40 volts, which is more than enough for "certain" areas. I also have a transformer that can about triple it, but at a lower current.

Variable would be great, the sub can be forced to do certain things while recieving a milder, but constant shock. Of course whatever it is, it must be lockable.

If you want to see something that puts my evil genius mode to shame almost, go to Neosteel's website. They make chastity belts, but they also have an interesting accesory. They call it a remote education shield and consists of a dildo electrode, power box and remote. It cannot be removed or shut off by the wearer.

Just type neosteel into Google and it will come right up as long as safe search is off. They have an English section, and being in Germany they have pictures.

Thing with that though is it can't be worn 24/7. I think with their product there should be more placement options for the electrodes.

Along with that, there is another thing BURNED into my mind from a long time ago.

It was porn, Woman giving head, and she was wearing a collar. It wasn't a shock collar like they have today, but it was locking, leather and instead of the two prongs like on the modern units, this one appeared to have conductive bands going all the way around at the top and bottom.

Understand that seeing that pic is awesome. It implies that she was forced to do it and if she bites she gets shocked. I truly hope that wasn't the case, but think about it. They may have killed her and dumped her in the river for all I know. It was interesting, but it was pre-internet and it was lost, in a move I think.

So these stun belts must have some sort of similar arraingement, I did go look at them and they seem to have top and bottom circular electrodes. Actually if you know anything about electric play, you already know that is the only safe way to shock someone anywhere on the torso. You must meticulously avoid passing the current through, or even really close to someone's heart and lungs.

The stun belt website also seem to only sell to LEOs and agencies. I can design and build electronic devices. I am not really into digital, but I can do quite a bit.

I could build a belt, like a chastity belt with electrodes for the genitals. Then it is a matter of a battery pack, reciever, some sort of transformer to kick up the voltage, and some sort of remote control.

It can be made quite simply, the transmitter transmits a certain frequency. If I don't go too nuts I'll put in some security to prevent false triggering. The transmitter can be adjusted for strength, and the reciever simply administer current proportional to the strength of the signal. Other than direct control under most normal indoor situations, perhaps I could put in a logarythmic mode (I always had trouble spelling that). That would be where it is graded on a much steeper curve, field strength vs shock level that is.

Then the keys to the sub's bondage gear can simply be placed right near the remote. It can be set so they will never endure the level it takes to get to the remote or the keys.

Also the transmitter and reciever set to this could be used on a restrained sub, with the Master's impending approch known, if you know what I mean. And the closer the Master gets to the sub, the higher the current.

The transmitter can be left anywhere the sub is to stay away from, like the keys, the booze, anything. The transmitter can easily be equipped with a set of terminals for external trigger(s). The sub could recieve a shock for opening a door or say breaking a beam of light. If the sub is fat, put the transmitter in the refrigerator !

Lol.

If anyone thinks there might be a demand for this device, I'll consider working with Jillian of LIS to maker it happen. Might not be easy, but might be woirth it.

T


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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/9/2007 9:17:42 AM   
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I have used a remote control training collar.  At first I drilled holes in an ankle cuff and mounted the module on it.  Then I got brave, put it back on the collar, and double wrapped the collar around my cock and balls.  It was safe, and the lowest level shock wasn't horrible, until I started to sweat.  And when a Domme has the remote, and is teasing you,  you sweat alot! 
Since then, I have gotten a conventional low power electeric fence charger, and attached it to a wire dog cage.  If the sub moves enough to touch the sides or top of the cage, he , she or me, in my case. is shocked.  The most evil part of this cage is that the bottom has a wire grid. If your hands or feet or knees move enough to touch a wire, ZAP!    A blindfold, or lights off makes the slave really sweat, not knowing where the boundries are. 
For self bondage, the charger could be plugged into a timer. 

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/9/2007 3:42:18 PM   
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I have played with tens units and taking the idea of the fence control into mind a few times. i bought an Erostek 301 ad bought 3 extra remote controls wiith it. Resaon for 3 remotes was one was going to be taken apart and hooked to a computer relay box. That box, available as a kit or assembled , has 4 inputs and 8 outputs. A door switch it hooked to input one, and the longer it is open , the level goes from level one to level 2, and finally level 3 when the erostek is in training mode. just a simple magnetic door switch available at radio shack, more doors could be added for other levels

I also made a copper type cb just for tens play, and also a set of rings which could be worn and not visible through pants etc. And the eros tek fits in a belt clip and not really noticable under a jacket or tee shirt not tucked in, and would resemble a cell phone.
not to mention, there is also a program which reads my computer weaather station and can be set to go off on the 3 training levels  based on wind .

to see the cooper cb and rings ( which are cheaper to make then the cock attachemnts made for tens units) take a look at http://www.slavechris.com and it has 3 or4 pages of variations.


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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/10/2007 9:06:39 AM   
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Damn, I guess I am not the only evil genius here.

There might be some collaberation possible here.

Irish, you made those ? I mean soldered them together after concieving the idea ? Nice. In fact I want one, but I think I can build that. If nothing else thanks for the idea, but that's not to cut you out. Incidentally you might be interested in PES, Personal Electric Stimulation. Specifically their corona electrode with urethral amplifier, and the tubular anal electrode, which is designed for those who don't normally take it that way.

At any rate, many different configurations are possible, they even have nipple electrodes, but they are bipolar and each nipple requires a seperate channel. That way no current passes through the chest.

My end of it is a little different. See I didn't go buy a unit, that puts out set frequencies and all that. I have a Wavetek model 111 waveform generator. It can generate sine, square, triangle and ½ sawtoothe waves. Each feels different, and the frequency is adjustable from a fraction of a Hertz to at least 100Khz..

Lower frequencies result in pain, especially square waves, DC burns. High frequency AC tingles, and it seems that if you leave the level the same, lowering the frequency sends the tingle "deeper" in a way. Going too low will bring burning, even pain though.

The question I have is how do you deal with the unequal conductivity ? On the copper CB, do you use something as a conductant ? I've found that when things don't conduct well, they can burn.

Unless it is mainly for punishment ............

T

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/10/2007 9:43:48 AM   
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I have made a few variations besides the ones on those pages. I found that the more contact coverage and tighter it was , it would serve for both pleasure and pain. I tried the elctro gels, but they helped conductivity but didn't do much for skin protection. I use mainly a well spread , but thin coating of vasaline. It helps protect the skin from burns and allows movment so the contact isnt centered on one place. And since i used a tube there was more surface coverage

I made all the copper stuff after trying the store bought penis attachments and found them lacking in many areas. Te copper was easy to solder, how ever making the small bends is hit or miss at times. I got a small pully, and heat the copper as i wrap it around. that helps keep from the tube crimping.

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 2/10/2007 9:25:32 PM   
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Perhaps one of these www.globalpetfinder.com connected to it instead of wire in the ground.

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RE: "Invisible fence" pet barriers - 4/8/2007 3:16:03 PM   
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Mrs. Crush and I've rigged up one of the remote dog trainers and it works great in public!
The "dog unit" is in a cellphone case on my belt and two wires snake under my belt and into my pants.  There the two wires are attached to electrodes:

Electrode 1:  Penny taped to the underside of my cock at that fun little split point
Electrode 2: A band (static wristband with the resistor removed) around my balls under a leather stretcher (to keep them there!) and taped in place.

She then goes from about 5 to 10 in the ZAP range and has gotten pretty good at judging range and repeat cycles.   She's even "shared it around" a couple times at a bar we go to and I've been made to walk around waiting for someone to zap me.   (They enjoyed it...and yeah, so did I!)

Let me know if you want some specific plans/pictures.

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