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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/7/2009 8:38:54 PM   
ishyB


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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

I can relate, this sums up that side of me as well..ya know the death camp side :). The irony is that even when they treat you special or treasure you, you are still just a lowly slave in their eyes. Coming to see that by what happened to me over the past several months was probably one of the most valuable lessons I have learned in my collar. It changed me, it brought my vulnerability and helplessness in the face of him to the forefront and re-confirmed(as if their was ever any doubt) to him that my rightful place is in a collar. I find his lack of respect for me and the way he -really- sees me like a warm blanket that I can't snuggle far enough into these days. 


Greetings BeingChewsie,

I think this is also going to be the most important thing to learn in the next couple of months/years.
I'm in a place right now, were on a purely intellectual level, I totally know and understand where and how I fit into his life; at the same time though, on an emotional/instinctive level, I still have the tendency to fall back and rely on old habits created with other men when it comes to how I relate to the way he keeps me.
At the moment 'What If?' still plays to big a part in the conflict between mind and emotion, mostly because I'm stuck so far away from him I guess. When he's got me near him, he just doesn't allow me to run in circles like this.
Like with the question about him keeping another girl: on and intellectual level, I know HE will make up his mind about it, I know that whatever he'll do will be the right thing, so I know that *I* don't have to worry about it... but at the same time, my feelings are still running circles about the whole thing, wanting it, not wanting it and generally confusing me.

quote:


It is like a kindred spirit! I like him fucking other women, lots of other women, lots and lots of other women. Now that I know he is fond of keeping some of them long term too, I'm even more turned on. He tells me that it "takes a village" to meet all his various needs and desires :). I kiddingly quip back, while moving swiftly from the room "Could you have the village come do the laundry and/or clean the bathrooms once in a while?"


I am SOOOOOO going to have to suggest that too him.

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/7/2009 8:43:04 PM   
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*PERK* clean!!! OoOoOooo! i so love cleaning! wish you were closer Chewsie! and laundry? omgosh! i love the whole process of laundry...the taking of time to seperate things, to carefully fold them, toooooooo....omg! lets not even go into Ironing! *drools*


Happy Tuesday!
-smilezz-


Hi smilezz,

*coughs*
Hmmmm
Euhmmm...

You know....

There is always laundrey here to...
(take Omaha - Eppley Airfield)

I wish you well,

ishy

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/7/2009 8:49:37 PM   
smilezz


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quote:

Hi smilezz,

*coughs*
Hmmmm
Euhmmm...

You know....

There is always laundrey here to...
(take Omaha - Eppley Airfield)

I wish you well,

ishy


OooOO! ishy.................now I am taking even more notes! I am finally walking on two feet now and am just aching to get cleaning up to standards.

Have an amazing night!

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/7/2009 8:58:21 PM   
BeingChewsie


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See you get my idea of "doing the laundry" ...

I am happier, but there really wasn't any reason for me to be unhappy to begin with. I'm just thankful that you were there to set me straight and listen...it made all the difference. Thanks again :).

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ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie


Separate? Iron? ....


greetings Sue,

Isn't that what Dry Cleaners are for?

sabba is glad you're doing much better....you certainly sound happier. Acceptance, whenever it comes, is a wonderful thing. At least she keeps telling herself that.

well wishes,
sabba



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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/7/2009 9:04:32 PM   
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~smiles to the girls...

Am trying hard to do other things, like wrap her legs around her head again (almost there) um... So who was it who said they would iron and fold undies? Sighs... 'tis true, this one just puts them where they go right now... but moving up is always in the cards. ~smiles

Plus his momma use to get sooooooo upset if this one didn't iron them undies. Wowies at the flashback.  Am scared to burn in hell.

~twink


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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 5:16:03 AM   
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morning, girls!

First i wanna make something clear cause i guess i didn't in the earlier post... as far as Master's girls go, i am first only by date on the calendar. He made me y's mentor sort of, so that i could answer questions etc, if she couldn't ask Him. (she joined us right before He was diagnosed, so His energy became limited early on. It was a good thing for her to have someone to ask "is this something i should bother Him with?" ) i actually have no authority over her, though she endures me mothering her at times.

i am happy with this... if i felt like being dominant in my relationships with others, i wouldn't be in the relationship i am now. And when Sir decides to bring in other girls, i shall make them feel as welcome as i can because it isn't my call or choice. It is what He feels is best for all. i don't begrudge His having others to fill His needs, since the area of His life that i can fill is hemmed around with other demands.

Someday, i will be allowed to share His home and i shall continue to serve Him to my very best... and if He brings in other girls, i will try to make them feel safe, happy and welcome.

As for laundry... bleh! my ex MIL would iron jeans!! not for me, no. i did request that Master rig a clothesline outside. His sheets get hung out to fry because He enjoys that lovely smell. Straight from the line to His bed, yup. Heaven!

peace,

g




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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 10:24:24 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie

See you get my idea of "doing the laundry" ...

I am happier, but there really wasn't any reason for me to be unhappy to begin with. I'm just thankful that you were there to set me straight and listen...it made all the difference. Thanks again :).

quote:

ORIGINAL: sabba

quote:

ORIGINAL: BeingChewsie


Separate? Iron? ....


greetings Sue,

Isn't that what Dry Cleaners are for?

sabba is glad you're doing much better....you certainly sound happier. Acceptance, whenever it comes, is a wonderful thing. At least she keeps telling herself that.

well wishes,
sabba




Sue;

she didn't tell you anything that you didn't already know. Sometimes maybe, it takes saying it out loud....before understanding it will be ok.

And yeah...she totally gets your idea of laundry!

well wishes,
sabba

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 12:09:52 PM   
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Hello girls,

i just wanted to say thank you for those who commented... i really enjoy learning from your perspective, and now having a few experiences under my belt, i can relate too!  Nothing beats actual experience over talking about it forever!

donna... i think i am on the same wavelength as you.  I came into this whole lifestyle a few years ago from a total monogomous perspective.   I am slowly growing to understand that, while i really need to feel owned and cared about, it doesn't have to be monogomous.   That is a way huge big change in mindset for me...

ishy... almost everything you said i could totally relate to... i have those same needs too... and i actually served as third girl in a house for a period of time, and although in many ways it wasn't a very good thing for me, in some ways it was...  one thing for sure is that i certainly was able to feel much more 'slave' just simply by the fact that i was not his ony one.   If one of us fell out of his good graces, there were two others of us there and that definitely puts him in a very increased position of power.   Also, as third girl, it was difficult at times but i actually needed the humility.  In some ways, i actually enjoyed it.

chewsie... thanks for sharing about your life experiences.  It keeps me grounded on what it really is all about to be a man's slave...  and it shows that being a slave takes an incredible amount of strength and fortitude... and some men are just simply *worth it*   *smiles*

I think in the future, i would actually do better *not* being the number one girl...   i could probably do well in a dynamic like Mrandme said... there really wasn't a hierarchy,  or i would do well being #2...    or at least be with a Master whom i know is enjoying (a) relationship(s) outside of the one he has with me.    Of course, it would be his decision, not mine... (goes without saying), but the change for me is instead of getting all worked up about the idea like i would have a couple of years ago, i think i am actually coming to not only accept it, but to realize, as a slave, i need that too... i need to see that i am not 'the only one' and that he has the 'right' to whatever relationship(s) he wants.   I like that feeling of ....   i'm not sure what the word is... but whatever it is.... i like the feeling and the mindset it puts me into.

Thanks again everyone, for sharing your thoughts and experiences.
~sgs

edited to add... has anyone ever ironed using starch before?  i love to iron too... but have never done the 'starch thing'... i suppose it makes the experience all that much better... i'm a 'laundry girl' too!   *s*


< Message edited by sweetgirlserves -- 7/8/2009 1:06:36 PM >


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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 2:00:03 PM   
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quote:

edited to add... has anyone ever ironed using starch before?  i love to iron too... but have never done the 'starch thing'... i suppose it makes the experience all that much better... i'm a 'laundry girl' too!   *s*


Hi sgs...

When I was a little girl I was taught how to Iron with pepsi bottle with a sprinkler cap on it filled with water. My mother never used starch at that time. It was quite effective tooooo.

As I have grown I have used starch numerous times. I used to do my Master's BDU's with starch....gets that straight sharp line that is needed. The thing about using starch is sparingly...if used to much it can clump not only on the clothes, but the iron.......it's a mess.

I don't use alot of starch these days, but when needed, I take a great deal of joy in making those sharp lines once again.

Happy Wednesday!

-smilezz-

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 2:06:02 PM   
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quote:

chewsie... thanks for sharing about your life experiences.  It keeps me grounded on what it really is all about to be a man's slave...  and it shows that being a slave takes an incredible amount of strength and fortitude... and some men are just simply *worth it*   *smiles*


I think you really hit the nail on the head, he and the dynamic have to be worth it to you, you have to better off under him than you could ever be without him. If you doubt that way down deep in places you don't talk about, you might have a really, really hard time. This issue was small potatoes compared to the benefits to me and my um here in this household. It took me a few weeks to get my head out of my ass over it but it was really a no-brainer.

quote:

i think i am actually coming to not only accept it, but to realize, as a slave, i need that too... i need to see that i am not 'the only one' and that he has the 'right' to whatever relationship(s) he wants.   I like that feeling of ....   i'm not sure what the word is... but whatever it is.... i like the feeling and the mindset it puts me into.


I can tell you that for me it is my inability to dominate him, to be unable to impose my will upon him and there is something incredibly primal in me that responds to just being one his bitches. I have such a highly sexed response to it, that it damn near overwhelms me with the neediness of it.

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 2:07:45 PM   
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Hey there sweet smilezzzzzzz.....

My mom used the same thing!  I think it means we are umm...showing our age???  No...never, that could NEVER be!

Take care you sweet thing!

Mz Liz

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 6:51:42 PM   
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ummm what's starch?  grins for that matter -- what's an iron.



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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 8:11:26 PM   
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Hi MzLiz!!!!

Showing age? ohhhhh no no no......never could happen! *grinz*

You're missed! hope you have an awesome night!

-smilezz-

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/8/2009 8:14:53 PM   
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*grinz* at angel.........uhmmm....they are for having fun? AND for making things crisp? lol

Happy Wednesday!!

-smiley-




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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 4:00:50 AM   
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looks skeptically at smilezz, fun huh?  last i checked cooking was for making things crisp -- well at least for me.

grins at the smiley one



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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 2:52:11 PM   
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greetings girls,

do you think it is wrong for a slave to have sex with a married man? (I mean wrong for the slave to do it, not the man)


well wishes
kisshou

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 2:55:55 PM   
ishyB


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Greetings kisshou,

LOLOLOL, I think slaves should have MORE sex with married men...
Lots and lots and lots more sex.

I wish you well,

ishy

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Someone's gotta go
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But I wanted to move on
So I'm already gone

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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 3:17:11 PM   
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I guess there needs to be more clarification -- in what context is this?  

1.  To me, a slave is a woman actually owned by someone who is commanding her.  As such,  I would say no its not wrong.  Whether he is married or not is not the business of the slave and this issue, if it is an issue, should be between the Men not the slave and Men.  She obeys. 

If she is a free woman who calls herself a slave -- then it depends on many different factors whether or not i would view it as wrong.

angel


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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 3:22:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: sweetgirlserves

Here's an off-the-wall question i've been thinking about... so i thought i'd throw it out there...

Could you be your Master's second (or even third) girl?    Do you feel entitled to 1st place, or is it something you feel you have to continually earn?  And what if he decided that for whatever reason, he was bringing in another and putting her before you on the chain?   

I have my own thoughts about it (hypothetically of course), but i think it is something worth thinking about...

~sgs



Greetings Free and property,
Hi sweetgirlserves,

For me, the more the merrier!  I am the biggest collector of people and a total sharer.  I'd love a sprawling compound or maybe a village or island filled with everyone I love and everyone that they love, loving together with large common living areas and bungalo type places for privacy.  If it weren't for the religions themselves, I would thrive in one of those Mormon compounds or a cult compound.  I want an island full of slaves to share my experiences with, to have a day where its my turn to cook for the group and other servants/slaves have their own assigned days to be the cook.  I want a compound so big we have our own laundry mat and have a day of the week all the servants/slaves hang out talking and sharing while we do the wash for the compound.

We are monogamous because Master is not interested in investing himself in anyone else at the moment.  If/when he decides to invest himself in another, I'll be excited.  For me, it has nothing to do with sex.  I am not turned on by the idea of him having sex with someone else and I am not turned off/jealous/scared by the idea either.  For me, its about sharing my life with people ... its intimacy.  The more people to share my life with (IMO), the richer my life.  It doesn't enter my mind that if Master loves another that he would somehow love me less.  I'm a twin, so I never really had anything important all to myself.  There was never a period in my childhood where I was the baby or the special one or the only one.  I was one of a pair, equally special and loved.  Perhaps that has something to do with it.  My whole life has been about sharing things and people, and it has always worked out for me that the more you love, the more you are loved.   

There's a poster on the other side who ventures here now and then who I always love to read about her household.  I believe its Dame Calla, but please forgive me if I err.  She has all sorts of people in her family:  different genders, different stations (servant/slave, free, and some in-betweens i think), different orientations, etc.  My mind/heart works like that.  I want to incorporate everyone I come to love into Master's home, and even if it doesn't work out, I don't want to let them go!  Unfortunately, Master says his house isnt big enough for my hippie compound. :( 

Respectfully,

amy


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RE: slaves thread: support and girlie time - 7/9/2009 3:36:19 PM   
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quote:

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greetings girls,

do you think it is wrong for a slave to have sex with a married man? (I mean wrong for the slave to do it, not the man)


well wishes
kisshou


Greetings Free and property,
Hi kisshou,

If Master were married and I attempted to deny him, I would be wrong.  I would cave easily or he'd take it anyway, but I would have been wrong to attempt to deny him. 

If Master told me to sleep with MarriedManX and I attempted to refuse, I would be wrong.

If MarriedManX sweet-talked me into sleeping with him, I would be wrong (as I have a standing order to be monogomous).

If I were unowned, it would probably be morally wrong for me to sleep with a married man who's spouse didn't want him sleeping with me, but in the end, it would make little difference.  Unowned, if MarriedManX pushed hard enough or commanded in that way, I would be screwed (literally and figuratively).  I have zero ability to stand my ground in the face of a stronger person.

Respectfully,

amy

Edited to add:  Presently, I don't have a "morally wrong" as I don't have any morals of my own.  I obey.


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