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RE: The problem with 'watching' to learn - 3/28/2007 8:34:51 AM

Stephann

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Morning puella,

So the moral of the story is, everyone needs to decide for themselves who they deem worthy of respect, and who they don't. It's not a question of Gor; after all, I can't very well take a whip to a woman who disrespects me through a message board (nor do I suspect I would invest the effort if I could.) That's the crux; men decide who is important enough to correct, teach, or instruct, and who is not.

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RE: The problem with 'watching' to learn - 3/28/2007 9:41:27 AM

Passion357

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Greetings, All,

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So the moral of the story is, everyone needs to decide for themselves who they deem worthy of respect, and who they don't.

See that's my thing. It's online. I am a "respect is earned" gal. Always have been. I just don't see *why* I should just respect someone because they are higher on the chain than me. But I also do not see the point in throwing a tantrum for everyone in the public to read/hear/see. Or just being out right *dis*respectful to someone who has *not* been to me recently.

Getting to the Gorean part: It's online. There is no planet Gor. Noone here can prove their caste, birth rights, etc, so to me, until they show what they are made of as best as they can being online, ( and *NO* I do not mean *type* what they are made of- I mean *show* by way of responses and reactions) they are just another person who is equal to me.

Once a person proves to be respect worthy, they get it.
For example: I respect Puella more then I do CuriouslySeeking.
(Forgive me if this insults either of you, such is not intended)
Why? Because I have "known" Puella longer that CuriouslySeeking. It's really that simple for me. Not that the latter has done anything wrong in my eyes, in fact she has *not*. I just have "known" the former longer.
(Known in perenthasis (sp?) because it's online-I do not actually know them personally.)

Now, being owned, if my *Master* instructs me to respect someone, such is done as best as I can. Meaning- there is no "respect switch" one can flip inside me that causes me to automatically respect someone. I can do my best to try. Thankfully that is all this one's Owner would expect of her. Luckily he and I think alike well enough that if he were to walk over here right now, click on a profile and state "Mate', you will respect this person." I probably would already

Does this make sense??

Well Wishes,
~Passion~

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RE: The problem with 'watching' to learn - 3/28/2007 10:02:01 AM

Stephann

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Good afternoon Passion,

Sure, it makes perfect sense. I don't believe I suggested everyone deserved automatic respect. However, if we have any desire to be accepted socially into a group, it requires courtesy; I don't equate courtesy with respect. One who is courteous will, in time, earn my respect. Having said that, if a slave is instructed to respect a man by her owner, than she has an obligation to behave as if she respects him. Perhaps in time she will learn it, perhaps not, but her first obligation is to attempt to be pleasing to her owner; thus obedience overrides any personal taste she may have in the matter. Understandably, we are speaking of ideals, and reality rarely will live up to those lofty expectations. That's why god gave men belts.

Have a fantabulous day,

Stephan

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RE: The problem with 'watching' to learn - 3/28/2007 11:52:25 AM

Passion357

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Greetings, Stephann,

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That's why god gave men belts.

Amen to that.

Too bad they can't be used online. But I think a well worded, obviously well thought out, VALID post will do the trick for a slave. No need to say "good" slave. If a slave- they're slave. If truly a slave- they'll take such a post to heart.

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RE: The problem with 'watching' to learn - 4/27/2007 5:32:17 PM

talender

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mnottertail~
my introduction to the world of Goreans, was by accident, was quiet shocked to see women so submissive before Men.
it was out of curiosity that this one turned back around and sat awhile, just watching.
if one listens they see many things, watching how people react to situations, shows true colours, the depth of people can be gaged within this ones eyes, by there reactions to issues that are placed before them.
it is amazing how much one can see, by just watching and listening. "and hopefully within it all a question might arise and be asked" and if ones lucky enough, "it very well may be answered"
a Master once said to this one. "its not what you ask tali" its how you ask it.
may we all learn from one another and grow.

smiles warmly at mnotterail, slides down next to you by the river bank and hands you a fishing line.

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