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Age and Gor. - 3/15/2007 11:03:41 PM

Piyush

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Greetings all.

I need your opinions and thought on this. I recently got into an arugement with someone who thought it was just a big joke that I am just 20, and looking for a kajira. I didnt think there was an age minimum. What do you guys think?

Cheers
Piyush.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/15/2007 11:21:34 PM

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I think why do you care what some random stranger thinks.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 12:00:08 AM

Maahsatti

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Greetings Piyush,

While I am of the belief, that with age, comes wisdom and with experience, comes understanding.I feel, it really depends on the individual, what he has experienced and endured in his life, even if his life is yet,still young.
Some men have experienced in their teens and young adulthood, much more then a man of his 50's but I find that to be the rare exception.Other young adults have a much higher maturity then others as well, it really depends on the individual.
I tend to agree with, Feline Persuation, why do you care?
You know yourself, I would think. Only you can know, whether or not, you are mature and wise enough to take on the very real and very strong responsability of owning a slave.My only suggestion can be, take things a step at a time and truly look deep inside yourself and answer those questions, honestly, to yourself, if you dont, not only will or could it be disasterous to the slave but also to yourself.

I wish you well,
Maahsatti

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 1:06:27 AM

tangy

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greetings Master,

i think its just the fact that a older man, that has more experience can teach more and benefit more from it, and at the age of 20 you are still on your path to experiencing new things. for me i want someone who has already went though them stages of his life and can teach me. though there are some girls that would like to be able to share the nw experiences together. Can you still be a dominate man? sure you can. can i be a slave? sure i can but you are still growing, as i am still growing and learning and understanding who i am and where i actually belong, but a man that is older in age already has him self grounded ( well some do) and know where he has been and know where he is going, and knows what he wants at that very moment. alot of younger guys and girls ( our age) dont know what they really want. for me, i would rather have a older man guide me on my path, for i will learn so much more.

well wishes
tangy

< Message edited by tangy -- 3/16/2007 1:16:50 AM >

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 1:29:38 AM

Koa

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From one man to another. It does not matter if some guy or girl thinks your to young or to old. You will find someone that finds you perfect.

"Do not ask the stones or the trees how to live; they cannot tell you; they do not have tongues; do not ask the wise man how to live, for, if he knows, he will know he cannot tell you; if you would learn how to live do not ask the question, its answer is not in the question but in the answer, which is not in the words, do not ask how to live, but instead proceed to do so."
Marauders of Gor, pg9

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 3:09:53 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: tangy

greetings Master,

i think its just the fact that a older man, that has more experience can teach more and benefit more from it, and at the age of 20 you are still on your path to experiencing new things. for me i want someone who has already went though them stages of his life and can teach me. though there are some girls that would like to be able to share the nw experiences together. Can you still be a dominate man? sure you can. can i be a slave? sure i can but you are still growing, as i am still growing and learning and understanding who i am and where i actually belong, but a man that is older in age already has him self grounded ( well some do) and know where he has been and know where he is going, and knows what he wants at that very moment. alot of younger guys and girls ( our age) dont know what they really want. for me, i would rather have a older man guide me on my path, for i will learn so much more.

well wishes
tangy

Greetings Masters, Mistess's and fellow slaves, and tangy,

well said.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 3:43:33 AM

nephandi

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Greetings Master.

There will always be pepole that wil find faults in others. i have been told repededly that i was to young to practice the occult, to young to say i had found a man i would stay whit forever, now that i am 25 theese comentes have mostly disapeard, but i had several years where my belifhs and my relationship whit Master was ridiculed becouse i am young. i do belive the experience that come whit age is very beneficial, but i do not think you are to young. If you think you are old enough Master, and have spend enough time figuring out what you want in life. It should not matter what others think.

May i wish you well.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 4:55:01 AM

amberKuldan

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Greetings Master Piyush,
Greetings Masters & Mistresses,
Greetings girls,

This is an interesting topic and one that amber has visited before. she can remember that in regards to this very topic of age that a former Owner of hers called her "puritanical" in her views because she had begged not to be made to serve a man under the age of 25 sexually.

amber believes that an alternative lifestyle almost requires the average male or female to be at least 25 before they can seriously understand and undertake it. Any alternative lifestyle requires a great deal of commitment and fortitude. Most males and females do not know themselves well enough before age 25 to even consider such a thing. However, amber does know there are always and will always be exceptions to this.

With all of that said, amber has also found that Goreans generally are more tolerant of young female slaves. she believes this is because as young women they are more malleable perhaps than an older woman, and for this reason they are more easily molded into the sort of slave a man may want. On the other hand, most females seem to seek out an older man, one whom they know offers stability and security, one with wisdom from whom they can learn. These dynamics alone make it interesting.

amber will say that she has belonged to a man 20 years her junior and he was every bit of a Gorean man and Master as men that were much older than him. Maturity, experience, stability, responsibility, accountability, commitment, among many other things are what most females seek in a man. Owning another human being is an enormous responsibility.

amber wishes you most well.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 4:58:16 AM

kajjirus

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Greetings, Master,

jidar does not think that, at least in a Gorean context, age matters much, except that of course people should be of the age of consent for activities, which you appear to be, if one might say so, Master.

More important, this one begs to suggest, is the relationship, in which a Free Man or Free Woman knows how to act as a Free Man or Woman. jidar thinks there are some who seem to him to do this naturally, and some are young, others older. It is much more common among Men than Women, but there are plenty of Free Women who will never be slaves and yet know how to relate to slaves.

With greatest respect,

jidar

quote:

ORIGINAL: Piyush

Greetings all.

I need your opinions and thought on this. I recently got into an arugement with someone who thought it was just a big joke that I am just 20, and looking for a kajira. I didnt think there was an age minimum. What do you guys think?

Cheers
Piyush.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 5:06:24 AM

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Master Piyush

i am of the firm belief that there are some things that come with age and some that come with maturity. i have never thought that with one came the other ( a 20 year old can be much more mature than one who is 40 ).

i would agree with what was already said though; that it should not matter what another thinks about you. Let your actions show your maturity level; then age will not matter.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 5:52:12 AM

RPutnamJr

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Age does not matter, maturity and responsability that comes with age does have advantages though. It basically comes with stability and from knowing ones self. If you have to ask the question because of what some welp said then I would say you have not yet met the level of knowledge of knowing yourself yet. For a Free Man of Gor would not care what she said, but instead would have put her back in her place, reminding her of that place.

She might have been testing you and basically you failed the test. Remember We take what We want, for how can one surrender to that which does not have the skills and backbone to conquor and thus control her. You did not control the situation, did not control her, thus how can you expect to rule over her if you cannot control her. By running here you have shown weakness...whaa whaa whaa...people say I'm too young.

If you want respect then demand respect, but also give respect in return. If you seek a slave then treat her as a slave, especially if she is a slave. If she is a Free Woman then treat her as such, with respect. But remember even a Free Woman can be made a slave to the right Man who knows how to take what he wants and goes about it in the proper way. Gorean Women do not want whimps, be a Man and stand up to them, Act like a Man and they will at the very least respect it. Part of being a Man is also being a Gentleman and not a brut.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 5:54:54 AM

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Historically speaking, when arranged marriages were common place, women were usually married to older men. Usually 10-20 years their senior since the older men came with maturity, stability, wealth, etc. Thus with the ability to support and care for the women properly.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 7:17:59 AM

Malkinius

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Greetings Piyush....

quote:

ORIGINAL: Piyush

Greetings all.

I need your opinions and thought on this. I recently got into an arugement with someone who thought it was just a big joke that I am just 20, and looking for a kajira. I didnt think there was an age minimum. What do you guys think?

Cheers
Piyush.

Whether or not you are a big joke may have absolutely nothing to do with your age. There are enough Clue by Four targets twice your age who pop in here (or elsewhere), spout off about how wonderful and masterly they are...oh yeah....how Gorean too....who shouldn't be let in the same room with a woman who wants to be a slave, let alone have one. They have no clue what they are doing or they need to do. The moment you (or anyone) starts thinking..."Me dominant...me heap big Master....me heap big Gorean....so me know everything about kajira," have no chance of succeeding at being a Master. Is that you?

My question for anyone without experience in mastering a slave is how much work are you willing to put into learning how to do it well? How many man days/weeks/months/years of study, practice and mistakes are you willing to put into this? (One man day means 24 hours of your work/study of the subject.) How much have you put into it so far? If it is less time than you have spent hunting for a slave, you don't even qualify as a big joke....just a sad shake of the head at another loser who will probably end up hurting a few people before the stop or get a clue.

Be well....

Malkinius

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 7:52:19 AM

Piyush

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Tal RPutnamJr,

Thankyou for your views. I put a post here not to see if I were a vaild Gorean, but to see if a general Gorean population has a bias torwards age. As for the girl I was speaking about, I made it clear to her that my age is not something that prevents me from being a good Gorean person, moreover, I would care little if a girl has a problem with me or things one way compared to another.

To others,
Thankyou for your replies. I get the general idea that actions speak louder than words, and that is how things should be.

Cheers
Piyush.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 8:12:48 AM

viperess

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Greetings,

No Your being 20 does not mean You can not be a Master or Gorean. It does mean You may have a long road ahead of You as far as learning goes. i have met both younger and older Masters who had a wonderful understanding of Gor and then those who did not take the time to learn and only beat their chest saying i am.... whoever or whatever they chose to put there. Many say you can not be a good slave until you are x years old..well it all depends on Your level of maturity and understanding. You are in the right place to learn from some very wise and honorable Masters. Good luck on Your lifes journey.
Respectfully,

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 8:15:00 AM

Rapture

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Piyush,

First, you are going to run into and probably have run into the typical stereotype from many that just because you are a certain choronological age you either know everthing or you know nothing.

When I was 19 I wrote a umpteen page business plan with a complete budget for a computer superstore. Noone would take me seriously not because the aforementioned was not a good idea but because I was 19. Of course it was never started at least by me. (think Compusa goto www.compusa.com ). Then again, at 18, after an injury I really had to learn of myself, because I was relearning how to walk again.

You can be 50 or you can be 20, and be mature enough to do many things or not. Unfortunitly with many they think you must be a certain age to be a slave or to be a Man, and/or Master. This is a stereotype.

It surely is possible for you to do as you claim, the real question is not the possibility but the probability-the same seldom occurs.

I do not personally know you nor do I know your ability or abilities but keep moving forward nonetheless.

Rapture

quote:

ORIGINAL: Piyush

Greetings all.

I need your opinions and thought on this. I recently got into an arugement with someone who thought it was just a big joke that I am just 20, and looking for a kajira. I didnt think there was an age minimum. What do you guys think?

Cheers
Piyush.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 8:55:34 AM

MasterRobssara

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Greetings Master,

In my oh so humble opinion, age isn’t everything. And I do not say that because I am a younger girl. I have seen BS in this lifestyle that comes in all shapes and forms and ages. A 20 year old, honorable, sane man. That takes care and pride in his lifestyle choice and wishes to be the best man he can be, is a better choice for owning a slave that a 50 year old, who has none of that.

Smiles, just my little tid bit.

In hopes she is pleasing to the free, and her Master.
sara

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"Men force that sexual side out of a girl; you can’t help but add a little sway of the hips, a toss of your hair, or extra puck in your lips when a true man is around." - Me!

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 9:51:05 AM

crookedhalo

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Greetings Master,

I tried Gor for a brief period of time a few years ago .. The age thing was often thrown in my face as well. I think you will find that wherever you go and whatever you do ... The age card is a low blow to play but one that is played often.

I would tend to agree with what others have said .... And even in the Gor books ... It speaks of a man's honor, not his age. Really who you prove yourself to be is what will count far above and beyond your age.

How else does one aquire experience (that comes with age) unless they are actually out there living?

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 9:53:40 AM

bayboundse

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Age can be a factor in many things. But some people never learn nor mature with age anyway. I base my feelings towards someone based on their whole picture. Age is part of it but I have often met people in the younger 20's who act more mature than men and women I know twice their age. It comes down to each person.
As far as age goes...where does all the older Doms and slaves come from? They have to start some place! Being younger you have more to learn but learning can be fun as teaching can be fun also.

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RE: Age and Gor. - 3/16/2007 1:00:34 PM

RPutnamJr

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Tal Piyush,

Please don't think what I said as questioning you as to your being Gorean or not. Or whether you would make a good Gorean or not.

Being that you are young, people will constantly question the wisdom you have. They will also question how much stability you have. And to make things worst, they will not know how much self awareness you have of yourself and your ability to see it in others.

When does the student become and surpass the master? At age 25? 35? 45? Those are just numbers, but with age does come more wisdom, more stability, and yes more awareness of self and others.

In the meantime remain true to yourself, honor those that deserve such honor, and fight for what is right whether its popular or not. And as my grandmother once said...The day you stop learning is the day you start dying. When you ask, you gain knowledge. And with knowledge comes wisdom.

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