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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 6:42:41 AM

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She said I was to willful to be a slave.

The poor woman was probably swooning from the headiness of your presense and forgot to specifiy that she thinks that you're too willful to be her slave. There's a world of difference, there.

My Daddy has called me "the best little girl in the whole world." I've also told off people who've either snarked about our relationship or have tried to contradict Daddy's orders. Some might say that's not terribly submissive behavior, but one should also look at who I'm being submissive to when I do it.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 7:17:44 AM

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Greetings

I am a slave. The only thing that makes my slavery different from anyone else's, is Master. If Master was to call me a submissive, then the answer would still be the same.

I am anything that Master chooses to call me. What sets me apart from everyone else though, is Master himself.

What sets you apart from everyone else? Your owner does.

I wish you well

melissa

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 7:29:42 AM

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My own joke: You aren't a slave until you've been told you aren't a slave at least 5 times.

No one has told me yet I wasn't a slave!!! OMG! Does that mean I'm not a slave!

Quick, five people tell me I'm not one so I can be one!!

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 9:43:12 AM

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My own joke: You aren't a slave until you've been told you aren't a slave at least 5 times.

No one has told me yet I wasn't a slave!!! OMG! Does that mean I'm not a slave!

Quick, five people tell me I'm not one so I can be one!!

Don't feel bad, I've yet to be told I'm not a slave either *pout* *sigh*
Would it help if I said you weren't 5 times hahahahaha

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 9:52:28 AM

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Greetings..~smiles~

While this Domme may have your respect zindy..she does not trumph your Master. If her opinion is of importance to you..then maybe you should bring this up to your Master, and maybe get a more clear definition of what his reasonings are for calling you his slave rather than his submissive.

In places like this you can't get a clear definition of what a slave is or what a submissive is..the odd's of ever getting a clear one for the differences between a slave and submissive are off the scale.

I am defined as a slave because Master says so. For any other indication it might be because neither Master nor myself use the term submissive as a noun...so it's not a person but rather a attribute of a person that is always a natural tendency and not by choice. Another may be because I am not submissive but I submit to Masters will and am obedient to that with no no's or attempts to haggle or bargain, and if so there would be serious reprecussions on my part. Perhaps it is because it is a constant state inwhich I exist to him, and do not have ability to say..oh..don't think I want to be a slave today, and it be okay. No such animal. Lot of perhaps or maybes for personal reasons but still the only one that matters is what Master says I am..be it slave, frog, rock or doormat.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/26/2007 9:59:35 AM

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

My own joke: You aren't a slave until you've been told you aren't a slave at least 5 times.

No one has told me yet I wasn't a slave!!! OMG! Does that mean I'm not a slave!

Quick, five people tell me I'm not one so I can be one!!

Don't feel bad, I've yet to be told I'm not a slave either *pout* *sigh*
Would it help if I said you weren't 5 times hahahahaha

Yes it would bear and I'll do the same for you........ but to make it official, we will need to run around in a circle saying, "you're not a slave, you're not a slave, nyah nyah nyah!" 5 times.

Then we'll be official and we can breath a sigh of relief.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 6:22:24 AM

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I've been told I'm not submissive because I don't automatically call every self professed dom Sir. My response is that I am submissive, but thank God I'm not his submissive. I submit to one and only that one.

You aren't in a relationship with her so you aren't supposed to be obedient to her. And that's what she's missed sight of. People aren't robots, you could be a bottom to one person, a sub to another and a slave for someone else. It depends on the relationship and the connection between you two.

Plus great trust in someone doesn't happen immediately, it grows experientailly. As he shows that he handles things well, I get more trust in him. The more trust I give him, the more he can show me how trustworthy he is. And vice versa. We earn our trust in each other over time, it didn't all happen on the first meet.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 6:36:50 AM

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I once had a "Dom" tell me I wasn't a true submissive because I didn't drop everything I was doing to chat with him when he was the one who had IM'd me, without bothering to see if maybe I had anything else to do. I was probably a bit snotty to him, but I'm only snotty to people I think deserve it, and strangers who think I should drop everything to grovel before them definitely deserve it.
I think that the differences between a "slave" and a "sub" are gray lines that are slippery and hard to nail down. Especially because so much of it is about self-definition. If I say I'm a slave, and my Master says I'm a slave, than who is to say I'm not? (I don't say I am, except sometimes in bed).
This Domme may think that a "slave" is someone who lives in a 24/7 situation and obeys completely and totally, hence her thinking you're too willfull for that. And maybe that kind of situation wouldn't make you happy. But that doesn't mean you can't call yourself a slave if it feels right to you. Having it in your screen name might make people assume certain things about you, but even a slave isn't required to be submissive to everyone, only to the one who owns her.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 8:53:38 AM

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Thank you blushingflower, I do want to be his slave 24/7 but after so many years with my parents telling me I need to be independent it is hard to give it over all at once I have been with him for 3 years and it is still hard to surrender it all over to him so maybe right now I am a sub learning to be a slave. I don't really know it is confusing to me at times because sometimes I just want to do anything and everything I can to make him happy and other times I don't want to do anything. But the main reason I started this thread was because she said that if I was a slave I would have no control over my life and I would have no limits which I think that is wrong because I beleive there are some things people might try to have others do that they just simply couldn't do. But I was just wondering what everyones opinion is.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 8:56:54 AM

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Honestly, I think that even "no limits slaves" have limits, it's just that their limits are things that no one would ever ask them to do.
You have to move at the speed that is right for you and do what makes you happy, regardless of how other people do it.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 10:08:40 AM

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zindy i would not wory about it that is her opnion. If you ask 100 people you are likely to get 100 different answers of the difference between a slave and submissive. As long as you and you Master are happy what do the labels really mean anyway?

Matt's littleone

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 4:17:32 PM

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I agree with that littleone I was just wondering what the most common definition was or the ones that were closely related. But I know that her ideas and definitions are different than mine. I just don't understand why she is judging me when she isn't in my relationship she doesn't know what goes on with me and my Master day to day. It is just crazy really.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 4:43:20 PM

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ORIGINAL: zindyslave

I agree with that littleone I was just wondering what the most common definition was or the ones that were closely related. But I know that her ideas and definitions are different than mine. I just don't understand why she is judging me when she isn't in my relationship she doesn't know what goes on with me and my Master day to day. It is just crazy really.

Same reason some slaves want to chastise other slaves when they aren't being "slavely" enough.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 4:56:57 PM

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And what would that reason be Aquatic? I just think if she was my Domme she would prefer me to not have any limits and have no control over my life. That is how it seems to me anyway. She has also said alot of things like If I was your Domme....maybe she just wishes? lol

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 5:26:02 PM

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Slave = Property

How you Define and Build your relationship…...
Well, the possibilities are as infinite as there are stars in the sky.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 5:30:26 PM

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She's found a captive audience with which to feel superior and listen to herself talk.

That's not why they all do it, but that's the feeling I get in this case.

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RE: slave or submissive? - 3/27/2007 7:11:41 PM

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Well, LA that could be true because everyone in that room heeds what she says like it is the law. I don't but I have made friends in there which is why I go in there. But that is besides the point she does have alot of opinions that I don't agree with and that have been contradicted in other places so it is very possible that she feels superior in that room as she is always there never anywhere else and if you make her mad in the room then she redlines you and tells everyone else to do the same so basically it seems that way.

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